Why Such Snobbery Against State Universities on These Fora?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People from the Northeast are unusually dismissive of state schools. Places like Rutgers and the better SUNYs are regarded with near contempt even though they are perfectly good schools. In the rest of the country, people usually think quite highly of their local, big, state schools.

And DC is just an exceptionally snobby area.

Combine those two, and you have your explanation.

Agree with this. Also, because so many of the top schools are in the NE - they are more accessible to kids in the NE. And there seems to be more of a focus there on education and high achievement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, here’s the study. Page 4 has a list of the universities that have educated the most “high net worth individuals.” http://www.wealthx.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Wealth-X_UHNW-Alumni-Report_2017-2.pdf

Understand what you’re seeing here: even from the universities who graduated the very most of these ultra rich, we are only talking about 200 to 800 TOTAL people in the world. (Exception is Harvard with 1900.) The average university of this size graduates 2000+ people per year, every year. I don’t think it’s a very useful measurement to know what tiny percentage of them eventually become billionaires (or NBA players, or Olympic athletes, or lottery winners), because the odds are that none of us or our children will be in those numbers.

Finally somebody was diligent enough to post the study

Ultra high networth individuals are not billionaires. They have met worth of 30M out more.

You keep coming back to the smallv number. Ofvourse the number is small and is disproportionally made up of alums from private schools who go on to make the money themselves. But gap with state schools.

The discussion is which schools have a tech record of producing wealthy people in the .01% and the answer is not the state schools. End of story.

If you don't care about that, then go to where the plebes go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People from the Northeast are unusually dismissive of state schools. Places like Rutgers and the better SUNYs are regarded with near contempt even though they are perfectly good schools. In the rest of the country, people usually think quite highly of their local, big, state schools.

And DC is just an exceptionally snobby area.

Combine those two, and you have your explanation.

Agree with this. Also, because so many of the top schools are in the NE - they are more accessible to kids in the NE. And there seems to be more of a focus there on education and high achievement.

I disagree— people in NJ dislike Rutgers primarily because of the campus topography and notth educational value. Most NYS residents I know appreciate SUNY for the value gem that they are, especially Binghamton and Geneseo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People from the Northeast are unusually dismissive of state schools. Places like Rutgers and the better SUNYs are regarded with near contempt even though they are perfectly good schools. In the rest of the country, people usually think quite highly of their local, big, state schools.

And DC is just an exceptionally snobby area.

Combine those two, and you have your explanation.

Agree with this. Also, because so many of the top schools are in the NE - they are more accessible to kids in the NE. And there seems to be more of a focus there on education and high achievement.

I disagree— people in NJ dislike Rutgers primarily because of the campus topography and notth educational value. Most NYS residents I know appreciate SUNY for the value gem that they are, especially Binghamton and Geneseo.

People choose Rutgers for the same reason why they choose SUNY-X: money.

They certainly are not picking the SUNY-Binghamton campus over Rutgers. It’s a good school but by far the ugliest campus I’ve ever seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I attended one private university and one semi-public university back in the 1990s, and I received a good education at both and have moved on to have a fulfilling career(s) in my chosen fields of study. My daughter is now attending her second year at the University of Virginia. When we were applying to universities, I continually impressed on my daughter that she would have to make a very strong case for paying either private school tuition or OOS tuition given that we have very good in-state options in the Old Dominion. In the end, she did turn down Georgetown because, IMHO, it was not worth the extra $20K over UVA.

Its interesting to read the banter back and forth on these fora about what constitutes a "prestigious" university or college. You know what? Who cares? I'm not looking for bragging rights, but for the right fit for my child.

I am completely amused by the snobbery at state schools here. Somehow, some tiny LAC in backwoods Maine I've never heard of is a better choice than anything on offer at any of our fine public institutions. Two of the greatest things the United States ever did was create the system of Land Grant universities under the Morrill Act and open up the higher education system to the lower and middle classes through the GI Bill. This more or less democratized our educational institutions. The Ivies and other so-called "elite" schools play an oversized role in our higher education system while educating a very small percentage of our college students. As Robert Kaplan pointed out in his recent book "Earning the Rockies," the public institutions - the Indianas, the Iowas, etc. - play a much bigger and more important role in American educational and economic life. Much of the scientific, technological, and engineering research and training of America ton which postindustrial society depends takes place at our public institutions. They are worthy of our support and our respect.

Your H alone makes $300,000+ per year and you couldn't save for a college? And you still need to be a stay-at-home mom when your kids are grown?[/quote]

Where did OP discuss what her DH makes and whether or not s/he is a stay-at-home parent?

[Anonymous]

Let’s be honest.....nobody with half a brain aspires to go to a state school. They are an excellent option for in state students for whom money is an issue but the most qualified applicants are going to aspire to the best schools...,.and they aren’t public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest.....nobody with half a brain aspires to go to a state school. They are an excellent option for in state students for whom money is an issue but the most qualified applicants are going to aspire to the best schools...,.and they aren’t public.

Let’s be honest: you’re an elitist asshole.

[Anonymous]

Best Global Universities:

Berkeley - 4
Univ of Washington - 10 (tied with Yale)
Michigan - 17 (above Cornell and Penn)


Among others.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings

[Anonymous]

Oh and Brown is #92.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest.....nobody with half a brain aspires to go to a state school. They are an excellent option for in state students for whom money is an issue but the most qualified applicants are going to aspire to the best schools...,.and they aren’t public.

Let’s be honest: you’re an elitist asshole.

For stating the obvious? Fine, I hope your children are successful with their degrees from big state U but I pity them for having parents with such low aspirations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest.....nobody with half a brain aspires to go to a state school. They are an excellent option for in state students for whom money is an issue but the most qualified applicants are going to aspire to the best schools...,.and they aren’t public.

Let’s be honest: you’re an elitist asshole.

For stating the obvious? Fine, I hope your children are successful with their degrees from big state U but I pity them for having parents with such low aspirations.

Why do so many kids from elite boarding/private day schools go to state schools, do you think?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest.....nobody with half a brain aspires to go to a state school. They are an excellent option for in state students for whom money is an issue but the most qualified applicants are going to aspire to the best schools...,.and they aren’t public.

Let’s be honest: you’re an elitist asshole.

For stating the obvious? Fine, I hope your children are successful with their degrees from big state U but I pity them for having parents with such low aspirations.

I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Best Global Universities:

Berkeley - 4
Univ of Washington - 10 (tied with Yale)
Michigan - 17 (above Cornell and Penn)


Among others.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings

Yes, by all means go ahead and cherry pick your silly rankings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest.....nobody with half a brain aspires to go to a state school. They are an excellent option for in state students for whom money is an issue but the most qualified applicants are going to aspire to the best schools...,.and they aren’t public.

Let’s be honest: you’re an elitist asshole.

For stating the obvious? Fine, I hope your children are successful with their degrees from big state U but I pity them for having parents with such low aspirations.

Why do so many kids from elite boarding/private day schools go to state schools, do you think?

I’d assume it’s because they couldn’t get into a better school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest.....nobody with half a brain aspires to go to a state school. They are an excellent option for in state students for whom money is an issue but the most qualified applicants are going to aspire to the best schools...,.and they aren’t public.

Let’s be honest: you’re an elitist asshole.

For stating the obvious? Fine, I hope your children are successful with their degrees from big state U but I pity them for having parents with such low aspirations.

Why do so many kids from elite boarding/private day schools go to state schools, do you think?

I’d assume it’s because they couldn’t get into a better school.

Oh, and define “so many”. Last time I perused matriculation from Exeter and Andover there were very few public colleges represented.