What screams *INSECURE FRUMP* to you?

[Anonymous]

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HAHAHA- this thread has been hijacked by the J. Crew lovers. Is that not the epitome of FRUMP? LOL.

Jcrew on a beautiful woman is anything but frumpy.

J. Crew isn't the most feminine store. Lack of femininity denotes frump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keenes
Frizzy unkept hair w lots of gray
Non manicured nails ( not necessarily polished)
Sweatshirt from some beach town

You just described my MIL.

[Anonymous]

Having read through this entire post I can see plainly now that I am most definitely a frump. And furthermore, that I in fact enjoy and intend to continue on in my frumptitude. Who the fuck cares? I have 3 kids, a loving husband, and I'm 45. I really don't care that much. I want to wear what I want to wear. I'm old enough to have lived through the early days of Prince and Madonna, Pretty in Pink, Julia Robert's first film, grunge, the rebirth of 80's dance/rock, Bollywood, ....and at this point, it's really all been done. Who the hell cares enough to publicly judge another woman for not valuing her appearance enough to really put serious coins into it????? Clothes are fun, but they're just clothes. At least now I am aware that when I wear capris that I am hideously unattractive. Ha! The irony is that I actually think I look good in capris!!! So the joke's on me. Seriously, as women age, we really don't need to continue to be "on trend" unless we're in the fashion industry, right???? Isn't that the beauty of aging??? Don't we ever get to graduate from high school or are we really consigned to a lifetime of servitude to arbitrary rules of fashion and "on tend" bs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Really, fisherman sweaters are frumpy? I think they are cute casual. Check out this girl. You think this is frumpy?

Adorable on her. Frumpy on a 47 mother of 2.

Unless that mother has the same build as the model (spoiler: I don't)

Most women can't pull this off.

[Anonymous]

How about a *SECURE FRUMP*? As in an *IDGAF frump*?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

HAHAHA- this thread has been hijacked by the J. Crew lovers. Is that not the epitome of FRUMP? LOL.

Jcrew on a beautiful woman is anything but frumpy.

J. Crew isn't the most feminine store. Lack of femininity denotes frump.

Well, they sell a lot of basics -- denim, t-shirts, blazers, suits, etc., to be mixed and matched. But there's plenty of "feminine" clothing. Unless you think one can only be feminine in Lilly Pulitzer.


https://www.jcrew.com/womens_feature/NewArrivals/topsandblouses/PRDOVR~F4880/F4880.jsp

https://www.jcrew.com/womens_feature/NewArrivals/dresses/PRDOVR~F4012/F4012.jsp?color_name=fiery-sunset

https://www.jcrew.com/womens_feature/NewArrivals/skirts/PRDOVR~F4967/F4967.jsp

https://www.jcrew.com/womens_feature/NewArrivals/shoes/PRDOVR~F4871/F4871.jsp?color_name=heron-grey

https://www.jcrew.com/womens_feature/NewArrivals/shoes/PRDOVR~F5530/F5530.jsp

[Anonymous]

No, but you don't have to look like this J. Crew model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having read through this entire post I can see plainly now that I am most definitely a frump. And furthermore, that I in fact enjoy and intend to continue on in my frumptitude. Who the fuck cares? I have 3 kids, a loving husband, and I'm 45. I really don't care that much. I want to wear what I want to wear. I'm old enough to have lived through the early days of Prince and Madonna, Pretty in Pink, Julia Robert's first film, grunge, the rebirth of 80's dance/rock, Bollywood, ....and at this point, it's really all been done. Who the hell cares enough to publicly judge another woman for not valuing her appearance enough to really put serious coins into it????? Clothes are fun, but they're just clothes. At least now I am aware that when I wear capris that I am hideously unattractive. Ha! The irony is that I actually think I look good in capris!!! So the joke's on me. Seriously, as women age, we really don't need to continue to be "on trend" unless we're in the fashion industry, right???? Isn't that the beauty of aging??? Don't we ever get to graduate from high school or are we really consigned to a lifetime of servitude to arbitrary rules of fashion and "on tend" bs?

Dear Capri Pants,
This isn't about the fashion industry or trends. It's about self-awareness and self-respect, not money or labels. Frumpy is having so little self awareness that you have no idea what looks good on you or flatters what you've got. You certainly don't seem to care about how you look. Am I going to congratulate you for that? No. I am going to continue to advocate for all people - men and women and everything in between - to wear clothes that fit properly. We would ALL be more Comfortable walking around in pajamas and Slippers, but then what would separate us from the gamers who never leave the basement or the stoned college frat boy. Tuck your shirt in and have some self respect.

Sincerely,
Your better self

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having read through this entire post I can see plainly now that I am most definitely a frump. And furthermore, that I in fact enjoy and intend to continue on in my frumptitude. Who the fuck cares? I have 3 kids, a loving husband, and I'm 45. I really don't care that much. I want to wear what I want to wear. I'm old enough to have lived through the early days of Prince and Madonna, Pretty in Pink, Julia Robert's first film, grunge, the rebirth of 80's dance/rock, Bollywood, ....and at this point, it's really all been done. Who the hell cares enough to publicly judge another woman for not valuing her appearance enough to really put serious coins into it????? Clothes are fun, but they're just clothes. At least now I am aware that when I wear capris that I am hideously unattractive. Ha! The irony is that I actually think I look good in capris!!! So the joke's on me. Seriously, as women age, we really don't need to continue to be "on trend" unless we're in the fashion industry, right???? Isn't that the beauty of aging??? Don't we ever get to graduate from high school or are we really consigned to a lifetime of servitude to arbitrary rules of fashion and "on tend" bs?

Dear Capri Pants,
This isn't about the fashion industry or trends. It's about self-awareness and self-respect, not money or labels. Frumpy is having so little self awareness that you have no idea what looks good on you or flatters what you've got. You certainly don't seem to care about how you look. Am I going to congratulate you for that? No. I am going to continue to advocate for all people - men and women and everything in between - to wear clothes that fit properly. We would ALL be more Comfortable walking around in pajamas and Slippers, but then what would separate us from the gamers who never leave the basement or the stoned college frat boy. Tuck your shirt in and have some self respect.

Sincerely,
Your better self

I'm so glad we have people to advocate for this. One of the major issues in our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, fisherman sweaters are frumpy? I think they are cute casual. Check out this girl. You think this is frumpy?

Adorable on her. Frumpy on a 47 mother of 2.

Unless that mother has the same build as the model (spoiler: I don't)

Most women can't pull this off.

Well fat women, sure. Fat women can't pull anything off though. Sorry the truth hurts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, fisherman sweaters are frumpy? I think they are cute casual. Check out this girl. You think this is frumpy?

Adorable on her. Frumpy on a 47 mother of 2.

Unless that mother has the same build as the model (spoiler: I don't)

Most women can't pull this off.

Well fat women, sure. Fat women can't pull anything off though. Sorry the truth hurts.

+ 1

If you're buying this sweater in a XS or S, you don't have to worry. If you're buying it in a Large or higher, don't bother.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's about fat or not fat. It is about dressing for your body. But, not everyone has this model's coloring. In fact, this model, by virtue of her coloring, is probably seen as somewhat less frumpy. Not everyone has stringy white hair, is fair and skinny. Not everyone looks like they are 12.

[Anonymous]

And that model looks like a ghost!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having read through this entire post I can see plainly now that I am most definitely a frump. And furthermore, that I in fact enjoy and intend to continue on in my frumptitude. Who the fuck cares? I have 3 kids, a loving husband, and I'm 45. I really don't care that much. I want to wear what I want to wear. I'm old enough to have lived through the early days of Prince and Madonna, Pretty in Pink, Julia Robert's first film, grunge, the rebirth of 80's dance/rock, Bollywood, ....and at this point, it's really all been done. Who the hell cares enough to publicly judge another woman for not valuing her appearance enough to really put serious coins into it????? Clothes are fun, but they're just clothes. At least now I am aware that when I wear capris that I am hideously unattractive. Ha! The irony is that I actually think I look good in capris!!! So the joke's on me. Seriously, as women age, we really don't need to continue to be "on trend" unless we're in the fashion industry, right???? Isn't that the beauty of aging??? Don't we ever get to graduate from high school or are we really consigned to a lifetime of servitude to arbitrary rules of fashion and "on tend" bs?

Dear Capri Pants,
This isn't about the fashion industry or trends. It's about self-awareness and self-respect, not money or labels. Frumpy is having so little self awareness that you have no idea what looks good on you or flatters what you've got. You certainly don't seem to care about how you look. Am I going to congratulate you for that? No. I am going to continue to advocate for all people - men and women and everything in between - to wear clothes that fit properly. We would ALL be more Comfortable walking around in pajamas and Slippers, but then what would separate us from the gamers who never leave the basement or the stoned college frat boy. Tuck your shirt in and have some self respect.

Sincerely,
Your better self

Dear your "better" self,

You misunderstand. Where does one find non-capri or ankle length pants these days?! I am 5'9" the ankle length pants are capris on me. Long pants are impossible to find, especially casual long pants. I work in an office with a very casual dress code. A couple of my coworkers wear yoga pants daily. I would rather wear pant that are too short than yoga pants. For many women, there are no stores currently selling clothing that looks good. I don't think you understand this! I have gone shopping 3 Saturday within the last 2 months. I have a bought nothing, left empty handed in disgust. Many of us are tired of fashion and the poor quality of clothing. For some of us, we care but there isn't anything out there for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, fisherman sweaters are frumpy? I think they are cute casual. Check out this girl. You think this is frumpy?

Adorable on her. Frumpy on a 47 mother of 2.

Unless that mother has the same build as the model (spoiler: I don't)

Most women can't pull this off.

Well fat women, sure. Fat women can't pull anything off though. Sorry the truth hurts.

I'm close to 40, nonwhite, fit, and would wear that outfit with a funkier hair style (think Afro -- though that's not linked to my particular ethnicity, but the same spirit of the kind of style I appreciate), chunky gold jewelry and some cool suede vans. No makeup. Bam. Much more stylish than this model.