Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not one person on this board knows what she was thinking.

For all we know, she was trying to be some type of maryter to police against AA cause.

Oh pur-leeze. Excuses, excuses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how to say this without sounding like a real c*nt, but I'm saying it anyway. When he asked her to put out the cigarette, why was she so pissy and disrespectful? Did I miss part of the video, was he hateful to her first. We all know most cops are arrogant assholes. But we don't have to be belligerent back. Just do what they say and no one gets hurt.

So it's okay for the police to attack you for smoking in your car. Wow. WTF has happened to people in this country?

What's happened to our country is we've taught our kids to disrespect and question all authority. The first place outside of the house where this is learned is school. God forbid a teacher try to punish your darling Larla. Too many parents encourage their snowflakes to rebel against rules and ramifications.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think alot of posters here are absolving her from her actions. She is just as guilty as the police officer in contributing to a situation that should not have occurred.

So the penalty for talking back to a cop is death? She is not just as guilty Bc she didn't do anything illegal. He's the one with the gun and taser.

Umm, yes she did. No turn signal breaks the law. Thats illegal. Get your facts straight.

I am very afraid of you PP. You are a sick,racist individual and need some help. Can you please identify yourself so we can all keep our distance? Frightening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think alot of posters here are absolving her from her actions. She is just as guilty as the police officer in contributing to a situation that should not have occurred.

So the penalty for talking back to a cop is death? She is not just as guilty Bc she didn't do anything illegal. He's the one with the gun and taser.

Umm, yes she did. No turn signal breaks the law. Thats illegal. Get your facts straight.

The customary penalty for failure to put on your turn signal is a civil infraction equal to a ticket. It does not equal a criminal misdemeanor. It does not equal a knee in your back. And, it most definitely does not equal a bag over your head or around your neck. I want you to remember that the next time you do a rolling stop; failure to yield; driving too close; speeding to get through that yellow light; talking on your phone while driving; going five miles above the speed limit; etc. etc.

[Anonymous]

If she were in court acting that belligerent would she go to jail on contempt charges?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think alot of posters here are absolving her from her actions. She is just as guilty as the police officer in contributing to a situation that should not have occurred.

So the penalty for talking back to a cop is death? She is not just as guilty Bc she didn't do anything illegal. He's the one with the gun and taser.

Umm, yes she did. No turn signal breaks the law. Thats illegal. Get your facts straight.

Come on. Have you ever been arrested for not using a turn signal? Her real "offense" was not sucking up to that dbag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think alot of posters here are absolving her from her actions. She is just as guilty as the police officer in contributing to a situation that should not have occurred.

So the penalty for talking back to a cop is death? She is not just as guilty Bc she didn't do anything illegal. He's the one with the gun and taser.

Umm, yes she did. No turn signal breaks the law. Thats illegal. Get your facts straight.

The customary penalty for failure to put on your turn signal is a civil infraction equal to a ticket. It does not equal a criminal misdemeanor. It does not equal a knee in your back. And, it most definitely does not equal a bag over your head or around your neck. I want you to remember that the next time you do a rolling stop; failure to yield; driving too close; speeding to get through that yellow light; talking on your phone while driving; going five miles above the speed limit; etc. etc.

And the customary reaction for being pulled over on for a civil infraction is to respectfully accept that you broke a silly law, apologize and be on your way. Not to blow smoke on the officer, roll your eyes, refuse simple requests, and scream and carry on like a lunatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how to say this without sounding like a real c*nt, but I'm saying it anyway. When he asked her to put out the cigarette, why was she so pissy and disrespectful? Did I miss part of the video, was he hateful to her first. We all know most cops are arrogant assholes. But we don't have to be belligerent back. Just do what they say and no one gets hurt.

So it's okay for the police to attack you for smoking in your car. Wow. WTF has happened to people in this country?

What's happened to our country is we've taught our kids to disrespect and question all authority. The first place outside of the house where this is learned is school. God forbid a teacher try to punish your darling Larla. Too many parents encourage their snowflakes to rebel against rules and ramifications.

No, teaching your kids to not except and embrace authority just because it's authority is a good thing. I want my children to think and question right and wrong. They are not to agree to something just because someone is in authority. Otherwise, they will acquiesce to all things authority says, whether its right or wrong. It's a good thing the founding fathers of the U.S. did not respect authority and thus questioned the authority. Or, these United States would still be a colony of Great Britain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think alot of posters here are absolving her from her actions. She is just as guilty as the police officer in contributing to a situation that should not have occurred.

So the penalty for talking back to a cop is death? She is not just as guilty Bc she didn't do anything illegal. He's the one with the gun and taser.

Umm, yes she did. No turn signal breaks the law. Thats illegal. Get your facts straight.

The customary penalty for failure to put on your turn signal is a civil infraction equal to a ticket. It does not equal a criminal misdemeanor. It does not equal a knee in your back. And, it most definitely does not equal a bag over your head or around your neck. I want you to remember that the next time you do a rolling stop; failure to yield; driving too close; speeding to get through that yellow light; talking on your phone while driving; going five miles above the speed limit; etc. etc.

And the customary reaction for being pulled over on for a civil infraction is to respectfully accept that you broke a silly law, apologize and be on your way. Not to blow smoke on the officer, roll your eyes, refuse simple requests, and scream and carry on like a lunatic.

Where has it been reported that she was blowing smoke on the officer? Asking questions as to why she was pulled over equates to a lunatic. Alrighty now. DCUM never ceases to amaze me with their whacko views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how to say this without sounding like a real c*nt, but I'm saying it anyway. When he asked her to put out the cigarette, why was she so pissy and disrespectful? Did I miss part of the video, was he hateful to her first. We all know most cops are arrogant assholes. But we don't have to be belligerent back. Just do what they say and no one gets hurt.

So it's okay for the police to attack you for smoking in your car. Wow. WTF has happened to people in this country?

What's happened to our country is we've taught our kids to disrespect and question all authority. The first place outside of the house where this is learned is school. God forbid a teacher try to punish your darling Larla. Too many parents encourage their snowflakes to rebel against rules and ramifications.

No, teaching your kids to not except and embrace authority just because it's authority is a good thing. I want my children to think and question right and wrong. They are not to agree to something just because someone is in authority. Otherwise, they will acquiesce to all things authority says, whether its right or wrong. It's a good thing the founding fathers of the U.S. did not respect authority and thus questioned the authority. Or, these United States would still be a colony of Great Britain.

accept

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how to say this without sounding like a real c*nt, but I'm saying it anyway. When he asked her to put out the cigarette, why was she so pissy and disrespectful? Did I miss part of the video, was he hateful to her first. We all know most cops are arrogant assholes. But we don't have to be belligerent back. Just do what they say and no one gets hurt.

So it's okay for the police to attack you for smoking in your car. Wow. WTF has happened to people in this country?

It's always the initial action that the defenders revert back to. NO, it's not ok to be attacked for smoking in your car. NO, it's not ok to be killed for stealing a bag of chips. But, she wasn't attacked for smoking in her car. She reacted in such a hostile way, she escalated everything. Do you actually excuse (and endorse) the blatant disrespect and anti-authoritarian stance she took?

He is a trained police officer. No matter how much of an ass the citizen is, he should be capable of restraint.

If my kid is an ass to his teacher, I don't expect the teacher to beat him, no matter how much my kid is "asking for it". Trained professionals are expected to maintain a higher standard.

He should have written her a ticket for the failure to signal and sent her on her way.

By your logic, anything the cop asks you to do during a traffic stop, you should just do, because it's not worth getting killed over.

Cops are not God. We have a right and even a responsibility to stand up for our rights. We should not have to cower before policemen because if we don't,they might kill us.

It's not illegal to be hostile or a jerk or disrespectful. I agree, it's not wise and I don't endorse it. But average citizens should not end up dead for being jerks.

Cops should be better than that.

Frankly I can't believe people are actually excusing, and endorsing, a citizen ending up dead because she was (you say) nasty to a cop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If she were in court acting that belligerent would she go to jail on contempt charges?

A judge is not equal to a cop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think alot of posters here are absolving her from her actions. She is just as guilty as the police officer in contributing to a situation that should not have occurred.

So the penalty for talking back to a cop is death? She is not just as guilty Bc she didn't do anything illegal. He's the one with the gun and taser.

Umm, yes she did. No turn signal breaks the law. Thats illegal. Get your facts straight.

The customary penalty for failure to put on your turn signal is a civil infraction equal to a ticket. It does not equal a criminal misdemeanor. It does not equal a knee in your back. And, it most definitely does not equal a bag over your head or around your neck. I want you to remember that the next time you do a rolling stop; failure to yield; driving too close; speeding to get through that yellow light; talking on your phone while driving; going five miles above the speed limit; etc. etc.

And the customary reaction for being pulled over on for a civil infraction is to respectfully accept that you broke a silly law, apologize and be on your way. Not to blow smoke on the officer, roll your eyes, refuse simple requests, and scream and carry on like a lunatic.

Where has it been reported that she was blowing smoke on the officer? Asking questions as to why she was pulled over equates to a lunatic. Alrighty now. DCUM never ceases to amaze me with their whacko views.

I know, right?! The board is full of crazies who believe the "victims" are 100% in the right, no matter what the circumstance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how to say this without sounding like a real c*nt, but I'm saying it anyway. When he asked her to put out the cigarette, why was she so pissy and disrespectful? Did I miss part of the video, was he hateful to her first. We all know most cops are arrogant assholes. But we don't have to be belligerent back. Just do what they say and no one gets hurt.

So it's okay for the police to attack you for smoking in your car. Wow. WTF has happened to people in this country?

It's always the initial action that the defenders revert back to. NO, it's not ok to be attacked for smoking in your car. NO, it's not ok to be killed for stealing a bag of chips. But, she wasn't attacked for smoking in her car. She reacted in such a hostile way, she escalated everything. Do you actually excuse (and endorse) the blatant disrespect and anti-authoritarian stance she took?

He is a trained police officer. No matter how much of an ass the citizen is, he should be capable of restraint.

If my kid is an ass to his teacher, I don't expect the teacher to beat him, no matter how much my kid is "asking for it". Trained professionals are expected to maintain a higher standard.

He should have written her a ticket for the failure to signal and sent her on her way.

By your logic, anything the cop asks you to do during a traffic stop, you should just do, because it's not worth getting killed over.

Cops are not God. We have a right and even a responsibility to stand up for our rights. We should not have to cower before policemen because if we don't,they might kill us.

It's not illegal to be hostile or a jerk or disrespectful. I agree, it's not wise and I don't endorse it. But average citizens should not end up dead for being jerks.

Cops should be better than that.

Frankly I can't believe people are actually excusing, and endorsing, a citizen ending up dead because she was (you say) nasty to a cop.

The thing is, whether or not she should have been arrested, she was arrested and brought to jail. She wasn't killed for anything she did or didn't do at the traffic stop. She died 3 days later, either at her own hand or someone else's.

I get that she wouldn't have died in a jail cell if she hadn't been arrested. But most people who are arrested, and go to jail, pay bond and leave the jail cell. She died in the jail cell, not getting arrested.

[Anonymous]

Yes, but if not for the overreaction of the cop, she would probably not be dead. I believe that the medical examiner will find either that she was murdered or that the use of the taser/excessive force caused internal injuries that led to her death.

We shall see.