Hollywood praising Tonya Harding

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Anonymous wrote:I have to say I agree that it's disconcerting that Tonya Harding had the movie named after her when it's Nancy who had her dream demolished. Did anybody invite her?

No she didn't. She went to the Olympics. The fact that she didn't get the gold was due to someone else beating her, outpeforming her. Nothing else. She actually wasn't a particularly great person either, if you'll recall. (I'm assuming you're old enough to remember her behaviour post-medal). She also had an affair with and then married her manager.

1. How do you know the injury didn't affect her performance?

2. Are you serious? How about someone commits a violent act of injury on you which significantly and publicly affects your career, and X number of years later they make a movie about, named after, and glamorizing one of your attackers?

You effing idiot.

+1,000,000

+100
I can't even believe someone would make Nancy Kerrigan out to be the villain in all of this. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:I have to say I agree that it's disconcerting that Tonya Harding had the movie named after her when it's Nancy who had her dream demolished. Did anybody invite her?

No she didn't. She went to the Olympics. The fact that she didn't get the gold was due to someone else beating her, outpeforming her. Nothing else. She actually wasn't a particularly great person either, if you'll recall. (I'm assuming you're old enough to remember her behaviour post-medal). She also had an affair with and then married her manager.

1. How do you know the injury didn't affect her performance?

2. Are you serious? How about someone commits a violent act of injury on you which significantly and publicly affects your career, and X number of years later they make a movie about, named after, and glamorizing one of your attackers?

You effing idiot.

+100
I can't even believe someone would make Nancy Kerrigan out to be the villain in all of this. Wow.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know which skater would have gone to the Olympics if Tonya Harding had been booted off the team right away?

Because that is the person who really got cheated. I wish that they had gotten the opportunity to skate in the Olympics in place of Harding that year.

Kwan. Just think if she had gotten her first-Olympics nerves and pressure out of the way before Nagano.

I thought (without looking it up) that it would have been Kwan.

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Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

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And as far as who Kerrigan married goes, they have been married a long time and they have been through a lot together. I think they truly love and belong with each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

Ok Mr. Kerrigan lol

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

Ok Mr. Kerrigan lol

Umm, no. Just someone who saw this whole thing unfold on t.v. Let's just say that I have a great deal of empathy for what Nancy Kerrigan went through. I understand completely how draining that whole sordid nightmare must have been for her. Some people on this thread make it sound like Nancy somehow really lucked out by getting attacked and that is a really unfortunate opinion.

Kerrigan was a gifted and determined athlete who did not deserve what happened to her. She has been married to her husband since '95 (22 years) and they have 3 children together. It is her first marriage and his 3rd. I hope they continue to do very well together. She's earned a nice life.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

Yes, I agree that Oksana won fair and square. And I am aware that Oksana did not have an easy life going into the Olympics. She also had an adorable personality. But Nancy's performances were stunning and I can see how people were disappointed when she didn't win the gold. People were emotionally wrapped up and invested in Kerrigan. It was a crazy situation for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

Ok Mr. Kerrigan lol

Umm, no. Just someone who saw this whole thing unfold on t.v. Let's just say that I have a great deal of empathy for what Nancy Kerrigan went through. I understand completely how draining that whole sordid nightmare must have been for her. Some people on this thread make it sound like Nancy somehow really lucked out by getting attacked and that is a really unfortunate opinion.

Kerrigan was a gifted and determined athlete who did not deserve what happened to her. She has been married to her husband since '95 (22 years) and they have 3 children together. It is her first marriage and his 3rd. I hope they continue to do very well together. She's earned a nice life.

And she had plenty of heartbreak between baby one and babies 2 and 3. She deserves peace.

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

What is with all this “never saw Oksana coming” business? Baiul was the reigning World Champion coming into the Olympics!

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Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

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I was really rooting for Kerrigan to win the gold - until I got a load of little Oksana and her wondrous Swan Lake performance. Unbelievable. I knew when I was watching that that she absolutely deserved the gold. And she did have a heartbreaking story too. But when it comes right down to it - it's not about these backstories. It's about who delivers the best performance. And Oksana absolutely did.

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Anonymous wrote:Not one of you remembers Tonya's lousy start of her routine and then her fake claim that her "laces broke"? Or Tonya's involvement in "America's Dumbest ___"? This is not a person to praise.

I remember the laces incident and I was shocked/disgusted that they let her just restart her routine again as if nothing had happened. That pissed me off. I'm like all these other girls worked their asses off to perfection down to the most minute detail and this cow can't even tie her skates but gets a free do-over. SMH

+1000. It was pathetic. The judges should not have allowed it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other PP here. I don't know who is faulting Kerrigan, but I do think that she made herself rather unlikable with her lack of personality, and her facial expression (lack of sportsmanship) when she won silver, and marrying her married coach. I don't think anyone ever expected Kerrigan to get gold (if I recall correctly). I definitely did not see Oksana coming, at the time. She was just so fun, young, spunky, talented and full of likable personality. LOVE Oksana, don't know what she has done since (I haven't really looked any of these people up). PP here. Team Oksana, though!

Kerrigan skated beautifully during the Olympics. She was every much a contender for the gold as Oksana was.

Kerrigan had really been put through it with the attack, her recovery from her injury, the press and just the plain ugliness of what had happened to her. It was A LOT for her to go through on top of the already intense training that all Olympic athletes go through to be the best in their sport.

Kerrigan really thought that she had earned the gold medal. A lot of people did. And it was natural to want to see such a harrowing ordeal end with a gold medal. I think that she was just plain emotionally spent when she stood on the podium and was honored with her silver.

In the first jumping pass of her long program, she did a double loop instead of a triple loop. She didn't fall, had a lovely overall presence and programs, and of course her signature spiral. But she didn't have as many triple jumps, as complex spins, or as much overall speed as Oksana. She didn't deserve the gold that night, pure and simple. Yes, Nancy went through a lot. But so did Oksana--she was literally an orphan hanging out at an ice rink in the Ukraine.

Yes, I agree that Oksana won fair and square. And I am aware that Oksana did not have an easy life going into the Olympics. She also had an adorable personality. But Nancy's performances were stunning and I can see how people were disappointed when she didn't win the gold. People were emotionally wrapped up and invested in Kerrigan. It was a crazy situation for sure.

Listen one poster here said something negative about Nancy and you spend three pages going on about how graceful and magical she was (and for the record I, classist poster, am not the poster that spoke negatively of her).

Nancy was an Olympic level skater who won the silver medal, she was obviously a good skater. She was not more or less exceptional or special than any of the other skaters we've talked about here. They all sacrificed their young adult lives to the rink and they are all two good routines away from the big show. Nancy didn't even have to do that, they chose to put her on the team without making her compete because of the scandal. I don't disagree with that decision but it was also a gift to not even have to make it through those two performances.

The tone of your posts, talking about her and what happened to her like it was some like. I mean it's kind of proving my points. Oksana and Tonya's entire lives were getting hit on the knee with a baseball bat but without that second part where they suddenly became America's sweethearts and put on the Olympic team without having to compete (for the record, I don't disagree with the team's decision but it was a gift). When i say that I'm not saying that Nancy deserved it or that Tonya wasn't guilty or was a good person. I'm simply pointing out that this perception of Nancy as 'stunning' 'beautiful' 'emotionally spent'...no one had that for Tonya before she went off the deep end, which is perhaps why she did what she did. And I can say that without exonerating Tonya of guilt. It says more about us and our culture than it says about Tonya or Nancy as individuals.