residency cheater in Janney PK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the family is newly homeless, Janey can't kick the kid out.... ijs.

Also, the A-Z directory may just be...

..wrong.

low paid govt workers sometimes are.

The OP has raised red flags that could suggest residency fraud. These should be reported to DCPS and the principal (with a request for follow-up with those filing the report). If the family is legitimately eligible for Janney, then the matter is easily closed. There's no use offering possible rationalizations or excuses at this stage. Let the school investigate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But "they" didn't propose a larger section of the Janney boundary, so there was no point. I don't think there would have been push back if it had been larger, but when you're talking about five families...

As for the set asides, the school is over capacity, if every year they let in ten percent for set asides.... what do we do, a third renovation? NO other elementary is growing at this rate.

Sure - If Bowser gets Alice Deal for all, Janney for all isn't such a stretch.

[Anonymous]

Oh, please. Just because the OP isn't giving specifics doesn't mean they don't know something. Yes, it sucks that parents are called on to rat each other out, but OSSE doesn't do a good job of finding residency cheaters. There's no danger that a grandparent or babysitter is going to be mistaken for a genuine fraud.

OP, report and move on. They may be legit, maybe not.

This. Report and move on. If it's all good, no harm, foul. I'm legitimately enrolled at a HRCS. If someone called to say I was reported I'd say come on over to my house and have a look, or give them a copy of whatever proof they needed. Done. We live in a city with very limited resources where people have to be vultures to make sure their kid isn't cheated. I get it. Investigate me. Big deal in light of the circumstances. Remember people, honest people have nothing to hide. Also, after enough cheaters get called out, they'll stop. Something has to get this going.

Finally, a reasonable response on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, please. Just because the OP isn't giving specifics doesn't mean they don't know something. Yes, it sucks that parents are called on to rat each other out, but OSSE doesn't do a good job of finding residency cheaters. There's no danger that a grandparent or babysitter is going to be mistaken for a genuine fraud.

OP, report and move on. They may be legit, maybe not.

This. Report and move on. If it's all good, no harm, foul. I'm legitimately enrolled at a HRCS. If someone called to say I was reported I'd say come on over to my house and have a look, or give them a copy of whatever proof they needed. Done. We live in a city with very limited resources where people have to be vultures to make sure their kid isn't cheated. I get it. Investigate me. Big deal in light of the circumstances. Remember people, honest people have nothing to hide. Also, after enough cheaters get called out, they'll stop. Something has to get this going.

Finally, a reasonable response on this thread.

+1

[Anonymous]

Just curious... And this is a serious question though it does sound snarky and will likely get backlash, but I'd like to understand.
As liberals, we are usually in support of undocumented workers attending our schools, receiving services, and potentially taking slots from so called "legal" residents. Yet, locally, when it impacts us such as in the case with this post (ie legal vs illegal residency) why do we put aside our open and inclusive beliefs when it is in our own local community? Don't you think we should lead by example?
I know this is not an apples to apples comparison, but the underlying issues are the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious... And this is a serious question though it does sound snarky and will likely get backlash, but I'd like to understand.
As liberals, we are usually in support of undocumented workers attending our schools, receiving services, and potentially taking slots from so called "legal" residents. Yet, locally, when it impacts us such as in the case with this post (ie legal vs illegal residency) why do we put aside our open and inclusive beliefs when it is in our own local community? Don't you think we should lead by example?
I know this is not an apples to apples comparison, but the underlying issues are the same.

So true.

[Anonymous]

I am extremely pro immigration but I'm so pissed off at residency cheaters. My IB school is horrible for middle school and with no chance at Deal I spent $90,000 for private. So a MD Chester who took my spot cost me a ton of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious... And this is a serious question though it does sound snarky and will likely get backlash, but I'd like to understand.
As liberals, we are usually in support of undocumented workers attending our schools, receiving services, and potentially taking slots from so called "legal" residents. Yet, locally, when it impacts us such as in the case with this post (ie legal vs illegal residency) why do we put aside our open and inclusive beliefs when it is in our own local community? Don't you think we should lead by example?
I know this is not an apples to apples comparison, but the underlying issues are the same.

In my case, it's because I perceive undocumented workers to be impoverished with few choices. Illegal immigrants generally also pay taxes via witholding that they can never claim.I perceive residency cheaters to be those suburban people who make fun of DC residents for paying high taxes, and then suddenly want the services generated by those taxes without contributing anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious... And this is a serious question though it does sound snarky and will likely get backlash, but I'd like to understand.
As liberals, we are usually in support of undocumented workers attending our schools, receiving services, and potentially taking slots from so called "legal" residents. Yet, locally, when it impacts us such as in the case with this post (ie legal vs illegal residency) why do we put aside our open and inclusive beliefs when it is in our own local community? Don't you think we should lead by example?
I know this is not an apples to apples comparison, but the underlying issues are the same.

So true.

I disagree. No support educating all children regardless of immigration status but not regardless of how the rules apply to where they physically live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Report them. Jeez.

Also, how do you know that they don't live in the house where they say they live? Who does live in that house?

I'm divorced and my child's father and I live in different school districts. Is it possible that something like that is going on here and you are simply not aware?

I know because I live on the block. They categorically do not live in the house they claim to live in.

I haven't scrolled through all the pages of comments. Have you reported them yet OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, please. Just because the OP isn't giving specifics doesn't mean they don't know something. Yes, it sucks that parents are called on to rat each other out, but OSSE doesn't do a good job of finding residency cheaters. There's no danger that a grandparent or babysitter is going to be mistaken for a genuine fraud.

OP, report and move on. They may be legit, maybe not.

This. Report and move on. If it's all good, no harm, foul. I'm legitimately enrolled at a HRCS. If someone called to say I was reported I'd say come on over to my house and have a look, or give them a copy of whatever proof they needed. Done. We live in a city with very limited resources where people have to be vultures to make sure their kid isn't cheated. I get it. Investigate me. Big deal in light of the circumstances. Remember people, honest people have nothing to hide. Also, after enough cheaters get called out, they'll stop. Something has to get this going.

Finally, a reasonable response on this thread.

+1

X 1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious... And this is a serious question though it does sound snarky and will likely get backlash, but I'd like to understand.
As liberals, we are usually in support of undocumented workers attending our schools, receiving services, and potentially taking slots from so called "legal" residents. Yet, locally, when it impacts us such as in the case with this post (ie legal vs illegal residency) why do we put aside our open and inclusive beliefs when it is in our own local community? Don't you think we should lead by example?
I know this is not an apples to apples comparison, but the underlying issues are the same.

Girl, what you talking about. Do you really think they want the illegal/undocumented immigrants at Janney. They don't mind educating the kids, just not with their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious... And this is a serious question though it does sound snarky and will likely get backlash, but I'd like to understand.
As liberals, we are usually in support of undocumented workers attending our schools, receiving services, and potentially taking slots from so called "legal" residents. Yet, locally, when it impacts us such as in the case with this post (ie legal vs illegal residency) why do we put aside our open and inclusive beliefs when it is in our own local community? Don't you think we should lead by example?
I know this is not an apples to apples comparison, but the underlying issues are the same.

Sure, this one is easy.

I am in favor of the children of undocumented migrants using the school, health and other systems while they are here. No-one gains from having a bunch of kids roaming the streets. It's the humane thing to do, it's the self-interested thing to do, we're rich enough as a country to afford it, and part of this wealth comes from the same immigrants, as others have pointed out.

I also support increased deportations, increased investigation of immigration status, increased border security.

Basically, this is Obama's position. It's rational to simultaneously want to see the kids educated and healthy while here, while also wanting to see the family deported ASAP, where the education can continue in the home country.

For the residency cheaters, the kid gets an American education either way, and I bet that in a lot of residency cheating cases, the "sending school" isn't even that bad, it's just not as good as the "receiving school". I see no compelling policy reason to be lenient and allow people to subvert the sensible and fair rules that are in place. If we want more OOB, we can use set-asides, as proposed by the DME, and people can apply fair and square.

To summarize, it's the difference between a kid having access to ANY school (undocumented migrants) versus having access to a school in a more expensive neighborhood versus a less expensive one.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the pp.'s , as liberals we should all give up our slots to illegal immigrants. Its time to practice what we preach!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious... And this is a serious question though it does sound snarky and will likely get backlash, but I'd like to understand.
As liberals, we are usually in support of undocumented workers attending our schools, receiving services, and potentially taking slots from so called "legal" residents. Yet, locally, when it impacts us such as in the case with this post (ie legal vs illegal residency) why do we put aside our open and inclusive beliefs when it is in our own local community? Don't you think we should lead by example?
I know this is not an apples to apples comparison, but the underlying issues are the same.

Sure, this one is easy.

I am in favor of the children of undocumented migrants using the school, health and other systems while they are here. No-one gains from having a bunch of kids roaming the streets. It's the humane thing to do, it's the self-interested thing to do, we're rich enough as a country to afford it, and part of this wealth comes from the same immigrants, as others have pointed out.

I also support increased deportations, increased investigation of immigration status, increased border security.

Basically, this is Obama's position. It's rational to simultaneously want to see the kids educated and healthy while here, while also wanting to see the family deported ASAP, where the education can continue in the home country.

For the residency cheaters, the kid gets an American education either way, and I bet that in a lot of residency cheating cases, the "sending school" isn't even that bad, it's just not as good as the "receiving school". I see no compelling policy reason to be lenient and allow people to subvert the sensible and fair rules that are in place. If we want more OOB, we can use set-asides, as proposed by the DME, and people can apply fair and square.

To summarize, it's the difference between a kid having access to ANY school (undocumented migrants) versus having access to a school in a more expensive neighborhood versus a less expensive one.

Your reply reveals your fear. I don't blame/find fault with anyone tryng to ensure that their kids get a good education . Whether they are escaping hondouras or Anacistia.
And not to nitpick- but if you live in DC and pay DC taxes it's NOT residency fraud. The applicable regulations say nothing about school assignment- just wether or not you live in the DC boundaries. And before you jump all over it, I am not a 'cheat'. We homeschool, which I am sure makes me the lowest of the low.