residency cheater in Janney PK.

[Anonymous]

My understanding as a Janney parent is that families who lie about their address are dismissed from the school. Those who legitimately live in the neighborhood and then move elsewhere in the city are allowed to stay. Also, by all accounts the principal is greatly in favor of allowing OOB kids to attend the school. She is their biggest advocate. However, she doesn't tolerate deceit. It's not fair to the kids and families from OOB who do play by the rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its not creepy. If you were in-bound for Janney, a school that has had two expansions in the last three years due to overcrowding, you would wonder too when you see all the Maryland license plates in the morning. They are not looking up a four year old, they are looking up the child's family address.

Janney is on the MOCO boundary. I can't I,imagine someone from Bethesda or Rockville cheating to get a spot at Janney. I also cannot imagine someone schlepping an hour plus from PG to upper northwest during rush hour and then downtown to work. I am not buying it.

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The favorable before and after care program is a big draw for parents outside the District who work in DC. Some of the fraudsters may be DC government workers themselves. It may be easier to fly under the radar at schools other than Janney, but someone may figure if you're gonna' take the risk of cheating, why not aim high?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The car that drops them off is not the car in the driveway. How much more proof is needed?

That's all you got?

What about a babysitter? Grandparent? Carpool?

Look, you can excuse it all you want, but I am going to the authorities.

NP.

So why make a thread about it, dram queen? Are you that bored? Make the call and move on with your life.

You mean drama queen. Perhaps a "dram queen" is a gay Scotch aficionado.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The car that drops them off is not the car in the driveway. How much more proof is needed?

That's all you got?

What about a babysitter? Grandparent? Carpool?

Look, you can excuse it all you want, but I am going to the authorities.

NP.

So why make a thread about it, dram queen? Are you that bored? Make the call and move on with your life.

You mean drama queen. Perhaps a "dram queen" is a gay Scotch aficionado.

or Queen Elizabeth II, unless the Scots declare independence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The car that drops them off is not the car in the driveway. How much more proof is needed?

That's all you got?

What about a babysitter? Grandparent? Carpool?

Look, you can excuse it all you want, but I am going to the authorities.

NP.

So why make a thread about it, dram queen? Are you that bored? Make the call and move on with your life.

You mean drama queen. Perhaps a "dram queen" is a gay Scotch aficionado.

or Queen Elizabeth II, unless the Scots declare independence.

it seems that even of they do, they still keep the Queen, go figure

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that once a child is enrolled in a school, he or she can keep that enrollment throughout the entire school year even if the parents move. The following year, they'd have to register in the new location where the parents are living.

children can stay and matriculate through the feeder pattern even if they move out of boundary. the do not have to leave the next school year.

This is not DCPS policy.

DCPS policy is that if you start the year at your in-boundary school, and move mid-year within DC, you can finish out the year at your first school. For the next year you have to apply through the OOB lottery. However, principals have discretion to admit kids OOB, and many will routinely make an exception to accept former IB kids, even at overcrowded schools.

OOB kids who move during the school year within DC don't change their status.

While every year a few kids from other states get the boot, I have never heard of DCPS sanctioning a family who lived in DC for providing a false address. Others may have their own stories.

What's important to realize is that within the DC government boundary cheaters are an important constituency. It's one of the ways that DCPS inoculates itself against change. I've heard that China has a similar system of state-funded schools for the political elite.

I have worked for DCPS for years, and we do not ask families to leave if they move mid year. So yes, maybe this differs throughout schools because of the Principal's discretion policy, but we do not make them re-apply as OOB. Once you're in, your're in. Falsifying residency, however, is a totally different story that isn't taken lightly. Because PreK is not a mandatory school age, there is no "right to attend" even if you're in boundary. However, of course IB w/ sibling take first priority, then IB, then OOB w/sibling. However, in the more "in demand"...higher populated schools, many times there is still a wait list of IB families for PreK that may not be accomodated, but have guaranteed placement in Kindergarten.

If ever there's a question or doubt about residency, it's always recommended to report it directly to the school. Or not. Choice is yours.

Please report it! The only way that we stamp out the old culture that says it's ok to cheat to get what you need in DC, is to speak out and do something. That culture extends all the way from the mayor's office (the shadow campaign funded illegally) through the council (three former members and a candidate convicted in the past two years) though school enrollment. Unlike the political variety, where the impact may be more indirect, cheating on DCPS residency takes the spot that would have gone to some one else legitimately, takes scarce resources and takes from the taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

I think you all should band together and plan a stakeout of the house in question. Then make a citizen's arrest!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you all should band together and plan a stakeout of the house in question. Then make a citizen's arrest!

But the Perps don't actually live at that address, according to the story. In order to make a proper citizen's arrest, someone would have to tail the Maryland tag, follow them to Maryland (in order to verify they actually live in Maryland), and then perform the citizen's arrest when they re-appear at school the next day. That is, the citizen's arrest wouldn't actually work in Maryland because it would be an out-of-jurisdiction arrest. Of course, in support of the arrest, you would have to admit to tailing them and that would make you a stalker. On second thought, maybe it would be better to make a report to the Principal. Or, better yet, why not try to strike up a conversation with the alleged Perps before doing anything else, if you can corner them before they run away, and interrogate them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you all should band together and plan a stakeout of the house in question. Then make a citizen's arrest!

But the Perps don't actually live at that address, according to the story. In order to make a proper citizen's arrest, someone would have to tail the Maryland tag, follow them to Maryland (in order to verify they actually live in Maryland), and then perform the citizen's arrest when they re-appear at school the next day. That is, the citizen's arrest wouldn't actually work in Maryland because it would be an out-of-jurisdiction arrest. Of course, in support of the arrest, you would have to admit to tailing them and that would make you a stalker. On second thought, maybe it would be better to make a report to the Principal. Or, better yet, why not try to strike up a conversation with the alleged Perps before doing anything else, if you can corner them before they run away, and interrogate them.

Take their photo and a photo of their car plates. A PI or a friend in law enforcement can run them for an address.

[Anonymous]

I bet that people's views on residency cheating mirror their views on illegal immigration.

Doves, who downplay the importance/impact of the problem, tend to lean liberal, feel empathy or sympathy with the offenders, and maybe see it as a means to equalize opportunities in an unfair world.

Hawks have sympathy/empathy for those who are cheated, object to the bad incentives that are created, and emphasize personal responsibility, integrity, and respect for legal and property rights.

And then there are the cheaters and their friends and families, who may also post here!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a family who is lying about their address who just started Janney PK.
They claim to live in a house in the neighborhood that they do not live in.
A google search reveals that they either live elsewhere DC or in PG county.

What to do?
There were approx 40 kids inboundary on the PK waitlist and several other hundred city-wide who wanted this spot.

Which one is it? Are you purely speculating?

If their AA, they can only live in wards 4, 7, 8 or PG county. AA don't live in MoCo.

[Anonymous]

So if you live on a block in the Janney district - a block with driveways no less! - you are wealthy, no? Why are wealthy people getting free pre-K?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if you live on a block in the Janney district - a block with driveways no less! - you are wealthy, no? Why are wealthy people getting free pre-K?

Because they pay taxes for it like most other DC residents (except those who live in MD).

[Anonymous]

If the family is newly homeless, Janey can't kick the kid out.... ijs.

Also, the A-Z directory may just be...

..wrong.

low paid govt workers sometimes are.

[Anonymous]

Then build Janney it's own free standing ECE already...they do pay taxes...