Maryland license plate vigilantes

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Anonymous wrote:There is always some jerk from Maryland who thinks its okay to cheat the system. Good for that parent! At least someone is doing something.

Really.....too much time on your hands if you can do this. I am a long time resident of the DC and own 5 homes between DC and MD. Some of my cars have MD tags and other have DC. I would love for one of you parents to stop me dropping off my child so I can more than flick off giving you a piece of my mind followed by giving you my DC address to find me later, should you have questions and need further flicking off on. ,

You do realize that having cars registered in two jurisdictions is also illegal, right? You can only have primary residence in one state or territory at a time and must register cars where you have established your primary residence. This is the reason motor-voter laws work. In order to register a car, you must hold a valid license from that state or jurisdiction. If you hold more than one license, you could potentially vote in more than one state, committing voter fraud. These crimes are all linked. Tax fraud, license fraud, school residency fraud, voter fraud all stem from people not being truthful about where they legally reside.

You might not be committing school residency fraud, but you can get down off of your high horse because you are committing a crime.

you are so wrong. Do you write fiction for a living. You can have cars registered in different states. Many people with vacation homes or multiple homes do just that. When you add the car on your insurance you're asked where will
The car be housed and registered. You are correct about the drivers license, but car registration and driver license are two separate issues.

So now the cheater's excuse is that they have a vacation home in Landover?

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Anonymous wrote:You can have all the documentation you want, sadly, nothing will happen.

I have taken photos of one family's MD license plates at a Deal feeder and at Deal.
I have given the names of the students and the address used in the school's directory.
It is well known to kids' friends that they live in MD but grandparents live in DC. Classic.
This has gone on for 5 years. Yes, Deal Middle School and one of the feeder schools.

DCPS has not done anything.

And it's a really fancy/expensive car. I know it shouldn't but that annoys me.

Did you report them to OSSE? http://dcforms.dc.gov/webform/osse-residency-fraud-prevention-form

I did report them, not this year, but other years. I actually spoke to a person one time who took the info. I'll do it again using this site, it looks thorough.

Not an excuse, but the truth of the matter is that government agencies are not going to do everything well. From a priorities standpoint, if the goal is to turnaround or improve overall academic performance in the district, I would rather OSSE and DCPS focus on providing adequate support to schools/teachers (instead of making things more difficult or doing nothing). Residency fraud is an issue, but its not material, or one of high priority at this point in time. I'm not upset that OSSE doesn't have residency fraud agents staffed at the wazoo to appease my other fellow gentrifiers.

You should be. Residency fraud is theft of services -- a theft of resources that could otherwise go to improving overall academic performance, particularly at a struggling school, not to mention the theft of a spot that a deserving DC child sought but lost in the lottery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is always some jerk from Maryland who thinks its okay to cheat the system. Good for that parent! At least someone is doing something.

Really.....too much time on your hands if you can do this. I am a long time resident of the DC and own 5 homes between DC and MD. Some of my cars have MD tags and other have DC. I would love for one of you parents to stop me dropping off my child so I can more than flick off giving you a piece of my mind followed by giving you my DC address to find me later, should you have questions and need further flicking off on. ,

Probably works for the DC government.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many "Long Term Residents" - families that grew up here and think nothing of using parents or other extended family members addresses.

Go stand at the metro stop in Landover tomorrow morning. See how many kids are taking metro into DC for school.

DC schools aren' that good. Little too mo difference between PG and DC. Don't over shoot the academics of DC. I guess MoCo and Fairfax residents come to DC too?

HAHAHA Do a search for Bradbury Heights Elementary. Yes some PG schools are horrible and make the DC schools shine in comparison.

There are exceptions but not the rule. No parent is driving from Capitol Heights, Md all the way over to Chevy Chase. Now what you should be talking about is the amount of DC students using addresses to attend a MoCo school. silence, right.

Families definitely do this commute.

No they don't. Name one?

Interesting note, just yesterday a colleague asked me if I had any friends or family in MOCO that would allow me to use their address to send my son to the Chinese immersion school. I live in DC. Colleague also lives in DC, but sends her two kids to school in Rockville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which school was this happening at this morning?

Happens everywhere, particularly where schools are mixed IB-OOB. Because students live all over the city, it's easier for cheating MD residents to fly below the radar. It would be very difficult to do it in the Janney District, for example. I've seen a noticeable number of MD cars, for example, at Hearst dropoff and pickup times.

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also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

That provision is only supposed to come into play when there are no DC residents who wish to attend the school - aka no wait list. That's exceedingly unlikely at any school worth paying for.

[Anonymous]

"Byron, I think the real question our viewers are wondering here is, how many more times can the terms 'Landover,' 'PG county,' and 'free daycare' be brought up in this thread before it is closed down forever?"

"What do you mean, Cindy? Those terms aren't code for anything, except lazy government employees who live in giant mcmansions and go on elaborate Disney vacations at the taxpayers expense thanks to DC schools!"

"I'm thinking about five hundred more times, Byron. Because this woman never shuts the hell up."

"But it's cheating! Cheating is bad!"

"Tell that to your husband, Byron. I just saw him checking out of the Mayflower with Steve."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

That provision is only supposed to come into play when there are no DC residents who wish to attend the school - aka no wait list. That's exceedingly unlikely at any school worth paying for.

I know of someonee who lives in Maryland whose kid will be starting at Duke Ellington in the fall, paying the fee to attend. Knowing how many students try to get into Ellington each year, I find that completely outrageous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

That provision is only supposed to come into play when there are no DC residents who wish to attend the school - aka no wait list. That's exceedingly unlikely at any school worth paying for.

I know of someonee who lives in Maryland whose kid will be starting at Duke Ellington in the fall, paying the fee to attend. Knowing how many students try to get into Ellington each year, I find that completely outrageous.

Ellington still has slots open (see the MSDC space available list). You do, however, have to have to get through the portfolio / audition process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

Call OSSE or your local DCPS and ask how many tuition paying students they have at the school. You can probably guess the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

That provision is only supposed to come into play when there are no DC residents who wish to attend the school - aka no wait list. That's exceedingly unlikely at any school worth paying for.

I know of someonee who lives in Maryland whose kid will be starting at Duke Ellington in the fall, paying the fee to attend. Knowing how many students try to get into Ellington each year, I find that completely outrageous.

Ellington still has slots open (see the MSDC space available list). You do, however, have to have to get through the portfolio / audition process.

Ellington is also known for not collecting the tuition that they are legally obligated to collect. Why should they? They're getting over 80% of their operating budget from DCPS and the DC government is picking up their renovation tab, which is currently $200 million and climbing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

That provision is only supposed to come into play when there are no DC residents who wish to attend the school - aka no wait list. That's exceedingly unlikely at any school worth paying for.

I know of someonee who lives in Maryland whose kid will be starting at Duke Ellington in the fall, paying the fee to attend. Knowing how many students try to get into Ellington each year, I find that completely outrageous.

An audit showed that Ellington usually doesn't bother to collect the tuition fees for out of DC students.

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Maybe if arts, music, drama got more attention (hello? Fillmore?), there wouldn't be open slots at Ellington. And just how transparent do you suppose the portfolio/audition process is at Ellington? Tuition-paying out-of-state students are probably very attractive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:also, how do you know they are necessarily cheating the system - there's a provision for OODC that let's folks pay to go to school in DC. Not sure why they would, but just saying, how do you know they are breaking the rules?

That provision is only supposed to come into play when there are no DC residents who wish to attend the school - aka no wait list. That's exceedingly unlikely at any school worth paying for.

I know of someonee who lives in Maryland whose kid will be starting at Duke Ellington in the fall, paying the fee to attend. Knowing how many students try to get into Ellington each year, I find that completely outrageous.

An audit showed that Ellington usually doesn't bother to collect the tuition fees for out of DC students.

In response to that audit, responsibility for tuition payment collection has been giving to OSSE (other than DCPS or each charter). Students cannot start school until tuition is paid in full or a binding tuition payment plan has been put into effect.