Hollywood praising Tonya Harding

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Tonya Harding plead guilty to conspiring towards the attack on Nancy Kerrigan in 1994. Four men involved served time for the attack. Harding was forever banned from the international figure skating association because of her involvement. If you didn't live through it and see it, at least read wikipedia before posting ignorant facts here. There is nothing admirable about Tonya Harding to praise. I remember it all quite clearly. The "oh I was an abused child" claims (fabricated by Harding) came long after the attack, the broken laces story, the lying about the involvement in the attack, the banning from international skating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonya_Harding

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The general feeling about Nancy vs. what true skating fans know about Nancy is very different.

Let me be clear: Nancy Kerrigan in no way deserved to be beaten. She handled that physical and emotional pressure very well, and performed her best at the Olympics--that is laudable.

But here's why skating fans don't like Golden Nancy or Poor Nancy Deserved the Gold narrative:

1) She really didn't perform better than Oksana in either her short program or her long program; technically and artistically, she was not superior to Oksana in that competition, and she did not deserve gold.

2) Nancy's bitching leading up to and during the Olympic medal ceremony was not an anomaly born from the pressure of that particular competition, and the events leading up to it. Nancy was notorious for being rude to coaches, judges, even the little flower girls in the Kiss and Cry area--her 1993 World's, I think, was particularly bad. Bitching and moaning and being rude to her coaches--it was awful.

3) Nancy was known to be rude to sponsors. Hard to work with. Google her remarks she made into a hot mic while she was sitting, wearing her silver medal, on a float in a parade held in her honor at Disney world. She called that experience "corny" and "horrible" and she "wanted it to be over." Can you imagine behaving that way during a PAID appearance--an event held in your honor at Disney World, with little girls literally looking up to you?

4) Yes, she broke up a marriage. It's true. She knowingly entered into a relationship with a married man, which I find to be horribly immoral, no matter how one might justify it.

So of course none of that warrants Nancy getting hurt or being put in that whole, horrible position, dealing with so much. I'm glad she came through that, and was able to compete well.

But she is NOT the sweet little ice princess that many think she is/was.

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Anonymous wrote:Tonya Harding plead guilty to conspiring towards the attack on Nancy Kerrigan in 1994. Four men involved served time for the attack. Harding was forever banned from the international figure skating association because of her involvement. If you didn't live through it and see it, at least read wikipedia before posting ignorant facts here. There is nothing admirable about Tonya Harding to praise. I remember it all quite clearly. The "oh I was an abused child" claims (fabricated by Harding) came long after the attack, the broken laces story, the lying about the involvement in the attack, the banning from international skating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonya_Harding

Who's praising her? Seriously quote the poster who talked about how she was in the right.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

Yes, I agree that Oksana won fair and square. And I am aware that Oksana did not have an easy life going into the Olympics. She also had an adorable personality. But Nancy's performances were stunning and I can see how people were disappointed when she didn't win the gold. People were emotionally wrapped up and invested in Kerrigan. It was a crazy situation for sure.

Listen one poster here said something negative about Nancy and you spend three pages going on about how graceful and magical she was (and for the record I, classist poster, am not the poster that spoke negatively of her).

Nancy was an Olympic level skater who won the silver medal, she was obviously a good skater. She was not more or less exceptional or special than any of the other skaters we've talked about here. They all sacrificed their young adult lives to the rink and they are all two good routines away from the big show. Nancy didn't even have to do that, they chose to put her on the team without making her compete because of the scandal. I don't disagree with that decision but it was also a gift to not even have to make it through those two performances.

The tone of your posts, talking about her and what happened to her like it was some like. I mean it's kind of proving my points. Oksana and Tonya's entire lives were getting hit on the knee with a baseball bat but without that second part where they suddenly became America's sweethearts and put on the Olympic team without having to compete (for the record, I don't disagree with the team's decision but it was a gift). When i say that I'm not saying that Nancy deserved it or that Tonya wasn't guilty or was a good person. I'm simply pointing out that this perception of Nancy as 'stunning' 'beautiful' 'emotionally spent'...no one had that for Tonya before she went off the deep end, which is perhaps why she did what she did. And I can say that without exonerating Tonya of guilt. It says more about us and our culture than it says about Tonya or Nancy as individuals.

The decision to send Nancy Kerrigan to the Olympics in spite of her inability to compete in the Championship Competition was done so not out of pity but because Kerrigan was widely regarded to be the top female U.S. figure skater at the time with everyone else competing for a distant 2nd. That is why Harding's hoodlums very specifically targeted Kerrigan to "take out". They had intended to inflict a career ending broken knee cap. These are the folks that Harding was hanging around with.

And please don't compare Oksana with Tonya Harding. Oksana gave stunning, beautiful, emotional performances at the Olympics - she competed fair and square and she can wear that gold medal proudly. She earned it.

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I've been wondering - was Tonya really abused as a child? I assume she was, since that's what she says. But then here's an interview with her mother, who denies it. I wonder which one is telling the truth.
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Tonya-Harding-Abused-Child-44354774

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

Yes, I agree that Oksana won fair and square. And I am aware that Oksana did not have an easy life going into the Olympics. She also had an adorable personality. But Nancy's performances were stunning and I can see how people were disappointed when she didn't win the gold. People were emotionally wrapped up and invested in Kerrigan. It was a crazy situation for sure.

Listen one poster here said something negative about Nancy and you spend three pages going on about how graceful and magical she was (and for the record I, classist poster, am not the poster that spoke negatively of her).

Nancy was an Olympic level skater who won the silver medal, she was obviously a good skater. She was not more or less exceptional or special than any of the other skaters we've talked about here. They all sacrificed their young adult lives to the rink and they are all two good routines away from the big show. Nancy didn't even have to do that, they chose to put her on the team without making her compete because of the scandal. I don't disagree with that decision but it was also a gift to not even have to make it through those two performances.

The tone of your posts, talking about her and what happened to her like it was some like. I mean it's kind of proving my points. Oksana and Tonya's entire lives were getting hit on the knee with a baseball bat but without that second part where they suddenly became America's sweethearts and put on the Olympic team without having to compete (for the record, I don't disagree with the team's decision but it was a gift). When i say that I'm not saying that Nancy deserved it or that Tonya wasn't guilty or was a good person. I'm simply pointing out that this perception of Nancy as 'stunning' 'beautiful' 'emotionally spent'...no one had that for Tonya before she went off the deep end, which is perhaps why she did what she did. And I can say that without exonerating Tonya of guilt. It says more about us and our culture than it says about Tonya or Nancy as individuals.

The decision to send Nancy Kerrigan to the Olympics in spite of her inability to compete in the Championship Competition was done so not out of pity but because Kerrigan was widely regarded to be the top female U.S. figure skater at the time with everyone else competing for a distant 2nd. That is why Harding's hoodlums very specifically targeted Kerrigan to "take out". They had intended to inflict a career ending broken knee cap. These are the folks that Harding was hanging around with.

And please don't compare Oksana with Tonya Harding. Oksana gave stunning, beautiful, emotional performances at the Olympics - she competed fair and square and she can wear that gold medal proudly. She earned it.

Two sides of the same coin. I was reading something the other day and it had this metaphor, two brothers are raised by a drunken abusive father. One goes on to be a sober model father and member of the community and the other goes on to be an abusive unstable drunk. You ask them why they are the way they are and they both said, 'with a father like I had how could I have become anyone else?' People are different, they don't all have the personality to bounce back into a model citizen.

And every skater, even the best skaters, can fall and lose their place. That's the reason we hold our breath when we watch them jump. I don't disagree with what the Olympic committee did at all, but it was a gift.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been wondering - was Tonya really abused as a child? I assume she was, since that's what she says. But then here's an interview with her mother, who denies it. I wonder which one is telling the truth.
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Tonya-Harding-Abused-Child-44354774

Starting to feel guilty about painting a child abuse victim as Satan incarnate and rationalizing?

For the record, not saying Tonya was innocent/ good person/ Nancy deserved it.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

Yes, I agree that Oksana won fair and square. And I am aware that Oksana did not have an easy life going into the Olympics. She also had an adorable personality. But Nancy's performances were stunning and I can see how people were disappointed when she didn't win the gold. People were emotionally wrapped up and invested in Kerrigan. It was a crazy situation for sure.

Listen one poster here said something negative about Nancy and you spend three pages going on about how graceful and magical she was (and for the record I, classist poster, am not the poster that spoke negatively of her).

Nancy was an Olympic level skater who won the silver medal, she was obviously a good skater. She was not more or less exceptional or special than any of the other skaters we've talked about here. They all sacrificed their young adult lives to the rink and they are all two good routines away from the big show. Nancy didn't even have to do that, they chose to put her on the team without making her compete because of the scandal. I don't disagree with that decision but it was also a gift to not even have to make it through those two performances.

The tone of your posts, talking about her and what happened to her like it was some like. I mean it's kind of proving my points. Oksana and Tonya's entire lives were getting hit on the knee with a baseball bat but without that second part where they suddenly became America's sweethearts and put on the Olympic team without having to compete (for the record, I don't disagree with the team's decision but it was a gift). When i say that I'm not saying that Nancy deserved it or that Tonya wasn't guilty or was a good person. I'm simply pointing out that this perception of Nancy as 'stunning' 'beautiful' 'emotionally spent'...no one had that for Tonya before she went off the deep end, which is perhaps why she did what she did. And I can say that without exonerating Tonya of guilt. It says more about us and our culture than it says about Tonya or Nancy as individuals.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

Yes, I agree that Oksana won fair and square. And I am aware that Oksana did not have an easy life going into the Olympics. She also had an adorable personality. But Nancy's performances were stunning and I can see how people were disappointed when she didn't win the gold. People were emotionally wrapped up and invested in Kerrigan. It was a crazy situation for sure.

Listen one poster here said something negative about Nancy and you spend three pages going on about how graceful and magical she was (and for the record I, classist poster, am not the poster that spoke negatively of her).

Nancy was an Olympic level skater who won the silver medal, she was obviously a good skater. She was not more or less exceptional or special than any of the other skaters we've talked about here. They all sacrificed their young adult lives to the rink and they are all two good routines away from the big show. Nancy didn't even have to do that, they chose to put her on the team without making her compete because of the scandal. I don't disagree with that decision but it was also a gift to not even have to make it through those two performances.

The tone of your posts, talking about her and what happened to her like it was some like. I mean it's kind of proving my points. Oksana and Tonya's entire lives were getting hit on the knee with a baseball bat but without that second part where they suddenly became America's sweethearts and put on the Olympic team without having to compete (for the record, I don't disagree with the team's decision but it was a gift). When i say that I'm not saying that Nancy deserved it or that Tonya wasn't guilty or was a good person. I'm simply pointing out that this perception of Nancy as 'stunning' 'beautiful' 'emotionally spent'...no one had that for Tonya before she went off the deep end, which is perhaps why she did what she did. And I can say that without exonerating Tonya of guilt. It says more about us and our culture than it says about Tonya or Nancy as individuals.

The decision to send Nancy Kerrigan to the Olympics in spite of her inability to compete in the Championship Competition was done so not out of pity but because Kerrigan was widely regarded to be the top female U.S. figure skater at the time with everyone else competing for a distant 2nd. That is why Harding's hoodlums very specifically targeted Kerrigan to "take out". They had intended to inflict a career ending broken knee cap. These are the folks that Harding was hanging around with.

And please don't compare Oksana with Tonya Harding. Oksana gave stunning, beautiful, emotional performances at the Olympics - she competed fair and square and she can wear that gold medal proudly. She earned it.

Two sides of the same coin. I was reading something the other day and it had this metaphor, two brothers are raised by a drunken abusive father. One goes on to be a sober model father and member of the community and the other goes on to be an abusive unstable drunk. You ask them why they are the way they are and they both said, 'with a father like I had how could I have become anyone else?' People are different, they don't all have the personality to bounce back into a model citizen.

And every skater, even the best skaters, can fall and lose their place. That's the reason we hold our breath when we watch them jump. I don't disagree with what the Olympic committee did at all, but it was a gift.

Well Harding went to the Olympics and she didn't manage to come anywhere near earning a medal - no real surprise there. Kerrigan and Oksana did earn medals - also no surprise. There is that.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been wondering - was Tonya really abused as a child? I assume she was, since that's what she says. But then here's an interview with her mother, who denies it. I wonder which one is telling the truth.
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Tonya-Harding-Abused-Child-44354774

Starting to feel guilty about painting a child abuse victim as Satan incarnate and rationalizing?

For the record, not saying Tonya was innocent/ good person/ Nancy deserved it.

Tonya was a grown azz divorcee when this happened. When will she stop blaming everyone else - her mother, her ex husband, her body guard, some random goon, Nancy Kerrigan herself - for her own conduct?

Good grief, she got arrested for assaulting one of her husbands.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

Yes, I agree that Oksana won fair and square. And I am aware that Oksana did not have an easy life going into the Olympics. She also had an adorable personality. But Nancy's performances were stunning and I can see how people were disappointed when she didn't win the gold. People were emotionally wrapped up and invested in Kerrigan. It was a crazy situation for sure.

Listen one poster here said something negative about Nancy and you spend three pages going on about how graceful and magical she was (and for the record I, classist poster, am not the poster that spoke negatively of her).

Nancy was an Olympic level skater who won the silver medal, she was obviously a good skater. She was not more or less exceptional or special than any of the other skaters we've talked about here. They all sacrificed their young adult lives to the rink and they are all two good routines away from the big show. Nancy didn't even have to do that, they chose to put her on the team without making her compete because of the scandal. I don't disagree with that decision but it was also a gift to not even have to make it through those two performances.

The tone of your posts, talking about her and what happened to her like it was some like. I mean it's kind of proving my points. Oksana and Tonya's entire lives were getting hit on the knee with a baseball bat but without that second part where they suddenly became America's sweethearts and put on the Olympic team without having to compete (for the record, I don't disagree with the team's decision but it was a gift). When i say that I'm not saying that Nancy deserved it or that Tonya wasn't guilty or was a good person. I'm simply pointing out that this perception of Nancy as 'stunning' 'beautiful' 'emotionally spent'...no one had that for Tonya before she went off the deep end, which is perhaps why she did what she did. And I can say that without exonerating Tonya of guilt. It says more about us and our culture than it says about Tonya or Nancy as individuals.

The decision to send Nancy Kerrigan to the Olympics in spite of her inability to compete in the Championship Competition was done so not out of pity but because Kerrigan was widely regarded to be the top female U.S. figure skater at the time with everyone else competing for a distant 2nd. That is why Harding's hoodlums very specifically targeted Kerrigan to "take out". They had intended to inflict a career ending broken knee cap. These are the folks that Harding was hanging around with.

And please don't compare Oksana with Tonya Harding. Oksana gave stunning, beautiful, emotional performances at the Olympics - she competed fair and square and she can wear that gold medal proudly. She earned it.

Two sides of the same coin. I was reading something the other day and it had this metaphor, two brothers are raised by a drunken abusive father. One goes on to be a sober model father and member of the community and the other goes on to be an abusive unstable drunk. You ask them why they are the way they are and they both said, 'with a father like I had how could I have become anyone else?' People are different, they don't all have the personality to bounce back into a model citizen.

And every skater, even the best skaters, can fall and lose their place. That's the reason we hold our breath when we watch them jump. I don't disagree with what the Olympic committee did at all, but it was a gift.

You look stupid when you keep calling it a “gift.” The USFSA didn't name Kerrigan to the Olympic team because they felt sorry for her and wanted to give her a consolation prize. They named her to the team because they wanted to win an Olympic medal in ladies figure skating, and they knew that a healthy Kerrigan was their best shot. Same reason that Adam Rippon is going to South Korea and Ross Miner is sitting at home in Boston.

Stop embarrassing yourself, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Oksana didn't fare too well, either. She moved to this country right after the Olympics and went professional, earning craploads of money from skating in ice shows; at the same time, she started drinking excessively and, I believe, even got arrested a couple of times (either DUI or domestic fighting or something of that matter). I vaguely remember she got involved with some mafia-type guy. Anyway, she must be in her forties now, supposedly in AA, but I don't know what she does for a living, though.

On the topic of Harding vs Kerrigan, I think Harding's main problem was looking like a redneck on ice, no matter her jumping skills.. Kerrigan was no princess, either, make no mistake about it, but whenever Kerrigan took the ice, the audience and judges saw a somewhat refined performance. Not the case with Harding at any point in her career.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know which skater would have gone to the Olympics if Tonya Harding had been booted off the team right away?

Because that is the person who really got cheated. I wish that they had gotten the opportunity to skate in the Olympics in place of Harding that year.

Elaine Zayak finished 4th at the 1994 U.S. Championships and was named an alternate for the Olympic Games.

Elaine Zayak was robbed then. Where is her movie?

Elaine Zayak wasn't the alternate nor was she the one who would have gone if Tonya had been banned.The US was only given 2 female figuring skating spots in that year's Olympics & , despite her not being able to finish the competition, the committee (rightly, imo) chose to give one to NK. The other went to TH (the first place to finisher) & would have gone to Michelle Kwan (the second place finisher who was ultimately named the alternate) had TH not been allowed to compete. So MK was the one who was "robbed" that year.

Of course, nowadays, MK's age at the time (13) would disqualify her, too, since Olympians must be at least 16 by the end of that calender year. That's pretty much irrelevant, though, since even if both MK & TH were disqualified, Elaine Zyak still wouldn't have been next in line for the second spot on the team -- it would have gone to Nicole Bobek, the third place finisher.

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Anonymous wrote:Tonya Harding plead guilty to conspiring towards the attack on Nancy Kerrigan in 1994. Four men involved served time for the attack. Harding was forever banned from the international figure skating association because of her involvement. If you didn't live through it and see it, at least read wikipedia before posting ignorant facts here. There is nothing admirable about Tonya Harding to praise. I remember it all quite clearly. The "oh I was an abused child" claims (fabricated by Harding) came long after the attack, the broken laces story, the lying about the involvement in the attack, the banning from international skating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonya_Harding

Who's praising her? Seriously quote the poster who talked about how she was in the right.

uh, read the OP post and first page? Hollywood?

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Anonymous wrote:Tonya Harding plead guilty to conspiring towards the attack on Nancy Kerrigan in 1994. Four men involved served time for the attack. Harding was forever banned from the international figure skating association because of her involvement. If you didn't live through it and see it, at least read wikipedia before posting ignorant facts here. There is nothing admirable about Tonya Harding to praise. I remember it all quite clearly. The "oh I was an abused child" claims (fabricated by Harding) came long after the attack, the broken laces story, the lying about the involvement in the attack, the banning from international skating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonya_Harding

Who's praising her? Seriously quote the poster who talked about how she was in the right.

uh, read the OP post and first page? Hollywood?

I'm not sure it's praise exactly but ok. My bad I thought you were coming into the discussion going on in tyre comments.