Is being bi-gender a "thing" at your kid's school?

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If you are talking about 11, 12, 13 year olds who still haven't figured out whether they are boys or girls, and you can't see what a problem that is, then you have your head completely in the sand. Most of us figure that out by the age of 2 or so.

Most of us do. And some of us don't. Different people are different people who have different experiences. (DCUM always has troubles with this concept.)

More to the point, how does it harm you? Having to acknowledge that there are different people who have different experiences does not constitute harm. Neither does having to acknowledge that different people understand the world differently. And, really, if somebody wants you to use a particular pronoun/name for them, but you want to use a different one, then there's nothing stopping you from doing that. Including my opinion that it's rude.

It's harming me greatly because it is harming society. More to the point it's harming my kids to have to put up with this BS at school, when they should be learning about, you know, physics or chemistry. I agree that it is harming most of all the poor kids who do not have parents with the sense to see the danger on this.

You are not convincing. It's not harming society. Rather, society previously was harming people who identify this way.

Why don't you give Joe Straus a call and solicit his views on this. You'll like him -- he's the Republican Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives.

This isn't about you and your backwards, twisted and invalid views, OP. Either get with the program or get out of my country. You're not welcome here anymore.

[Anonymous]

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What I don't get about this whole gender binary thing is why is how masculine or feminine you feel worthy of giving yourself some official label? In the case of transgenders, they actually feel as if they are born in the wrong body and are trying to be recognized as the sex of what they feel they were meant to be. These gender fluid kids don't feel the need to become the opposite sex. They are just kids who don't feel overwhelming masculine or feminine. Well goody for them. They are still either boys or girls, why do they have to try to get official recognition about how masuline or feminine they consider themselves? In the past tomboys did not see any reason to give themselves a special gender category.

You're basically asking, "Why do people do things that I wouldn't want to do?" Answer: because they're different people who aren't you.

I, personally, don't understand how anybody can be a fan of any particular sports team. I mean, what's this "we won" and "we lost" stuff? You weren't playing. However, I acknowledge that there are plenty of people who aren't me who do feel that way. In fact, who feel that way very strongly.

Not np, but I agree. There are a lot of f d up people I do not agree with and those that follow a sexless genderless society view are some of them.

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Anonymous wrote:There are only 3 genders...male, female, and mental illness.

If you want to live your life like that, then you should live your life like that. However, I hope that you will be polite to everybody. Also, please be aware that, if you are rude to people for being their gender wrong (according to you), there are plenty of people who will have a low opinion of you as a consequence.

Only people who haven't taken a biology class. There are only men and women. Men have a penis and women have a vagina. PERIOD

The fact that so- called grown, mature adults have to be reminded of this is staggering.

Do you deny that intersex people exist?

What about people who had penises, but lost them due to medical incidents or accidents, even combat? They don't have vaginas? Isn't what's in your head important?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are talking about 11, 12, 13 year olds who still haven't figured out whether they are boys or girls, and you can't see what a problem that is, then you have your head completely in the sand. Most of us figure that out by the age of 2 or so.

Most of us do. And some of us don't. Different people are different people who have different experiences. (DCUM always has troubles with this concept.)

More to the point, how does it harm you? Having to acknowledge that there are different people who have different experiences does not constitute harm. Neither does having to acknowledge that different people understand the world differently. And, really, if somebody wants you to use a particular pronoun/name for them, but you want to use a different one, then there's nothing stopping you from doing that. Including my opinion that it's rude.

It's harming me greatly because it is harming society. More to the point it's harming my kids to have to put up with this BS at school, when they should be learning about, you know, physics or chemistry. I agree that it is harming most of all the poor kids who do not have parents with the sense to see the danger on this.

No, it doesn't work that way. Or, if it does, then I could equally well say that your opinions personally harm me, because they harm society. And then what?

Meanwhile, if you don't want your children to encounter fellow students who have beliefs about gender you don't share, then I suggest you enroll your children in a private school that reflects your beliefs about gender, or homeschool your children.

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Well, I have a gender fluid dd, and we actually discuss her feelings and thoughts as well as the happenings in her friend groups, so I have a decent handle on the situation. You, on the other hand, heard from a friend who saw some story on Facebook or wherever about how the others are ruining their kids' lives by existing. Yeah, you know so much more about it.

Yes, sexual preference and gender identity are two separate issues. It's a very ignorant person who says they aren't. Gender is a social construct. Boy toys and girl toys, pink and blue, feminine and masculine... People created those things. There's no one size fits all. Two sizes aren't even enough. I'm glad the next generation is coming to terms with people being accepted for who they are. It's not really any different from tomboys in the past. Of course boys might not have had such an easy time if they didn't fit the stereotypical male roles, but I'm glad that the kids who don't/can't conform can have a little more acceptance these days. It's still not easy. There are still people like op, and possibly op's kids who see it as their job to put these kids down, and make them feel bad about themselves, but I'm glad more people are being tolerant.

No you don't. You have a child who is extremely mixed up and needs your guidance, not your weak giving in.

I am going to assume that that PP knows more about their child than you know about their child.

What's very sad for this child is that I obviously do.

[Anonymous]

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Not np, but I agree. There are a lot of f d up people I do not agree with and those that follow a sexless genderless society view are some of them.

I haven't encountered anybody who says that there is no such thing as sex (biological) or gender (cultural). Could you provide some examples, please?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are talking about 11, 12, 13 year olds who still haven't figured out whether they are boys or girls, and you can't see what a problem that is, then you have your head completely in the sand. Most of us figure that out by the age of 2 or so.

Most of us do. And some of us don't. Different people are different people who have different experiences. (DCUM always has troubles with this concept.)

More to the point, how does it harm you? Having to acknowledge that there are different people who have different experiences does not constitute harm. Neither does having to acknowledge that different people understand the world differently. And, really, if somebody wants you to use a particular pronoun/name for them, but you want to use a different one, then there's nothing stopping you from doing that. Including my opinion that it's rude.

It's harming me greatly because it is harming society. More to the point it's harming my kids to have to put up with this BS at school, when they should be learning about, you know, physics or chemistry. I agree that it is harming most of all the poor kids who do not have parents with the sense to see the danger on this.

No, it doesn't work that way. Or, if it does, then I could equally well say that your opinions personally harm me, because they harm society. And then what?

Meanwhile, if you don't want your children to encounter fellow students who have beliefs about gender you don't share, then I suggest you enroll your children in a private school that reflects your beliefs about gender, or homeschool your children.

Or perhaps you could keep your liberal views in your own home and among your own social groups and not bring it into the public schools that my tax dollars pay for, you DON'T own the public school system an neither do your personal views.

[Anonymous]

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Not np, but I agree. There are a lot of f d up people I do not agree with and those that follow a sexless genderless society view are some of them.

I haven't encountered anybody who says that there is no such thing as sex (biological) or gender (cultural). Could you provide some examples, please?

I could, but I will not. There are girls in boys, it's that simple. I will not allow you or anyone else to complicate that matter with my children. If you are a boy and you want to be a girl, go take care of that, but keep your bullshit liberal crap out of my child's school. Thank God for Betsy Devos, may the curriculum change quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are talking about 11, 12, 13 year olds who still haven't figured out whether they are boys or girls, and you can't see what a problem that is, then you have your head completely in the sand. Most of us figure that out by the age of 2 or so.

Most of us do. And some of us don't. Different people are different people who have different experiences. (DCUM always has troubles with this concept.)

More to the point, how does it harm you? Having to acknowledge that there are different people who have different experiences does not constitute harm. Neither does having to acknowledge that different people understand the world differently. And, really, if somebody wants you to use a particular pronoun/name for them, but you want to use a different one, then there's nothing stopping you from doing that. Including my opinion that it's rude.

It's harming me greatly because it is harming society. More to the point it's harming my kids to have to put up with this BS at school, when they should be learning about, you know, physics or chemistry. I agree that it is harming most of all the poor kids who do not have parents with the sense to see the danger on this.

No, it doesn't work that way. Or, if it does, then I could equally well say that your opinions personally harm me, because they harm society. And then what?

Meanwhile, if you don't want your children to encounter fellow students who have beliefs about gender you don't share, then I suggest you enroll your children in a private school that reflects your beliefs about gender, or homeschool your children.

Or perhaps you could keep your liberal views in your own home and among your own social groups and not bring it into the public schools that my tax dollars pay for, you DON'T own the public school system an neither do your personal views.

Uh, no. There are more of us than there are of you. Go back to your cave or join ISIS or the Taliban or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well, I have a gender fluid dd, and we actually discuss her feelings and thoughts as well as the happenings in her friend groups, so I have a decent handle on the situation. You, on the other hand, heard from a friend who saw some story on Facebook or wherever about how the others are ruining their kids' lives by existing. Yeah, you know so much more about it.

Yes, sexual preference and gender identity are two separate issues. It's a very ignorant person who says they aren't. Gender is a social construct. Boy toys and girl toys, pink and blue, feminine and masculine... People created those things. There's no one size fits all. Two sizes aren't even enough. I'm glad the next generation is coming to terms with people being accepted for who they are. It's not really any different from tomboys in the past. Of course boys might not have had such an easy time if they didn't fit the stereotypical male roles, but I'm glad that the kids who don't/can't conform can have a little more acceptance these days. It's still not easy. There are still people like op, and possibly op's kids who see it as their job to put these kids down, and make them feel bad about themselves, but I'm glad more people are being tolerant.

No you don't. You have a child who is extremely mixed up and needs your guidance, not your weak giving in.

I am going to assume that that PP knows more about their child than you know about their child.

What's very sad for this child is that I obviously do.

Don't you have something better to do at 9:30 am than hang out on the Internet claiming you know total strangers' children better than they do? I'm waiting for some people to get back to me. What's your excuse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are talking about 11, 12, 13 year olds who still haven't figured out whether they are boys or girls, and you can't see what a problem that is, then you have your head completely in the sand. Most of us figure that out by the age of 2 or so.

Most of us do. And some of us don't. Different people are different people who have different experiences. (DCUM always has troubles with this concept.)

More to the point, how does it harm you? Having to acknowledge that there are different people who have different experiences does not constitute harm. Neither does having to acknowledge that different people understand the world differently. And, really, if somebody wants you to use a particular pronoun/name for them, but you want to use a different one, then there's nothing stopping you from doing that. Including my opinion that it's rude.

It's harming me greatly because it is harming society. More to the point it's harming my kids to have to put up with this BS at school, when they should be learning about, you know, physics or chemistry. I agree that it is harming most of all the poor kids who do not have parents with the sense to see the danger on this.

No, it doesn't work that way. Or, if it does, then I could equally well say that your opinions personally harm me, because they harm society. And then what?

Meanwhile, if you don't want your children to encounter fellow students who have beliefs about gender you don't share, then I suggest you enroll your children in a private school that reflects your beliefs about gender, or homeschool your children.

Or perhaps you could keep your liberal views in your own home and among your own social groups and not bring it into the public schools that my tax dollars pay for, you DON'T own the public school system an neither do your personal views.

Uh, no. There are more of us than there are of you. Go back to your cave or join ISIS or the Taliban or something.

Uh, no there are not as evidenced by the fight back in this country in the last election. Uh, your side lost, got it? Deal with the fact that your world view is f d up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, it doesn't work that way. Or, if it does, then I could equally well say that your opinions personally harm me, because they harm society. And then what?

Meanwhile, if you don't want your children to encounter fellow students who have beliefs about gender you don't share, then I suggest you enroll your children in a private school that reflects your beliefs about gender, or homeschool your children.

Or perhaps you could keep your liberal views in your own home and among your own social groups and not bring it into the public schools that my tax dollars pay for, you DON'T own the public school system an neither do your personal views.

Indeed I don't own the public school system. And neither do you. My kids go to public school with lots of kids who have views, or whose parents have views, that I personally disagree with. Because it's the public school system. It's for everybody. If you don't like that, then it's up to you to keep your kids out. It's not up to me to keep my kids out of public school so that your kids don't encounter kids with different views.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not np, but I agree. There are a lot of f d up people I do not agree with and those that follow a sexless genderless society view are some of them.

I haven't encountered anybody who says that there is no such thing as sex (biological) or gender (cultural). Could you provide some examples, please?

I could, but I will not. There are girls in boys, it's that simple. I will not allow you or anyone else to complicate that matter with my children. If you are a boy and you want to be a girl, go take care of that, but keep your bullshit liberal crap out of my child's school. Thank God for Betsy Devos, may the curriculum change quickly.

Huh.

Nobody is stopping you from believing that girls are girls and boys are boys. And nobody is stopping you from telling your children that.

[Anonymous]

This really sounds like a certain FCPS school board member posting.

[Anonymous]

Troll. No one in this day and age willingly goes by Roberta.