JLG vs McDuffie on public schools

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

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This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

I'm not re-writing history at all. I agree that in retrospect schools should have and could have opened earlier and that kids were hurt and still are by the decision.

But hindsight is 20/20, WTU wasn't the only union to make that mistake, and it's unfair and says a lot about you if you really think the WTU took the position that it did because "teachers didn't want to work." That just means you really do hate teachers.

no hindsight was necessary. everyone knew at the time it was a terrible mistake. wtu didn't care.

We spent probably $30,000 during the pandemic sending our kids to a glorified daycare so that we could go to work, money that should have gone into their college savings accounts. The daycare was across the street from our school which was closed because it was supposedly "unsafe."

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And thanks, because now I've decided I won't vote for either JLG or Kenyan. I might just leave the mayoral part blank?

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Anonymous wrote:Not all teachers, but many fail to understand that WTU being adversarial to parent interests to advocate for teacher interests- which is good, this is what a union is for- leads to parents taking an adversarial stance to advocate for their interests.

It’s not hostility it’s just people realizing they need to actively advocate for themselves

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And if parents who oppose the WTU on some issues must "hate teachers" then I guess WTU members who oppose parents on some issues "hate parents." That relationship is a two way street.

If I were a teacher I’d for sure hate parents.

I dislike parents like you, yea.

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Anonymous wrote:She hates charters with a passion and supports a plan their funding by $9k+ per child.

I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.

OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Sorry, but Covid exposed a lot of teacher's unions - including WTU - for what they really are. This is all a lot of BS. And I support unions in general.

Oh please. The teacher's union exists to protect teachers, not students, and teachers didn't want to die. It's not that complicated.

You sound like Trump trying to re-write the history of Jan. 6.

I'm not saying that their fear was justified. Not in hindsight, at least. But lots of people lost their minds in the once-in-100-years pandemic. My real point was that the teachers' union looks out for teachers, not students, and that shouldn't be a surprise to you.

DP. It's not a surprise anymore but this is EXACTLY why many parents have decided to hate the WTU.

During the pandemic, the WTU advocated for teachers over the interests of kids and families. That's their right, but as a parent, I don't have like an organization that advocated for policies that actively hurt my kids. I can hate that organization if I want. And I do! See how that works.

You can't have it both ways. Why would I like or care about an organization that will happily throw my child under the bus?

This is why I can't support JLG. The conduct of WTU during the pandemic was nothing short of evil, and JLG bent over backwards to do WTU's bidding. We need a mayor who will stand up to them.

Exactly. The only reason any DC school reopened was because Bowser did eventually stand up to them. And countrywide, that's how it worked too in major urban centers.

I don't think that hating WTU is the same as "hating teachers" what ridiculousness is that. Not every teacher even agreed with what their union was doing at that time. The fact that others were stepping up as essential workers and teachers were not as per their union's direction will go down in history as shameful.

Also, the politics of unions are such that teachers have to join their union in order to access the pay rates they want and to negotiate. It does not mean they all agree uniformly with every decision made. It also means that we, the parents of schoolchildren, need to push back on this union and the mayor is the one to represent us in doing so.

Someone in this city has to represent the interests of kids and their parents. As we saw most vividly during the pandemic, that's not WTU, and if we have a mayor like JLG who backs WTU 1000 percent of the time, then parents and kids will have no say in anything.

The idea that teachers wanted to stay virtual indefinitely is simply false, and repeating it doesn’t make it true. Most of us were ready to return and we negotiated the terms and came back.

Families have a voice in their children’s education, but that doesn’t mean they have more expertise than the people actually working in these schools. On funding: voting based on accurate information matters, because cuts to DCPS affect real students and real communities.

You’d rather have Duff who would like to see both sectors funding cut. JLG is the best choice, she has a track record of getting things done.

Duff gets nothing done and will be getting contracts for family members. Corrupt and he hasn’t even won.

18 months later. They wanted to be back in person so strongly they were one of the last to return!

I emailed JLG when she co sponsored the bill to close schools fall 2021 if covid cases hit a certain threshold. She never emailed back. It is hard for me to vote for her, but, on the other hand, Bowser did want schools open hybrid fall/winter 2020 (along with the majority of school in the US) and got nowhere. Eventually she had to settle for letting individual schools decide which meant that rich NW schools opened hybrid spring 2021 and all other schools stayed closed for 18 months. So what kind of power would JLC have to close or open schools either?

The alternative scheduling stuff is scary especially for younger kids and especially for kids in unsafe, chaotic home enviroments. At best, a lot of kids at home would be on youtube shorts all day. At worst there would be midday spikes in petty crime. Plus anytime time going to school seems optional then chronic truency spikes.

DC empower is one of the worst organizations btw. Except for some of their anti-racism stuff.

Are you a teacher, no? Then sit down. We negotiated way before that and Bowser basically said, ‘FU.’ We could have been back much earlier -she gave into 90% of our REASONABLE demands anyway.

Right back at ya with Duff. He has t had any kind of track record other than getting nothing done and not caring about schools. Now it’s clear he aims to finically benefit if he wins.

As a teacher, I’m not even a huge JLG fan OR as a parent. However, I’ll never vote for a man who takes his personal interest above public interests and switches tactics when he thinks it will make him popular.

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I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.


OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

the JLG supporters are rather Trumpian in their "fake news" / "garbage posting" type rhetoric. JLG wants to cut charter funding by $9K per student. That IS negatively impacting charters. Under JLG the charter sector will experience death by a thousand cuts. Cut the funding, require additional bureaucratic requirement burdens which DCPS does not have under the guise of "transparency" even though the DC Council already passed transparency laws applicable to charters. JLG is in the pocket of the WTU. If that concerns you (and if you are a user of the charter sector, it should) then hold your nose and vote for McDuffie.

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Anonymous wrote:She hates charters with a passion and supports a plan their funding by $9k+ per child.

I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.

OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

They are afraid he will lose. When people are worried they often take the low ground - fear-mongering and lying.

We do not have any stellar options but based on JLG’s track record in W4, she will be a better choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

I'm not re-writing history at all. I agree that in retrospect schools should have and could have opened earlier and that kids were hurt and still are by the decision.

But hindsight is 20/20, WTU wasn't the only union to make that mistake, and it's unfair and says a lot about you if you really think the WTU took the position that it did because "teachers didn't want to work." That just means you really do hate teachers.

no hindsight was necessary. everyone knew at the time it was a terrible mistake. wtu didn't care.

We spent probably $30,000 during the pandemic sending our kids to a glorified daycare so that we could go to work, money that should have gone into their college savings accounts. The daycare was across the street from our school which was closed because it was supposedly "unsafe."

Yea, we know. This is the real reason you were so pissed about remote learning. It inconvenienced you and cost you money.

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I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.


OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

the JLG supporters are rather Trumpian in their "fake news" / "garbage posting" type rhetoric. JLG wants to cut charter funding by $9K per student. That IS negatively impacting charters. Under JLG the charter sector will experience death by a thousand cuts. Cut the funding, require additional bureaucratic requirement burdens which DCPS does not have under the guise of "transparency" even though the DC Council already passed transparency laws applicable to charters. JLG is in the pocket of the WTU. If that concerns you (and if you are a user of the charter sector, it should) then hold your nose and vote for McDuffie.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She hates charters with a passion and supports a plan their funding by $9k+ per child.

I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.

OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

They are afraid he will lose. When people are worried they often take the low ground - fear-mongering and lying.

We do not have any stellar options but based on JLG’s track record in W4, she will be a better choice.

Her what now?

-NP and Ward 4 resident

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She hates charters with a passion and supports a plan their funding by $9k+ per child.

I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.

OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

They are afraid he will lose. When people are worried they often take the low ground - fear-mongering and lying.

We do not have any stellar options but based on JLG’s track record in W4, she will be a better choice.

Her what now?

-NP and Ward 4 resident

Ha, sure you are girly pop.

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot vote for any candidate endorsed by the WTU.

So you hate teachers then?

NP. I hate the WTU. I think they are crooked. They are a detriment to our kids' education. I also love teachers.

If you can't differentiate between teachers and the WTU then...you probably collect a paycheck from the WTU.

Teachers are the WTU. So yes you hate teachers.

The self delusion of some people is really astonishing. To claim you don’t hate teachers but hate the WTU is not only wild, but completely divorced from reality. WTU represents 90-95% of DCPS teachers, so if said person is claiming they hate WTU, they definitely hate public school teachers at the very least.

This
This 100 percent. When posters say they hate the union, they mean they want the right to treat teachers like their servants, hover over them like the Gestapo, interfere with their ability to do their jobs, judge them for being successful or failing at what they do notwithstanding that they themselves are no more qualified to judge then vice-versa, and fire them at will. They want the right to be adverse to teachers and not to work in tandem with that. And that means they hate teachers, and that the WTU is necessary to protect teachers from their haters.

Even union people hate teachers unions. Them and police unions are the worst. I remember how the WTU cynically turned the pandemic into the world's longest paid vacation. Our kids are still paying the price.

Why is everyone talking as if DC was the only major city to go remote for so long? It wasn't by a long shot.

And the people who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 were freedom fighters, right?

Please explain how that analogy makes any sense whatsoever.

Rewriting history that we all lived through. You're not fooling anyone. You just look like a huge liar.

I'm not re-writing history at all. I agree that in retrospect schools should have and could have opened earlier and that kids were hurt and still are by the decision.

But hindsight is 20/20, WTU wasn't the only union to make that mistake, and it's unfair and says a lot about you if you really think the WTU took the position that it did because "teachers didn't want to work." That just means you really do hate teachers.

no hindsight was necessary. everyone knew at the time it was a terrible mistake. wtu didn't care.

We spent probably $30,000 during the pandemic sending our kids to a glorified daycare so that we could go to work, money that should have gone into their college savings accounts. The daycare was across the street from our school which was closed because it was supposedly "unsafe."

Yea, we know. This is the real reason you were so pissed about remote learning. It inconvenienced you and cost you money.

Good job completely missing the point.

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I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.


OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

the JLG supporters are rather Trumpian in their "fake news" / "garbage posting" type rhetoric. JLG wants to cut charter funding by $9K per student. That IS negatively impacting charters. Under JLG the charter sector will experience death by a thousand cuts. Cut the funding, require additional bureaucratic requirement burdens which DCPS does not have under the guise of "transparency" even though the DC Council already passed transparency laws applicable to charters. JLG is in the pocket of the WTU. If that concerns you (and if you are a user of the charter sector, it should) then hold your nose and vote for McDuffie.

JLG and her supporters' response to *any* criticism of her record in government is Trump-like in how they go straight to ad hominem attacks.

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Has any candidate expressed any interest in getting much-needed support to advanced learners in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She hates charters with a passion and supports a plan their funding by $9k+ per child.

I think it’s true that JLG as a mayor will negatively impact charters. There is a constituency of Ward 4 and 5 parents plus WTU who believe that charters are now threatening the progress that DCPS has made. They are smart enough to mostly keep their opinions off this message board, but they want EOTP students who are peeling off for the “good” charters to be rerouted into Wells, Coolidge, etc. They’re probably right, but it’s too
soon to unwind the charter school system in DC. And I say this as a gung ho DCPS parent, “low standards” and all.

OK but you cite no evidence other than “I think.”

Just more garbage posting.

They are afraid he will lose. When people are worried they often take the low ground - fear-mongering and lying.

We do not have any stellar options but based on JLG’s track record in W4, she will be a better choice.

Her what now?

-NP and Ward 4 resident

Ha, sure you are girly pop.

Are you drunk? I live in Brightwood. JLG has no track record, unless you count arguing that we should *not* get the new library we were promised at Walter Reed and then pretending she didn't know when we lost the pool too.

People point out that McDuffie is corrupt for making sure he gets a personal benefit from public/private collaborations, but all George does is make sure there's no benefit to the public.