JLG vs McDuffie on public schools

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Anonymous wrote:One of her signature issues is promoting the use of computers in the classroom. If you think there's not enough screentime at school, she's your candidate.

This might be disinfo. I read it as promoting *access* to devices, like if we're going to be using digital content of learning, every school and every student should have functioning devices not just the ones with well-resources and vocal parents. Not that she's pushing for the whole curriculum PK-12 to be run by computer. She recently called for ending the i-Ready contract.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

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This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

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Gary Goodweather.

https://www.goodweatherfordc.com/issues/issue-2?source=970ada09-bc4f-4b61-8268-38feef064457

Does he have any experience in political leadership?

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She hates charters with a passion and supports a plan their funding by $9k+ per child.



I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.

I would love to know if these Ward 4 and 5 parents are generational AA middle class DC or highly educated white progressives with extremely young children. If the latter, they are living in a fantasy land if they think that killing charters will force parents to send their kids to Coolidge, Roosevelt, Wells, etc. They are also the demographic most likely to pick up and move WOTP or to VA or MD or private when they realize that their local DCPS is failing their kid. For years middle class AA families in DC sent their kids to affordable Catholic privates or OOB WOTP schools. When the WOTP schools became desirable for in-bound families, thus decreasing the number of OOB slots, those same AA families embraced the charter sector. JLG is primed to kill the charter sector. She may have engaged with Ward 4 regular DCPS but she has avoided charters located in Ward 4.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

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This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

Nyc opened hybrid Fall 2020. No reason we couldnt except the'0 WTU and the council who wanted their votes. We opened fall 2021. By fall 2020 we 100% understood how it spread and how to mitigate it's spread and who was at risk and who wasn't. Everything in this city was open fall 2020 except schools. You could go to a bar, a restaurant, a movie, a skating rink. But schools closed. It destroyed a generation. AI and ed tech will finish them off. Current elementary school kids have a shot at putting things back together in 20 years if we can deal with the screens in classrooms.'

[Anonymous]

did you actually watch the video???

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Anonymous wrote:If you enjoy having your kid attend only 4 days a week and half days, then JLG is your #1 choice. Janeese is all in for "flexible scheduling". So what is flexible scheduling, you might ask? Get ready for more asynchronous days, 3-day weekends, 4-day weekends, tech days, packet days, enrichment days, independent learning days, camp days, early dismissal days, rotating drop-off days, and teacher office-hours-only days, with fewer actual normal days.

https://www.weareempowered.org/flexiblescheduling.html


https://www.weareempowered.org/uploads/2/6/1/...ling_for_schools.pdf

WTF

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

I'm not re-writing history at all. I agree that in retrospect schools should have and could have opened earlier and that kids were hurt and still are by the decision.

But hindsight is 20/20, WTU wasn't the only union to make that mistake, and it's unfair and says a lot about you if you really think the WTU took the position that it did because "teachers didn't want to work." That just means you really do hate teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you enjoy having your kid attend only 4 days a week and half days, then JLG is your #1 choice. Janeese is all in for "flexible scheduling". So what is flexible scheduling, you might ask? Get ready for more asynchronous days, 3-day weekends, 4-day weekends, tech days, packet days, enrichment days, independent learning days, camp days, early dismissal days, rotating drop-off days, and teacher office-hours-only days, with fewer actual normal days.

https://www.weareempowered.org/flexiblescheduling.html


https://www.weareempowered.org/uploads/2/6/1/...ling_for_schools.pdf

Nothing she says in the video is problematic that I heard, and I listened to the whole thing. There was 0 discussion of asynchronous learning, just field trip type learning. I agree the empower DC document on flexible scheduling is YIKES. But I first heard of this document fall 2021 or 2022 at the latest, so i am pretty sure it is a non-issue now.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

I'm not re-writing history at all. I agree that in retrospect schools should have and could have opened earlier and that kids were hurt and still are by the decision.

But hindsight is 20/20, WTU wasn't the only union to make that mistake, and it's unfair and says a lot about you if you really think the WTU took the position that it did because "teachers didn't want to work." That just means you really do hate teachers.

no hindsight was necessary. everyone knew at the time it was a terrible mistake. wtu didn't care.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

I'm not re-writing history at all. I agree that in retrospect schools should have and could have opened earlier and that kids were hurt and still are by the decision.

But hindsight is 20/20, WTU wasn't the only union to make that mistake, and it's unfair and says a lot about you if you really think the WTU took the position that it did because "teachers didn't want to work." That just means you really do hate teachers.

spring 2020 yes. Fall 2021 maybe. By December 2020 it was clear. It wasn't hindsight by then. Atlanta open, NYC open. Those are just two urban districts I know about. Most school districts across the country open. The data was there by then. Common sense mitigation strategies and asynchronous learning/teaching available for those who were at risk and those who lived with people at risk. Boom. Done. Yet DC would wait till fall 2021 except for a few rich NW schools. Great job WTU. For what it is worth, I 100% do not believe that teachers didn't want to work. I am not sure what happened - some kind of them against us group think. But no way do we want a mayor that buys into WTU group think. I will likely still vote for JLG because I am ward 5 and Duffy is a do nothing. But I'd vote for Bowser 100 times over even after her not standing up to trump (trying to save home rule for us - it's a very debatable approach she took. I wouldn't have done it though I understood why she did and appreciate that feels feels like she sacrificed her career to save home rule) because she wanted schools to open. Literally she was the only one in our DC government who wanted that in school year 2020-2021.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

I'm not re-writing history at all. I agree that in retrospect schools should have and could have opened earlier and that kids were hurt and still are by the decision.

But hindsight is 20/20, WTU wasn't the only union to make that mistake, and it's unfair and says a lot about you if you really think the WTU took the position that it did because "teachers didn't want to work." That just means you really do hate teachers.

no hindsight was necessary. everyone knew at the time it was a terrible mistake. wtu didn't care.

The US was a huge outlier in how we approached restrictions for children, childcare, and schools. If you were paying any attention at all to what other developed nations were doing, it was very obvious that we were making some terrible, extremely short sided mistakes.

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The only major city that stayed closed longer, IIRC, was San Francisco. Again, a Union thing. Chicago had a huge fight back and forth as well between union and mayor. Teachers acted like they were going to die on the doorstep.

We failed kids and parents in DC, and it's hard to even think about, still a bit of PTSD from learning how little our city and fellow community members care about our children or parents.

If you had babies back then, or didn't have kids in school, then please sit this debate out because you do NOT know.