PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges

[Anonymous]

I have to chime in here that BASIS high school scores were 91 ELA/86 Math.

The BASIS 10th grade class is very small but they scored quite well. We'll see how next year's 10th graders, who number about 50-55 do.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to chime in here that BASIS high school scores were 91 ELA/86 Math.

The BASIS 10th grade class is very small but they scored quite well. We'll see how next year's 10th graders, who number about 50-55 do.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

That sounds spectacular.

Given we're talking about attrition rates too, to understand those PARCC numbers in context...does BASIS counsel out many students between 9th and 10th grade? Do you have any data?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have to chime in here that BASIS high school scores were 91 ELA/86 Math.

The BASIS 10th grade class is very small but they scored quite well. We'll see how next year's 10th graders, who number about 50-55 do.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

That sounds spectacular.

Given we're talking about attrition rates too, to understand those PARCC numbers in context...does BASIS counsel out many students between 9th and 10th grade? Do you have any data?

One student left this fall to enter SWW as a 10th grader. Had strong grades, made a personal decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have to chime in here that BASIS high school scores were 91 ELA/86 Math.

The BASIS 10th grade class is very small but they scored quite well. We'll see how next year's 10th graders, who number about 50-55 do.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

That sounds spectacular.

Given we're talking about attrition rates too, to understand those PARCC numbers in context...does BASIS counsel out many students between 9th and 10th grade? Do you have any data?

It is a new program, they don't have that many HS students to begin with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to chime in here that BASIS high school scores were 91 ELA/86 Math.

The BASIS 10th grade class is very small but they scored quite well. We'll see how next year's 10th graders, who number about 50-55 do.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

That sounds spectacular.

Given we're talking about attrition rates too, to understand those PARCC numbers in context...does BASIS counsel out many students between 9th and 10th grade? Do you have any data?

It is a new program, they don't have that many HS students to begin with.

No, they don't. There are 17 seniors (will be first graduating class); 25-26 juniors; 50-55 sophomores.

I have no clue how many 9th graders there are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are white parents going to be clamoring to get into Banneker? It was the top scoring high school in DCPS with 98% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in literacy and 62% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in mathematics. School Without Walls was 84% proficiency in literacy and 52% proficiency in mathematics.

Have you been paying attention to this thread?

Not only is Banneker a test-in school, but it counsels out a large number of its students (anyone whose GPA drops below 3.0, even in the middle of a year). Combine that with the non-existent special ed or ELL populations and, voila, the few students who remain to actually take the PARCC do very well.

If Wilson could do all that, it'd probably be the best in the nation. If SWS was as aggressive as Banneker in counseling students out, its scores would be higher.

This is not accurate. My child is at Banneker and I know first hand that all students who have a GPA below 3.0 are not asked to leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to chime in here that BASIS high school scores were 91 ELA/86 Math.

The BASIS 10th grade class is very small but they scored quite well. We'll see how next year's 10th graders, who number about 50-55 do.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

That sounds spectacular.

Given we're talking about attrition rates too, to understand those PARCC numbers in context...does BASIS counsel out many students between 9th and 10th grade? Do you have any data?

It is a new program, they don't have that many HS students to begin with.

Welcome!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are white parents going to be clamoring to get into Banneker? It was the top scoring high school in DCPS with 98% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in literacy and 62% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in mathematics. School Without Walls was 84% proficiency in literacy and 52% proficiency in mathematics.

Have you been paying attention to this thread?

Not only is Banneker a test-in school, but it counsels out a large number of its students (anyone whose GPA drops below 3.0, even in the middle of a year). Combine that with the non-existent special ed or ELL populations and, voila, the few students who remain to actually take the PARCC do very well.

If Wilson could do all that, it'd probably be the best in the nation. If SWS was as aggressive as Banneker in counseling students out, its scores would be higher.

Just a correction - i said it used to be 3.0.

I think DCPS has reworked the Banneker grading system so that it's less draconian -- by it is still a school with significant attrition from 9th to 12th.

I'm the pp, didn't see that you corrected your statement. Oh and you are correct about Banneker's grading scale, it's now the same as other DCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Banneker predominantly African American?

Yes.

Banneker -

81.1% Black
.2% White
14% Latino
1.8% Asian
2.2% Multi-racial

Keep in mind that Banneker, like SWW High school, can send students who don't maintain a minimum GPA back to their neighborhood schools.

Not only they can, but they do. The "out" rates are astonishingly high (just looked at enrollment data a few weeks ago)

How does one get into Banneker. Sorry my kid is only in second grade but is zoned for Wilson where he will NOT go.

Banneker parent here. Your kid should have an overall 3.0 GPA in middle school by the time you apply for 9th grade. Also must test proficient in both math and English. When you apply your child will have to write an essay and then interview.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are white parents going to be clamoring to get into Banneker? It was the top scoring high school in DCPS with 98% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in literacy and 62% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in mathematics. School Without Walls was 84% proficiency in literacy and 52% proficiency in mathematics.

Have you been paying attention to this thread?

Not only is Banneker a test-in school, but it counsels out a large number of its students (anyone whose GPA drops below 3.0, even in the middle of a year). Combine that with the non-existent special ed or ELL populations and, voila, the few students who remain to actually take the PARCC do very well.

If Wilson could do all that, it'd probably be the best in the nation. If SWS was as aggressive as Banneker in counseling students out, its scores would be higher.

Just a correction - i said it used to be 3.0.

I think DCPS has reworked the Banneker grading system so that it's less draconian -- by it is still a school with significant attrition from 9th to 12th.

Thank you for the clarification. I'd love to see the comparable attrition data from SWS.

According to learnDC.org (thank you PP for the suggestion), Banneker and SWS have completely different attrition profiles.

Enrollment at Banneker:
- 9th: 167
- 10th: 114
- 11th: 74
- 12th: 94

Approx. attrition rate: 44%

Enrollment at SWS:
- 9th: 160
- 10th: 142
- 11th: 150
- 12th: 138

Approx. attrition rate: 14%


Quite relevant when we compare PARCC numbers, correct?

(Both are great schools, but there's no need to hype results)

Maybe. PARCC is only supposed administered in during high school once, in 10th grade for ELA and whenever the right year happens based on their math level.

For 2014-15 DCPS tested kids in 9th and 10th for ELA. No idea what they did for 15-16. At any rate if they normalize to just 10th the attrition issue will be less stark between SWW and Banneker.

But how do you normalize for the fact that, based on general data above, Banneker has kicked out 32% of its lower-performing students by 10th grade, and SWW only 11%?

That 21% difference makes Banneker look like a better school than it actually is.

Don't forget SWW wipes out loads of kids before they are admitted through their required testing. Many kids can't pass that math test and don't even make it into the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are white parents going to be clamoring to get into Banneker? It was the top scoring high school in DCPS with 98% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in literacy and 62% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in mathematics. School Without Walls was 84% proficiency in literacy and 52% proficiency in mathematics.

Have you been paying attention to this thread?

Not only is Banneker a test-in school, but it counsels out a large number of its students (anyone whose GPA drops below 3.0, even in the middle of a year). Combine that with the non-existent special ed or ELL populations and, voila, the few students who remain to actually take the PARCC do very well.

If Wilson could do all that, it'd probably be the best in the nation. If SWS was as aggressive as Banneker in counseling students out, its scores would be higher.

Just a correction - i said it used to be 3.0.

I think DCPS has reworked the Banneker grading system so that it's less draconian -- by it is still a school with significant attrition from 9th to 12th.

Thank you for the clarification. I'd love to see the comparable attrition data from SWS.

According to learnDC.org (thank you PP for the suggestion), Banneker and SWS have completely different attrition profiles.

Enrollment at Banneker:
- 9th: 167
- 10th: 114
- 11th: 74
- 12th: 94

Approx. attrition rate: 44%

Enrollment at SWS:
- 9th: 160
- 10th: 142
- 11th: 150
- 12th: 138

Approx. attrition rate: 14%


Quite relevant when we compare PARCC numbers, correct?

(Both are great schools, but there's no need to hype results)

Maybe. PARCC is only supposed administered in during high school once, in 10th grade for ELA and whenever the right year happens based on their math level.

For 2014-15 DCPS tested kids in 9th and 10th for ELA. No idea what they did for 15-16. At any rate if they normalize to just 10th the attrition issue will be less stark between SWW and Banneker.

But how do you normalize for the fact that, based on general data above, Banneker has kicked out 32% of its lower-performing students by 10th grade, and SWW only 11%?

That 21% difference makes Banneker look like a better school than it actually is.

Don't forget SWW wipes out loads of kids before they are admitted through their required testing. Many kids can't pass that math test and don't even make it into the school.

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Banneker does the same, since they are both test-in schools.

The question is what happens to students once they happily enter the school building.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are white parents going to be clamoring to get into Banneker? It was the top scoring high school in DCPS with 98% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in literacy and 62% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in mathematics. School Without Walls was 84% proficiency in literacy and 52% proficiency in mathematics.

Have you been paying attention to this thread?

Not only is Banneker a test-in school, but it counsels out a large number of its students (anyone whose GPA drops below 3.0, even in the middle of a year). Combine that with the non-existent special ed or ELL populations and, voila, the few students who remain to actually take the PARCC do very well.

If Wilson could do all that, it'd probably be the best in the nation. If SWS was as aggressive as Banneker in counseling students out, its scores would be higher.

Just a correction - i said it used to be 3.0.

I think DCPS has reworked the Banneker grading system so that it's less draconian -- by it is still a school with significant attrition from 9th to 12th.

Thank you for the clarification. I'd love to see the comparable attrition data from SWS.

According to learnDC.org (thank you PP for the suggestion), Banneker and SWS have completely different attrition profiles.

Enrollment at Banneker:
- 9th: 167
- 10th: 114
- 11th: 74
- 12th: 94

Approx. attrition rate: 44%

Enrollment at SWS:
- 9th: 160
- 10th: 142
- 11th: 150
- 12th: 138

Approx. attrition rate: 14%


Quite relevant when we compare PARCC numbers, correct?

(Both are great schools, but there's no need to hype results)

Maybe. PARCC is only supposed administered in during high school once, in 10th grade for ELA and whenever the right year happens based on their math level.

For 2014-15 DCPS tested kids in 9th and 10th for ELA. No idea what they did for 15-16. At any rate if they normalize to just 10th the attrition issue will be less stark between SWW and Banneker.

But how do you normalize for the fact that, based on general data above, Banneker has kicked out 32% of its lower-performing students by 10th grade, and SWW only 11%?

That 21% difference makes Banneker look like a better school than it actually is.

This is slightly ridiculous. It is a better school because those who graduate are more proficient. Now, it kicks out many kids but that is entirely its right as an application school seeking to educate the high achievers. I'm not sure you would be making such a fuss if this were TJ in Virginia with this attrition rate. Because TJ is mostly white/asian it would be seen as kids not being able to keep up with the curriculum and being steered toward a more appropriate environment. SWW may be harder to get into but its metrics for continuing aren't the same - it caters to more individualized learning.

No, people say exactly the same thing about TJ.

[Anonymous]

Good point. Does Banneker have an admissions test?

I think it's just grades, teacher recommendations and the interview?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are white parents going to be clamoring to get into Banneker? It was the top scoring high school in DCPS with 98% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in literacy and 62% of its students scoring at or above proficiency in mathematics. School Without Walls was 84% proficiency in literacy and 52% proficiency in mathematics.

Have you been paying attention to this thread?

Not only is Banneker a test-in school, but it counsels out a large number of its students (anyone whose GPA drops below 3.0, even in the middle of a year). Combine that with the non-existent special ed or ELL populations and, voila, the few students who remain to actually take the PARCC do very well.

If Wilson could do all that, it'd probably be the best in the nation. If SWS was as aggressive as Banneker in counseling students out, its scores would be higher.

This is not accurate. My child is at Banneker and I know first hand that all students who have a GPA below 3.0 are not asked to leave.

You'll never be able to convince these insecure racists. According to them, lower student retention is the only way this school can compete. I know students who attend Banneker who have not been asked to leave despite their low GPAs. The folks on this thread also won't admit that Banneker (a Title I school) has a much higher percentage of economically disadvantaged students than School Without Walls (a non-Title I school).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The drop at Wilson is bad. I suspect some of it is kids not taking the test and kids not caring about the test. Also, didn't they made Seniors take the Geometry test last year if they hadn't taken it before -- even if they took Geometry at years prior? But that may not explain it all.

But the focus on Wilson ignores the fact that other high schools are still scoring 0% on the math portion. It doesn't matter where your kids go to school, that is alarming when you look at education in DC.

I really don't put too much weight into the test since my smart, white, high SES kids tend to do poorly (sorry Wilson and Deal).

But like you I am shocked at scores of the other high schools. Eastern I actually had hopes for. Tech, horrible. Then you look at the ones they sunk hundreds of millions of dollars renovating -- pathetic. Truly pathetic that those teachers are allowed to continue to work for DCPS.

Oh, right. Must be the teachers. Fire the teachers. Hire new ones. Then check the scores. Wait a minute. We've been here before.