The DNC is a joke

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Anonymous wrote:More info being collated over at Snopes...

Turns out there's a lot of misinformation/disinformation being circulated by the Clinton campaign...

For one, and most importantly, it's looking like the supposed "exports" of data only consisted of a one-page summary, as opposed to detailed records of individual voters.

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-data-breach-controversy/


So why did they immediately fire the data director who accessed the data and immediately created new accounts for other Sanders staffers to access the data?

They accessed the Clinton campaign inputs about voters. Four people did not access just for a one page summary sheet.
Anonymous
Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More info being collated over at Snopes...

Turns out there's a lot of misinformation/disinformation being circulated by the Clinton campaign...

For one, and most importantly, it's looking like the supposed "exports" of data only consisted of a one-page summary, as opposed to detailed records of individual voters.

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-data-breach-controversy/


So why did they immediately fire the data director who accessed the data and immediately created new accounts for other Sanders staffers to access the data?

They accessed the Clinton campaign inputs about voters. Four people did not access just for a one page summary sheet.


so?

what Hillary HERSELF did with her emails while secretary of state is way worse than what some Sanders staffers did now.

should the DNC disqualify her from running?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.

Trump? Since when do you work for Hillary?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?


Because for whatever reason it feels like the dnc favors her to the point of trying to discredit Sanders. It's because he's the underdog and she seems more like an insider. I'm not saying it's all true, but when we're undecided many of us vote with our gut, and these kinds of negative associations with Hillary make me want to go the other way.

If she speaks out against the dnc reaction or facilitates Bernie being back in good graces, it will restore faith in her as more than just someone in it to win. It's why people applauded when Bernie said that "damn emails" line. It's even why trump gains popularity. You want to feel like the person is making human connections and saying something "real" not just playing a game to win.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?


Because for whatever reason it feels like the dnc favors her to the point of trying to discredit Sanders. It's because he's the underdog and she seems more like an insider. I'm not saying it's all true, but when we're undecided many of us vote with our gut, and these kinds of negative associations with Hillary make me want to go the other way.

If she speaks out against the dnc reaction or facilitates Bernie being back in good graces, it will restore faith in her as more than just someone in it to win. It's why people applauded when Bernie said that "damn emails" line. It's even why trump gains popularity. You want to feel like the person is making human connections and saying something "real" not just playing a game to win.


But why shouldn't the DNC favor her? Why do they owe Sanders anything? All those years in the Senate he refused to join party, refused to pay DNC and DSCC dues, why do they owe him anything now that he's begging for their charity?
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?


Because for whatever reason it feels like the dnc favors her to the point of trying to discredit Sanders. It's because he's the underdog and she seems more like an insider. I'm not saying it's all true, but when we're undecided many of us vote with our gut, and these kinds of negative associations with Hillary make me want to go the other way.

If she speaks out against the dnc reaction or facilitates Bernie being back in good graces, it will restore faith in her as more than just someone in it to win. It's why people applauded when Bernie said that "damn emails" line. It's even why trump gains popularity. You want to feel like the person is making human connections and saying something "real" not just playing a game to win.


But why shouldn't the DNC favor her? Why do they owe Sanders anything? All those years in the Senate he refused to join party, refused to pay DNC and DSCC dues, why do they owe him anything now that he's begging for their charity?


Are they supposed to treat all people running as Democrats equally? (Sincere question)
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?


Because for whatever reason it feels like the dnc favors her to the point of trying to discredit Sanders. It's because he's the underdog and she seems more like an insider. I'm not saying it's all true, but when we're undecided many of us vote with our gut, and these kinds of negative associations with Hillary make me want to go the other way.

If she speaks out against the dnc reaction or facilitates Bernie being back in good graces, it will restore faith in her as more than just someone in it to win. It's why people applauded when Bernie said that "damn emails" line. It's even why trump gains popularity. You want to feel like the person is making human connections and saying something "real" not just playing a game to win.


But why shouldn't the DNC favor her? Why do they owe Sanders anything? All those years in the Senate he refused to join party, refused to pay DNC and DSCC dues, why do they owe him anything now that he's begging for their charity?


Are they supposed to treat all people running as Democrats equally? (Sincere question)


Maybe theoretically, but it's really not cool or fair for someone who just decided to be a Democrat last Thursday to come in demanding this. Bernie has never been loyal to the party but he seems to expect the same in return. No thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?


Because for whatever reason it feels like the dnc favors her to the point of trying to discredit Sanders. It's because he's the underdog and she seems more like an insider. I'm not saying it's all true, but when we're undecided many of us vote with our gut, and these kinds of negative associations with Hillary make me want to go the other way.

If she speaks out against the dnc reaction or facilitates Bernie being back in good graces, it will restore faith in her as more than just someone in it to win. It's why people applauded when Bernie said that "damn emails" line. It's even why trump gains popularity. You want to feel like the person is making human connections and saying something "real" not just playing a game to win.


But why shouldn't the DNC favor her? Why do they owe Sanders anything? All those years in the Senate he refused to join party, refused to pay DNC and DSCC dues, why do they owe him anything now that he's begging for their charity?


Are they supposed to treat all people running as Democrats equally? (Sincere question)


Maybe theoretically, but it's really not cool or fair for someone who just decided to be a Democrat last Thursday to come in demanding this. Bernie has never been loyal to the party but he seems to expect the same in return. No thanks.



Do they have any say in who calls themselves a Democrat when running for office? Do they get anything from Democratic candidates?
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?


Because for whatever reason it feels like the dnc favors her to the point of trying to discredit Sanders. It's because he's the underdog and she seems more like an insider. I'm not saying it's all true, but when we're undecided many of us vote with our gut, and these kinds of negative associations with Hillary make me want to go the other way.

If she speaks out against the dnc reaction or facilitates Bernie being back in good graces, it will restore faith in her as more than just someone in it to win. It's why people applauded when Bernie said that "damn emails" line. It's even why trump gains popularity. You want to feel like the person is making human connections and saying something "real" not just playing a game to win.


But why shouldn't the DNC favor her? Why do they owe Sanders anything? All those years in the Senate he refused to join party, refused to pay DNC and DSCC dues, why do they owe him anything now that he's begging for their charity?


Are they supposed to treat all people running as Democrats equally? (Sincere question)


Maybe theoretically, but it's really not cool or fair for someone who just decided to be a Democrat last Thursday to come in demanding this. Bernie has never been loyal to the party but he seems to expect the same in return. No thanks.



Do they have any say in who calls themselves a Democrat when running for office? Do they get anything from Democratic candidates?


Democratic elected officials pay dues, which Bernie hasn't been doing since he wasn't a Democrat until this year. Anyone can register to vote as a member of whatever party they choose.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary should release a statement reinforcing her trust in Bernie. If she doesn't, this is going to move against her.


No it's not. Bernie's a loser and his staff are losers. He didn't even want to be a Democrat until he decided to run for president. His loser data director stole
from her, it's not on Hillary to release a statement about "trusting" Bernie because we now know she shouldn't trust him.


I'm speaking as someone who is not sure which candidate I'll pick in the primary. I like them both for different reasons. The way this is developing hurts Hillary. It's not her responsibility to do anything, but she's a smart politician and she should.


Why?


Because for whatever reason it feels like the dnc favors her to the point of trying to discredit Sanders. It's because he's the underdog and she seems more like an insider. I'm not saying it's all true, but when we're undecided many of us vote with our gut, and these kinds of negative associations with Hillary make me want to go the other way.

If she speaks out against the dnc reaction or facilitates Bernie being back in good graces, it will restore faith in her as more than just someone in it to win. It's why people applauded when Bernie said that "damn emails" line. It's even why trump gains popularity. You want to feel like the person is making human connections and saying something "real" not just playing a game to win.


But why shouldn't the DNC favor her? Why do they owe Sanders anything? All those years in the Senate he refused to join party, refused to pay DNC and DSCC dues, why do they owe him anything now that he's begging for their charity?


Are they supposed to treat all people running as Democrats equally? (Sincere question)


Maybe theoretically, but it's really not cool or fair for someone who just decided to be a Democrat last Thursday to come in demanding this. Bernie has never been loyal to the party but he seems to expect the same in return. No thanks.


Bernie votes with Democrats 98% of the time. He is currently tracking at about 30% of Dems nationally. If you want to write off his supporters that is your business, but it is not in the best interest of the party. The bottom line is that Hilary is an insider and many do not trust her. I am one of those who supports Bernie and would have gone over to Hillary if she won the nomination. This makes me so mad that I am not sure i can support her. I may feel differently and chicken out in the voting booth, but this just crossed a line in my book for no good reason. The reaction of the DNC is just overkill.
Anonymous
The DNC gave him the same access to their database as any other Democratic candidate until his campaign broke the rules and exploited a bug in the system to access information that belongs to the Clinton campaign.

Sanders is not a victim of anything here and Hillary literally has had nothing to do with this. The vendor detected that Sanders campaign alone had abused their access.
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