I will say Merry Christmas to everyone and won't let anyone stop me

[Anonymous]

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I think of any of us who are 55 and up, we remember being young and learning you say Merry Christmas in December not so much that you are trying to shove you religion down someones throat but just as a kind greeting to wish someone well during the holidays.

Now its being turned into a greeting with the secret agenda, this is absurd. There is nothing wrong with saying Merry Christmas IMO as a holiday greeting to wish someone well. End of story.


No, it's not being turned into a greeting with a secret agenda. What's happening is that people are becoming better educated and aware, and realize that there's a huge portion of the population that not only doesn't celebrate Christmas, but may have their own religious celebrations that occur during the November/December time frame. Saying "Happy Holidays" incorporates Christmas, but also the other religious holidays the person might celebrate, and Thanksgiving/New Years. So when I hear someone wishing random people "Merry Christmas," I don't assume it's malicious, but I do tend to assume the person is probably a little less educated (not in the bookish sense, but in the worldly sense).

Yep if you say Merry Christmas people think you are a member of Westboro Baptist church, tea partiers protesting the Sand Hook parents and packing a gun. It has become a right wing greeting.

Nope, not what I'm saying at all. I don't assume hatred on their parts at all, just a lack of understanding of how they impact others.

[Anonymous]

This is such a ridiculous "argument". Everyone needs to cool their jets....oh and Merry Christmas

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think of any of us who are 55 and up, we remember being young and learning you say Merry Christmas in December not so much that you are trying to shove you religion down someones throat but just as a kind greeting to wish someone well during the holidays.

Now its being turned into a greeting with the secret agenda, this is absurd. There is nothing wrong with saying Merry Christmas IMO as a holiday greeting to wish someone well. End of story.

No, it's not being turned into a greeting with a secret agenda. What's happening is that people are becoming better educated and aware, and realize that there's a huge portion of the population that not only doesn't celebrate Christmas, but may have their own religious celebrations that occur during the November/December time frame. Saying "Happy Holidays" incorporates Christmas, but also the other religious holidays the person might celebrate, and Thanksgiving/New Years. So when I hear someone wishing random people "Merry Christmas," I don't assume it's malicious, but I do tend to assume the person is probably a little less educated (not in the bookish sense, but in the worldly sense).

Uh yea also why we cannot say things like Thank God and why kids who mention reading a bible are sent home for the day from school, I could go on...when does it stop?
How moronic to say you think the person is less educated if they Merry Christmas. Just about everyone i know says it and I can tell you there is not an under educated one in the entire bunch.

When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas I say it right back and I dont' even celebrate it! If someone says Happy Holidays, I say Happy holidays right back. NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ITS MEANT WITH GOOD WILL. Lets not read into it any more!

Honestly, to me the assumption that they're just not that educated in the worldly sense is a kindness. The other assumption I could make is that they're well aware of the issue and understand the arguments on the other side, but have decided to deliberately exclude others and wish kindness only on those who celebrate Christmas. The former is benign, the latter malicious. No matter which assumption we make, though, I am always polite to people when they greet me.

Have your worldly mind considered it is about them, not you? Not everything in this world is about you, my friend. When I say "Merry Christmas," I express my holiday mood. I am not in DC, so there is a lot less ass-clenching here, thank goodness. I don't know how you people handle all those opinionated assholes who deem themselves and their opinions as the center of the Universe. I can't say I'm an atheist, but I was raised by atheists in an atheist state, so spiritual forays aside, I'm pretty secular. People like you still annoy me to no end. I wish you were not around anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of any of us who are 55 and up, we remember being young and learning you say Merry Christmas in December not so much that you are trying to shove you religion down someones throat but just as a kind greeting to wish someone well during the holidays.

Now its being turned into a greeting with the secret agenda, this is absurd. There is nothing wrong with saying Merry Christmas IMO as a holiday greeting to wish someone well. End of story.

No, it's not being turned into a greeting with a secret agenda. What's happening is that people are becoming better educated and aware, and realize that there's a huge portion of the population that not only doesn't celebrate Christmas, but may have their own religious celebrations that occur during the November/December time frame. Saying "Happy Holidays" incorporates Christmas, but also the other religious holidays the person might celebrate, and Thanksgiving/New Years. So when I hear someone wishing random people "Merry Christmas," I don't assume it's malicious, but I do tend to assume the person is probably a little less educated (not in the bookish sense, but in the worldly sense).

Uh yea also why we cannot say things like Thank God and why kids who mention reading a bible are sent home for the day from school, I could go on...when does it stop?
How moronic to say you think the person is less educated if they Merry Christmas. Just about everyone i know says it and I can tell you there is not an under educated one in the entire bunch.

When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas I say it right back and I dont' even celebrate it! If someone says Happy Holidays, I say Happy holidays right back. NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ITS MEANT WITH GOOD WILL. Lets not read into it any more!

Honestly, to me the assumption that they're just not that educated in the worldly sense is a kindness. The other assumption I could make is that they're well aware of the issue and understand the arguments on the other side, but have decided to deliberately exclude others and wish kindness only on those who celebrate Christmas. The former is benign, the latter malicious. No matter which assumption we make, though, I am always polite to people when they greet me.

Have your worldly mind considered it is about them, not you? Not everything in this world is about you, my friend. When I say "Merry Christmas," I express my holiday mood. I am not in DC, so there is a lot less ass-clenching here, thank goodness. I don't know how you people handle all those opinionated assholes who deem themselves and their opinions as the center of the Universe. I can't say I'm an atheist, but I was raised by atheists in an atheist state, so spiritual forays aside, I'm pretty secular. People like you still annoy me to no end. I wish you were not around anymore.

And there we have it, what this "Merry Christmas" parade is really about -- it's all about you, and screw everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think of any of us who are 55 and up, we remember being young and learning you say Merry Christmas in December not so much that you are trying to shove you religion down someones throat but just as a kind greeting to wish someone well during the holidays.

Now its being turned into a greeting with the secret agenda, this is absurd. There is nothing wrong with saying Merry Christmas IMO as a holiday greeting to wish someone well. End of story.

No, it's not being turned into a greeting with a secret agenda. What's happening is that people are becoming better educated and aware, and realize that there's a huge portion of the population that not only doesn't celebrate Christmas, but may have their own religious celebrations that occur during the November/December time frame. Saying "Happy Holidays" incorporates Christmas, but also the other religious holidays the person might celebrate, and Thanksgiving/New Years. So when I hear someone wishing random people "Merry Christmas," I don't assume it's malicious, but I do tend to assume the person is probably a little less educated (not in the bookish sense, but in the worldly sense).

Uh yea also why we cannot say things like Thank God and why kids who mention reading a bible are sent home for the day from school, I could go on...when does it stop?
How moronic to say you think the person is less educated if they Merry Christmas. Just about everyone i know says it and I can tell you there is not an under educated one in the entire bunch.

When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas I say it right back and I dont' even celebrate it! If someone says Happy Holidays, I say Happy holidays right back. NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ITS MEANT WITH GOOD WILL. Lets not read into it any more!

Honestly, to me the assumption that they're just not that educated in the worldly sense is a kindness. The other assumption I could make is that they're well aware of the issue and understand the arguments on the other side, but have decided to deliberately exclude others and wish kindness only on those who celebrate Christmas. The former is benign, the latter malicious. No matter which assumption we make, though, I am always polite to people when they greet me.

Have your worldly mind considered it is about them, not you? Not everything in this world is about you, my friend. When I say "Merry Christmas," I express my holiday mood. I am not in DC, so there is a lot less ass-clenching here, thank goodness. I don't know how you people handle all those opinionated assholes who deem themselves and their opinions as the center of the Universe. I can't say I'm an atheist, but I was raised by atheists in an atheist state, so spiritual forays aside, I'm pretty secular. People like you still annoy me to no end. I wish you were not around anymore.

And there we have it, what this "Merry Christmas" parade is really about -- it's all about you, and screw everyone else.

To clarify, I'm not talking about every person who says "Merry Christmas," just those who get really militant about their right to say Merry Christmas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP can you please give some examples? I don't understand what there is to be so sick of. Did you have a boss who forbade saying Merry Christmas? Or were you asked not to say it by a store manager or something? I'm seriously just trying to know if this is a real thing that exists outside of Fox News.

+1

[Anonymous]

Honestly I've never walked around saying Merry Christmas or any other holiday greeting to strangers. This whole thing is just odd.

[Anonymous]

Not pp but....Actually in a memo sent in my office last Dec. we were encouraged to use "generic holiday greetings" and I quote. Only after there was such an uproar did they send a revised memo with much more "politically correct" language.

And truthfully I feel like more people went out of their way to say Merry Christmas, could have been my imagination, not sure.

Nevertheless, my worries are much more centered around whether my D will get into the college of her dreams in a few weeks, of my next mortgage payment and the next political election. Christmas, holidays, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah...its all good. It's happy and well meaning. Let's not lose focus of that.

[Anonymous]

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Have your worldly mind considered it is about them, not you? Not everything in this world is about you, my friend. When I say "Merry Christmas," I express my holiday mood. I am not in DC, so there is a lot less ass-clenching here, thank goodness. I don't know how you people handle all those opinionated assholes who deem themselves and their opinions as the center of the Universe. I can't say I'm an atheist, but I was raised by atheists in an atheist state, so spiritual forays aside, I'm pretty secular. People like you still annoy me to no end. I wish you were not around anymore.

Merry Christmas, you sorry bastard, and the hell with you anyway! (says PP).

I am not a Christian, so I am not an authority on whether this comports with "the spirit of Christmas".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so SICK of this holiday P.C. bullshit. I celebrate Christmas am proud of it and won't hesitate to wish anyone out there a Merry Christmas with a smile and not think twice!! ENOUGH ALREADY!!

Hi mom.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so SICK of this holiday P.C. bullshit. I celebrate Christmas am proud of it and won't hesitate to wish anyone out there a Merry Christmas with a smile and not think twice!! ENOUGH ALREADY!!

Yes, Dec. 25th is Christmas and until a few years ago it was considered a holiday that everyone enjoyed taking part in even small ways for non Christians like enjoying the decorations,etc......it is a beautiful holiday and there is nothing at all wrong with wishing someone Merry Christmas.

+1000000 It really is a beautiful holiday. I am so tired of those who do not celebrate being so negative. I would never be negative about their beliefs or observed holidays.

You realize that 99% of the "war on Christmas" is made up by Fox News to keep their viewers riled up and tuned in? And the viewers buy it, hook, line, and sinker.

[Anonymous]

We all know that if it's on Fox, it must be a real and pressing matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's nice OP, but Jesus was born around September, and not December. The early Christians co-opted a pagan holiday.

But you have about 10 months to go before you can honestly wish people a Merry Christmas.

Wait a minute, I thought the Annunciation was August? If so that would be a May baby not December. Or is that the Ascension in August?

- Recovering Catholic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all know that if it's on Fox, it must be a real and pressing matter.

It is not an exaggeration to say that Fox News had made my previously rational parents insane. They were always Republican, but not like this. They were basically anti taxes and that was it. They seem to have forgotten that we didn't even attend church when I was growing up! And now they are bothered that I don't take my kids to church.

I really really hate Fox News.

[Anonymous]

What's wrong with "happy holidays?" There are several Christian holy days during the Christmas season, not to mention Thanksgiving and New Year's. I don't think "happy holidays" is PC; people have been saying it for decades, if not longer. It's just an alternative greeting during a season that has many holy days and holidays. And if it happens to include people who celebrate other winter holidays, great!