The men who think they're protecting women's bathrooms/locker rooms/spaces etc

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Are girls in men's rooms washing their hands at the urinal? Wondering how this risk of being flashed is suddenly so great yet we send little boys in their with no qualms.

No WE dont send little boys into mens room without a parent.

Never? Why is it ok for your boy to see a penis at the urinal even if dad is there?

My husband takes my son into the men's restroom. I take him into the women's. It's about the buddy system and safety not seeing a penis for a boy. For a girl, seeing a full grown mans penis is very different from seeing a baby brother penis during a diaper change.

So, why can't the girls be in the men's restroom? Buddy system still applies. How are the girls seeing a penis exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

The fact that you'd rather expose a 5 year old to a stranger's penis than simply walk by a man who is helping his daughters is all we need to know.

4 year olds are also the type to wander off and go "hey what are you doing" to the stranger while Dad's washing the other kid's hands. The guys at the urinal don't have to be doing anything wrong.

Oh I agree. The dad made the right decision.

He made the right decision for HIS daughters, which was the wrong decision for other people’s daughters. His children are accompanied by only the parent of the opposite sex, so if somebody’s going to be inconvenienced by that, it should be his kids, not the kids who should be entitled to privacy from the opposite sex in their sex segregated restroom.

Nope, he made the right decision for everyone. If you want total privacy, stay at home.

His family can stay home. They’re the ones who don’t neatly fit into either the “men’s” or “women’s” restroom category. Or they can seek out family or unisex restrooms. See, telling people to stay home isn’t really a solution, is it?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Are girls in men's rooms washing their hands at the urinal? Wondering how this risk of being flashed is suddenly so great yet we send little boys in their with no qualms.

No WE dont send little boys into mens room without a parent.

Never? Why is it ok for your boy to see a penis at the urinal even if dad is there?

My husband takes my son into the men's restroom. I take him into the women's. It's about the buddy system and safety not seeing a penis for a boy. For a girl, seeing a full grown mans penis is very different from seeing a baby brother penis during a diaper change.

So, why can't the girls be in the men's restroom? Buddy system still applies. How are the girls seeing a penis exactly?

At a certain age yes girls can be sent in together. Not for this example of 4 y/o. Do you have kids?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Are girls in men's rooms washing their hands at the urinal? Wondering how this risk of being flashed is suddenly so great yet we send little boys in their with no qualms.

No WE dont send little boys into mens room without a parent.

Never? Why is it ok for your boy to see a penis at the urinal even if dad is there?

My husband takes my son into the men's restroom. I take him into the women's. It's about the buddy system and safety not seeing a penis for a boy. For a girl, seeing a full grown mans penis is very different from seeing a baby brother penis during a diaper change.

So, why can't the girls be in the men's restroom? Buddy system still applies. How are the girls seeing a penis exactly?

Why can't their father take them to the women's restroom? What do you think is going to happen to you, Susan?

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty weird the dad took his kids to the women's bathroom. Take them to the men's restroom. The reaction was unnecessary but really esh

+1 The grown man should be in the men’s restroom and his young children should accompany him. The bathroom of choice isn’t determined by one’s 4 year old. 4 year old boys with their moms should be in the women’s restrooms. That’s how it works.

I don't understand why grown women in stalls are considered more vulnerable than little girls in a room with open urinals.

Dad's choice to use the more private bathroom is legitimate.

No, it’s not, because he doesn’t belong in there. If it’s a unisex bathroom, fine, have at it, but if it’s a ladies’ room, he doesn’t belong in there.

So why do the little girls belong in the men's restroom then?

You can make a different call for yourself but I think Dad deciding he doesn't want his daughters in the with urinals is a legitimate choice.

No one has articulated why a Dad at the sinks woth his daughter's poses any problem to anyone. Because it's ridiculous.

Many, many women don’t want men in the WOMEN’S restroom. People have to take their kids places, so little kids accompany their parents. No little girls pose a threat to grown men. Some grown men do pose threats to little girls and women. Are you new on earth?

Yes, so why should Dad take his daughters into the place where men are in open urinals. Why do the little girls have to be in the open room with men with their pants open versus the women behind private stalls?

If you see a guy washing his daughter's hands and think he's a scary predator, you have serious issues and need therapy.

The girls aren't using the urinals so there's nothing to see.

And the women in the stalls peeing are in no way threatened by a father helping his daughters. Get over yourself.

Normal guys don't do this, hate to break it to you.

Normal women don't feel threatened at the sight of a man because some politician told them to be scared. Idiot.

It's never women either, always white knighting men (who end up harassing women).

What?! No, that's not true.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Goodness. Its not that is damaging, its that there is a safer alternative. You have privacy in the stall. I understand that youve likely been railroaded by men your entire life and havent been able to use your big girl bark for fear of retribution or being excised from the "in group" as a white woman but not protecting 4 year old girls is not it lady. That is not the hill you die on. You should not be exposing yourself to other people in the womens restroom so what privacy are you referring to? In the mens restroom there is exposure due to the nature of urinals. Men's bathrooms are also usually much more disgusting. Dont get me wrong, the pee on the seat from women who dont sit (IDC if you squat) and then subsequently, clean up after themsleves is gross but not to the level of mens restroom gross. Most men only sit to shi5. So yeahhhh use your imagination.

This is nonsense. You don't see penises in men's rooms the vast majority of the time.

What do you see when you walk into a women's restroom full of stalls with closed doors?

The doors aren't always closed, FYI. I have seen them open many many times with a mother helping a young child use the toilet. But dad is the only one who has needs to be considered in this warped scenario, apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

The fact that you'd rather expose a 5 year old to a stranger's penis than simply walk by a man who is helping his daughters is all we need to know.

4 year olds are also the type to wander off and go "hey what are you doing" to the stranger while Dad's washing the other kid's hands. The guys at the urinal don't have to be doing anything wrong.

Oh I agree. The dad made the right decision.

He made the right decision for HIS daughters, which was the wrong decision for other people’s daughters. His children are accompanied by only the parent of the opposite sex, so if somebody’s going to be inconvenienced by that, it should be his kids, not the kids who should be entitled to privacy from the opposite sex in their sex segregated restroom.

Nope, he made the right decision for everyone. If you want total privacy, stay at home.

His family can stay home. They’re the ones who don’t neatly fit into either the “men’s” or “women’s” restroom category. Or they can seek out family or unisex restrooms. See, telling people to stay home isn’t really a solution, is it?

HAHA No dear. They weren't bothering anyone. You're the one demanding total privacy and the only way to get that is to stay at home.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

This whole conversation is weird. A man helping his kids in the women's room is threatening, but neither is accidentally seeing a penis. Penises are just body parts.

Which is why I think most people are fine with Dad making the call and just taking his kids to the bathroom wherever. The problem is getting worked up over that choice.

Yeah, nomal intelligent people are fine with dads doing this. MAGA lunatics, not so much.

I think some people just want an excuse to fight.

But seriously I'm a mom, public bathrooms are hard with young kids (my oldest kid was absolutely terrified of hand blowers). Just do what you need to do to avoid your kid peeing their pants. I really don't care and neither should anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Goodness. Its not that is damaging, its that there is a safer alternative. You have privacy in the stall. I understand that youve likely been railroaded by men your entire life and havent been able to use your big girl bark for fear of retribution or being excised from the "in group" as a white woman but not protecting 4 year old girls is not it lady. That is not the hill you die on. You should not be exposing yourself to other people in the womens restroom so what privacy are you referring to? In the mens restroom there is exposure due to the nature of urinals. Men's bathrooms are also usually much more disgusting. Dont get me wrong, the pee on the seat from women who dont sit (IDC if you squat) and then subsequently, clean up after themsleves is gross but not to the level of mens restroom gross. Most men only sit to shi5. So yeahhhh use your imagination.

This is nonsense. You don't see penises in men's rooms the vast majority of the time.

Okay well as long as its not the vast majority and also grown men and women talking about how penises arent seen thats because you arent looking and its not at your eye level. FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Are girls in men's rooms washing their hands at the urinal? Wondering how this risk of being flashed is suddenly so great yet we send little boys in their with no qualms.

No WE dont send little boys into mens room without a parent.

Never? Why is it ok for your boy to see a penis at the urinal even if dad is there?

My husband takes my son into the men's restroom. I take him into the women's. It's about the buddy system and safety not seeing a penis for a boy. For a girl, seeing a full grown mans penis is very different from seeing a baby brother penis during a diaper change.

So, why can't the girls be in the men's restroom? Buddy system still applies. How are the girls seeing a penis exactly?

Why can't their father take them to the women's restroom? What do you think is going to happen to you, Susan?

What's going to happen to the girl in the men's room, Barb?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Goodness. Its not that is damaging, its that there is a safer alternative. You have privacy in the stall. I understand that youve likely been railroaded by men your entire life and havent been able to use your big girl bark for fear of retribution or being excised from the "in group" as a white woman but not protecting 4 year old girls is not it lady. That is not the hill you die on. You should not be exposing yourself to other people in the womens restroom so what privacy are you referring to? In the mens restroom there is exposure due to the nature of urinals. Men's bathrooms are also usually much more disgusting. Dont get me wrong, the pee on the seat from women who dont sit (IDC if you squat) and then subsequently, clean up after themsleves is gross but not to the level of mens restroom gross. Most men only sit to shi5. So yeahhhh use your imagination.

This is nonsense. You don't see penises in men's rooms the vast majority of the time.

What do you see when you walk into a women's restroom full of stalls with closed doors?

The doors aren't always closed, FYI. I have seen them open many many times with a mother helping a young child use the toilet. But dad is the only one who has needs to be considered in this warped scenario, apparently.

HAHAHAHA so you want special consideration because you choose not to use the door and the privacy provided to you. What kind of lunacy is this?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

The fact that you'd rather expose a 5 year old to a stranger's penis than simply walk by a man who is helping his daughters is all we need to know.

4 year olds are also the type to wander off and go "hey what are you doing" to the stranger while Dad's washing the other kid's hands. The guys at the urinal don't have to be doing anything wrong.

Oh I agree. The dad made the right decision.

He made the right decision for HIS daughters, which was the wrong decision for other people’s daughters. His children are accompanied by only the parent of the opposite sex, so if somebody’s going to be inconvenienced by that, it should be his kids, not the kids who should be entitled to privacy from the opposite sex in their sex segregated restroom.

Nope, he made the right decision for everyone. If you want total privacy, stay at home.

His family can stay home. They’re the ones who don’t neatly fit into either the “men’s” or “women’s” restroom category. Or they can seek out family or unisex restrooms. See, telling people to stay home isn’t really a solution, is it?

HAHA No dear. They weren't bothering anyone. You're the one demanding total privacy and the only way to get that is to stay at home.

This all started because they did bother someone.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Goodness. Its not that is damaging, its that there is a safer alternative. You have privacy in the stall. I understand that youve likely been railroaded by men your entire life and havent been able to use your big girl bark for fear of retribution or being excised from the "in group" as a white woman but not protecting 4 year old girls is not it lady. That is not the hill you die on. You should not be exposing yourself to other people in the womens restroom so what privacy are you referring to? In the mens restroom there is exposure due to the nature of urinals. Men's bathrooms are also usually much more disgusting. Dont get me wrong, the pee on the seat from women who dont sit (IDC if you squat) and then subsequently, clean up after themsleves is gross but not to the level of mens restroom gross. Most men only sit to shi5. So yeahhhh use your imagination.

This is nonsense. You don't see penises in men's rooms the vast majority of the time.

What do you see when you walk into a women's restroom full of stalls with closed doors?

The doors aren't always closed, FYI. I have seen them open many many times with a mother helping a young child use the toilet. But dad is the only one who has needs to be considered in this warped scenario, apparently.

?? You see moms choosing to keep the door open and expose their kids to strangers?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Goodness. Its not that is damaging, its that there is a safer alternative. You have privacy in the stall. I understand that youve likely been railroaded by men your entire life and havent been able to use your big girl bark for fear of retribution or being excised from the "in group" as a white woman but not protecting 4 year old girls is not it lady. That is not the hill you die on. You should not be exposing yourself to other people in the womens restroom so what privacy are you referring to? In the mens restroom there is exposure due to the nature of urinals. Men's bathrooms are also usually much more disgusting. Dont get me wrong, the pee on the seat from women who dont sit (IDC if you squat) and then subsequently, clean up after themsleves is gross but not to the level of mens restroom gross. Most men only sit to shi5. So yeahhhh use your imagination.

This is nonsense. You don't see penises in men's rooms the vast majority of the time.

What do you see when you walk into a women's restroom full of stalls with closed doors?

The doors aren't always closed, FYI. I have seen them open many many times with a mother helping a young child use the toilet. But dad is the only one who has needs to be considered in this warped scenario, apparently.

HAHAHAHA so you want special consideration because you choose not to use the door and the privacy provided to you. What kind of lunacy is this?

Hahaha says the person who clearly has never been in a women's restroom with tiny stalls.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy seems like a jerk, but I also don't want men in the bathroom. I want to be able to complain to management when there is one and for them to politely be asked to leave, despite their claimed personal identity.

Shhh! Someone will hear you, and you’ll be tarred and feathered as an irredeemable bigot.

Hah, and agreed. OP is clearly trying to turn this into a gotcha moment against people with legitimate and genuine concerns.

On a similar theme, at my local Y, which is very nice, there is a separate locker room just for boys, including teen boys. So there's a men's changing room/bathroom, women's changing room/bathroom, a family changing room/bathroom, and a boys changing room/bathroom. There isn't one for girls. And we all know why, don't we? It doesn't mean the vast majority of men are perfectly decent and trustworthy but there are some out there who are not.

Thats weird......
Itd be better if all places just had family restrooms but they dont.

You are familiar with the concept of leering men, aren't you? Old females aren't leering at young teen girls in changing rooms. What is weird is people who pretend this doesn't happen.

So... let's bring little girls into men's rooms?

Your logic isn't working.

The only little girls who would be in men’s rooms would have their dads there to protect them. Nobody’s bothering them.

So... one Dad with kids in a place where there are stalls = scary aaaaaa.

A restroom full of men with open urinals = "Dad has nothing to worry about with his daughters."

Yeah... nope.

So because men are bad, men should take kids into the women's restroom. Now we have a man in the women's restroom. How does that solve any problems? He's likely a urinal user so why is he suddenly a good guy?

Apparently, it’s so damaging for a little girl to potentially see a penis that we should invite men into women’s restrooms so women have no expectation of privacy from men anywhere.

Are girls in men's rooms washing their hands at the urinal? Wondering how this risk of being flashed is suddenly so great yet we send little boys in their with no qualms.

No WE dont send little boys into mens room without a parent.

Never? Why is it ok for your boy to see a penis at the urinal even if dad is there?

My husband takes my son into the men's restroom. I take him into the women's. It's about the buddy system and safety not seeing a penis for a boy. For a girl, seeing a full grown mans penis is very different from seeing a baby brother penis during a diaper change.

So, why can't the girls be in the men's restroom? Buddy system still applies. How are the girls seeing a penis exactly?

Why can't their father take them to the women's restroom? What do you think is going to happen to you, Susan?

What's going to happen to the girl in the men's room, Barb?

What is going to happen to you? You're the adult. Answer the question.