H1b visas. Anyone else work in technology and see the issues with this program and outsourcing?

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.



This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.


You’re my neighbor, I can tell. It’s exactly this. Farmland sells - developer - new homes - within weeks i see the bus stop kids are 100% Indian mostly middle or high schoolers. I drive by 12 of these developments every morning, and they were only built in the last two years.


Have you asked yourselves who is making $$ off these Indians moving into the suburbs? Or is it just the workers fault?

Seriously. I don't fault people for using legal means to get jobs in the US that these US companies are offering to them.


i dont either.

i do fault Democrats for not only allowing this to happen but ADVOCATING FOR MORE of this!

1 - Why are Democrats suing to allow US Universities to replace US citizens with cheap h1bs?

US Public Universities claim they cannot find skilled labor and yet they are the very institutions that train skilled labor.

it is not about skilled labor , it is about cheap labor. and replacing US citizens.

A coalition of blue states is suing the Trump administration over its fee of $100,000 for H-1B Visas, several Democratic attorneys general announced on Friday.
The Trump administration announced in September that it would be implementing the fee for H-1B visas, citing that the program for the visas is overused. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, joined by Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Joy Campbell and New York Attorney General Letitia James and others, is leading the suit.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/h-1b-visa-fee-lawsuit

2 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding OPT?

OPT is used to replace US college grads with cheap labor, subsidized by federal government. Biden expanded. Many Democrats want to expand. NONE have advocated for elimination.

3 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding H-1B?

point to a single democrat that has proposed repeal of H-1B? none. multiple republican proposals, but absolutely NONE from Democrats. I have called Kaine and Warner and Connelly multiple times and all respond with emails claiming strong support for H-1B.

that is the real tragedy. How Democrats have lied to US workers and pushed to expand them with cheap disposable temporary foreign labor.
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Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.



This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.


You’re my neighbor, I can tell. It’s exactly this. Farmland sells - developer - new homes - within weeks i see the bus stop kids are 100% Indian mostly middle or high schoolers. I drive by 12 of these developments every morning, and they were only built in the last two years.


Have you asked yourselves who is making $$ off these Indians moving into the suburbs? Or is it just the workers fault?

Seriously. I don't fault people for using legal means to get jobs in the US that these US companies are offering to them.


i dont either.

i do fault Democrats for not only allowing this to happen but ADVOCATING FOR MORE of this!

1 - Why are Democrats suing to allow US Universities to replace US citizens with cheap h1bs?

US Public Universities claim they cannot find skilled labor and yet they are the very institutions that train skilled labor.

it is not about skilled labor , it is about cheap labor. and replacing US citizens.

A coalition of blue states is suing the Trump administration over its fee of $100,000 for H-1B Visas, several Democratic attorneys general announced on Friday.
The Trump administration announced in September that it would be implementing the fee for H-1B visas, citing that the program for the visas is overused. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, joined by Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Joy Campbell and New York Attorney General Letitia James and others, is leading the suit.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/h-1b-visa-fee-lawsuit

2 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding OPT?

OPT is used to replace US college grads with cheap labor, subsidized by federal government. Biden expanded. Many Democrats want to expand. NONE have advocated for elimination.

3 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding H-1B?

point to a single democrat that has proposed repeal of H-1B? none. multiple republican proposals, but absolutely NONE from Democrats. I have called Kaine and Warner and Connelly multiple times and all respond with emails claiming strong support for H-1B.

that is the real tragedy. How Democrats have lied to US workers and pushed to expand them with cheap disposable temporary foreign labor.


You think Democrats are the only ones fighting to keep H1-B? Tons of Republicans want that cheap foreign labor. Tons of MAGAs have been taught to hate American universities and educated Americans and stupidly could care if our STEM programs implode.
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Anonymous wrote:When I was a federal contractor, I worked for a niche SDVOSB, I was a SME on tons of capture teams, working proposals, and so on, along with various tiger teams and other things. We worked with all of the major primes in the DMV. But as a small business setaside we also worked with tons of 8(a)s, most of which were Indian dominated. The Indian 8(a) folks were constantly looking for jobs and opportunities for family members. But what made it worse was that communication and competency was a problem. For example one of our primes asked for a proof of concept involving ontology management for taxonomies and knowledge graphs. The Indian guys completely misunderstood the request, and in fact the entire conversation, and came back with some hokey thing for cancer patient records (they thought it was oncology, not ontology) and worse zet even if it was for oncology their solution would never have even cone close to meeting standards for SPII or HIPAA. They had no clue. I mean, there were some decent Indian DBA's but a lot of their coders were clueless.


Looks like there’s no Indians on Elons AI team anymore? Just Whites and East Asians? What happened? 🤣🤣🤣

P.S. Insider verified to me that all the Indian hires were let go for being unable to contribute anything. Obvious fake credentials/most likely scam interviews.





Skeptical of that. But anyhow it still looks like a ratio of 2:1 Asians to non-Asians in that picture - and doesn't answer the question of how many were H1-B? Elon definitely hires H1-B.
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Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.



This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.


You’re my neighbor, I can tell. It’s exactly this. Farmland sells - developer - new homes - within weeks i see the bus stop kids are 100% Indian mostly middle or high schoolers. I drive by 12 of these developments every morning, and they were only built in the last two years.


Have you asked yourselves who is making $$ off these Indians moving into the suburbs? Or is it just the workers fault?

Seriously. I don't fault people for using legal means to get jobs in the US that these US companies are offering to them.


This^. They are moving to have better future offered by these companies in exchange for getting uprooting their lives and leaving their support systems to come here to a new and hostile environment. It's idiotic and racist to hate people, hate the policy makes and demand changes. These immigrants themselves become anti-work visa once their own American born and raised kids hit the job market.
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Its also stupid to assume all H1B folks are scammers, majority is good at what they do or willing to slave for long hours at less wage to compensate for lack of needed skills.
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Just end illegal immigration, regulate legal immigration and minimize work visa unless some specialized need justifies it.



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Just make sure limiting visa workers diverts these jobs to citizens not send them offshore, that's worse as not only jobs are going elsewhere but money earned is getting spent and taxed to prosper India not United States..
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Anonymous wrote:Just make sure limiting visa workers diverts these jobs to citizens not send them offshore, that's worse as not only jobs are going elsewhere but money earned is getting spent and taxed to prosper India not United States..


Op. Agree. Discussed above.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I was a federal contractor, I worked for a niche SDVOSB, I was a SME on tons of capture teams, working proposals, and so on, along with various tiger teams and other things. We worked with all of the major primes in the DMV. But as a small business setaside we also worked with tons of 8(a)s, most of which were Indian dominated. The Indian 8(a) folks were constantly looking for jobs and opportunities for family members. But what made it worse was that communication and competency was a problem. For example one of our primes asked for a proof of concept involving ontology management for taxonomies and knowledge graphs. The Indian guys completely misunderstood the request, and in fact the entire conversation, and came back with some hokey thing for cancer patient records (they thought it was oncology, not ontology) and worse zet even if it was for oncology their solution would never have even cone close to meeting standards for SPII or HIPAA. They had no clue. I mean, there were some decent Indian DBA's but a lot of their coders were clueless.


Looks like there’s no Indians on Elons AI team anymore? Just Whites and East Asians? What happened? 🤣🤣🤣

P.S. Insider verified to me that all the Indian hires were let go for being unable to contribute anything. Obvious fake credentials/most likely scam interviews.




As soon as it's dominated by East Asians, MAGA will go after that group, I have no doubt.

-signed an East Asian.


No. There are positive things to say about East Asians, and I have negative h things to say about another group but this board flags criticism like this.

East Asians do a great job of assimilating and contributing to community.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.



This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.


You’re my neighbor, I can tell. It’s exactly this. Farmland sells - developer - new homes - within weeks i see the bus stop kids are 100% Indian mostly middle or high schoolers. I drive by 12 of these developments every morning, and they were only built in the last two years.


Have you asked yourselves who is making $$ off these Indians moving into the suburbs? Or is it just the workers fault?

Seriously. I don't fault people for using legal means to get jobs in the US that these US companies are offering to them.


i dont either.

i do fault Democrats for not only allowing this to happen but ADVOCATING FOR MORE of this!

1 - Why are Democrats suing to allow US Universities to replace US citizens with cheap h1bs?

US Public Universities claim they cannot find skilled labor and yet they are the very institutions that train skilled labor.

it is not about skilled labor , it is about cheap labor. and replacing US citizens.

A coalition of blue states is suing the Trump administration over its fee of $100,000 for H-1B Visas, several Democratic attorneys general announced on Friday.
The Trump administration announced in September that it would be implementing the fee for H-1B visas, citing that the program for the visas is overused. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, joined by Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Joy Campbell and New York Attorney General Letitia James and others, is leading the suit.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/h-1b-visa-fee-lawsuit

2 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding OPT?

OPT is used to replace US college grads with cheap labor, subsidized by federal government. Biden expanded. Many Democrats want to expand. NONE have advocated for elimination.

3 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding H-1B?

point to a single democrat that has proposed repeal of H-1B? none. multiple republican proposals, but absolutely NONE from Democrats. I have called Kaine and Warner and Connelly multiple times and all respond with emails claiming strong support for H-1B.

that is the real tragedy. How Democrats have lied to US workers and pushed to expand them with cheap disposable temporary foreign labor.



Here Is Sen. Kaine , a Democrat, recent reply. Completely supporting OPT and ignoring the realities. Typical Democrat. we know Republicans are evil, but Democrats used to support US workers first, a generation ago. But no more. They are mini republicans.

Dear Mr. XXXXX,

Thank you for contacting me about the optional practical training (OPT) program. I appreciate hearing from you.

Typically, foreign nationals attend colleges and universities in the United States on F-1 visas, which allow students to remain in the United States for the length of their studies. Most F-1 visa holders return to their country of origin following the completion of their studies. Since 1947, federal regulations have allowed F-1 visa holders to work "in cases where employment for practical training is required or recommended by the school" with the approval of U.S. immigration authorities.

The OPT program allows those F-1 visa holders to obtain employment following graduation for up to 12 months, with a two-year extension available to graduates with degrees in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) fields. STEM OPT employers must certify that OPT recipients are not replacing American workers and that their working conditions and pay are commensurate with U.S. citizen employees. Additionally, the employment must be directly connected to the student's area of study, and the applicant’s academic institution must approve their OPT request prior to their application to United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) for OPT.

I recognize that some unscrupulous employers may use vulnerable foreign workers to undercut U.S. workers. In 2013, I supported comprehensive immigration reform legislation that would have significantly improved our nation’s broken immigration system and included worker protection mechanisms to address such abuses. Moving forward, I will continue to work with my colleagues to reform our immigration system.

I will be sure to keep your views in mind should legislation affecting the OPT program be considered by the Senate. Thank you again for contacting me.

Sincerely,

Senator Tim Kaine
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.



This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.


You’re my neighbor, I can tell. It’s exactly this. Farmland sells - developer - new homes - within weeks i see the bus stop kids are 100% Indian mostly middle or high schoolers. I drive by 12 of these developments every morning, and they were only built in the last two years.


Have you asked yourselves who is making $$ off these Indians moving into the suburbs? Or is it just the workers fault?

Seriously. I don't fault people for using legal means to get jobs in the US that these US companies are offering to them.


i dont either.

i do fault Democrats for not only allowing this to happen but ADVOCATING FOR MORE of this!

1 - Why are Democrats suing to allow US Universities to replace US citizens with cheap h1bs?

US Public Universities claim they cannot find skilled labor and yet they are the very institutions that train skilled labor.

it is not about skilled labor , it is about cheap labor. and replacing US citizens.

A coalition of blue states is suing the Trump administration over its fee of $100,000 for H-1B Visas, several Democratic attorneys general announced on Friday.
The Trump administration announced in September that it would be implementing the fee for H-1B visas, citing that the program for the visas is overused. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, joined by Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Joy Campbell and New York Attorney General Letitia James and others, is leading the suit.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/h-1b-visa-fee-lawsuit

2 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding OPT?

OPT is used to replace US college grads with cheap labor, subsidized by federal government. Biden expanded. Many Democrats want to expand. NONE have advocated for elimination.

3 - why are Democrats advocating for expanding H-1B?

point to a single democrat that has proposed repeal of H-1B? none. multiple republican proposals, but absolutely NONE from Democrats. I have called Kaine and Warner and Connelly multiple times and all respond with emails claiming strong support for H-1B.

that is the real tragedy. How Democrats have lied to US workers and pushed to expand them with cheap disposable temporary foreign labor.


You think Democrats are the only ones fighting to keep H1-B? Tons of Republicans want that cheap foreign labor. Tons of MAGAs have been taught to hate American universities and educated Americans and stupidly could care if our STEM programs implode.


point to a SINGLE DEMOCRAT advocating for limiting H-1B or OPT or L1.

a SINGLE DEMOCRAT??

multiple republicans have pushed forward proposals.
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Sample letter

Dear [Senator/Representative Last Name],

I am writing as a constituent to urge you to address a growing structural issue in the U.S. labor market: the combined impact of offshoring practices, the current use of high-skill visa programs, and the lack of a strong domestic talent pipeline aligned with industry needs.

Multinational companies are responding rationally to existing incentives. Lower-cost offshore labor, combined with visa pathways that can be used to access lower-cost talent domestically, creates a system where U.S.-based hiring is often at a disadvantage. At the same time, many employers report difficulty finding candidates with the specific skills needed for modern technical roles. These issues are interconnected and require a coordinated policy response.

I encourage you to prioritize the following:

- Meaningful, easy-to-use incentives for U.S.-based hiring, particularly for technical and professional roles
- Guardrails to ensure high-skill visa programs are used to fill genuine talent gaps, not as a lower-cost substitute for domestic workers
- Greater transparency and oversight of outsourcing and visa usage, including clearer reporting on workforce composition
- Limitations on tax or accounting advantages tied to offshore labor arrangements
- Workforce-linked conditions on federal contracts, subsidies, and public funding

In addition, there is a critical opportunity to strengthen the domestic talent pipeline:

- Incentivize colleges and universities to partner directly with industry, including structured internship, co-op, and apprenticeship programs tied to real hiring pathways
- Encourage curricula aligned with current workforce needs, particularly in engineering, technology, and applied business fields
- Support programs that connect students to employers early, reducing the gap between education and employability
- Provide funding or tax incentives to companies that actively train and hire entry-level U.S. workers

These steps do not require restricting global business operations or eliminating access to international talent. Rather, they ensure that U.S. policy supports both a competitive business environment and a sustainable domestic workforce.

This is a complex issue, but the current trajectory is clear. Without thoughtful policy adjustments, the incentives will continue to push jobs and opportunity away from the U.S. workforce while leaving domestic talent underutilized.

I ask that you treat this as a priority and communicate clearly what actions you will take to better align hiring, visa policy, and education with long-term national interests.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]
[Your City, State]
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I was a federal contractor, I worked for a niche SDVOSB, I was a SME on tons of capture teams, working proposals, and so on, along with various tiger teams and other things. We worked with all of the major primes in the DMV. But as a small business setaside we also worked with tons of 8(a)s, most of which were Indian dominated. The Indian 8(a) folks were constantly looking for jobs and opportunities for family members. But what made it worse was that communication and competency was a problem. For example one of our primes asked for a proof of concept involving ontology management for taxonomies and knowledge graphs. The Indian guys completely misunderstood the request, and in fact the entire conversation, and came back with some hokey thing for cancer patient records (they thought it was oncology, not ontology) and worse zet even if it was for oncology their solution would never have even cone close to meeting standards for SPII or HIPAA. They had no clue. I mean, there were some decent Indian DBA's but a lot of their coders were clueless.


Looks like there’s no Indians on Elons AI team anymore? Just Whites and East Asians? What happened? 🤣🤣🤣

P.S. Insider verified to me that all the Indian hires were let go for being unable to contribute anything. Obvious fake credentials/most likely scam interviews.




As soon as it's dominated by East Asians, MAGA will go after that group, I have no doubt.

-signed an East Asian.


No. There are positive things to say about East Asians, and I have negative h things to say about another group but this board flags criticism like this.

East Asians do a great job of assimilating and contributing to community.

oh please. I know plenty of Indian Americans who have assimilated (hello Second Lady, FBI Director, etc), and plenty of East Asians who haven't assimilated (I'm East Asian and know plenty).

You just hate Indians because they are the "hate flavor of hate month". There are over a billion Indians, and they churn out IT workers. Sure, many aren't good at what they do, but they are cheap, and execs like cheap labor. Ask Trump. He imports foreign workers, too, and "loves the H1.. He uses it himself".

Again, I don't blame the workers. I blame the execs. And those same execs are the ones bank rolling Trump.

So, Trump increased the visa fees. Have companies hired more American workers now? Can you site a source that shows that increasing these fees have lead to more Americans being hired for good pay?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.



This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.


You’re my neighbor, I can tell. It’s exactly this. Farmland sells - developer - new homes - within weeks i see the bus stop kids are 100% Indian mostly middle or high schoolers. I drive by 12 of these developments every morning, and they were only built in the last two years.


Have you asked yourselves who is making $$ off these Indians moving into the suburbs? Or is it just the workers fault?

Seriously. I don't fault people for using legal means to get jobs in the US that these US companies are offering to them.


This^. They are moving to have better future offered by these companies in exchange for getting uprooting their lives and leaving their support systems to come here to a new and hostile environment. It's idiotic and racist to hate people, hate the policy makes and demand changes. These immigrants themselves become anti-work visa once their own American born and raised kids hit the job market.


Of course. I do not hate the people at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I was a federal contractor, I worked for a niche SDVOSB, I was a SME on tons of capture teams, working proposals, and so on, along with various tiger teams and other things. We worked with all of the major primes in the DMV. But as a small business setaside we also worked with tons of 8(a)s, most of which were Indian dominated. The Indian 8(a) folks were constantly looking for jobs and opportunities for family members. But what made it worse was that communication and competency was a problem. For example one of our primes asked for a proof of concept involving ontology management for taxonomies and knowledge graphs. The Indian guys completely misunderstood the request, and in fact the entire conversation, and came back with some hokey thing for cancer patient records (they thought it was oncology, not ontology) and worse zet even if it was for oncology their solution would never have even cone close to meeting standards for SPII or HIPAA. They had no clue. I mean, there were some decent Indian DBA's but a lot of their coders were clueless.


Looks like there’s no Indians on Elons AI team anymore? Just Whites and East Asians? What happened? 🤣🤣🤣

P.S. Insider verified to me that all the Indian hires were let go for being unable to contribute anything. Obvious fake credentials/most likely scam interviews.




As soon as it's dominated by East Asians, MAGA will go after that group, I have no doubt.

-signed an East Asian.


No. There are positive things to say about East Asians, and I have negative h things to say about another group but this board flags criticism like this.

East Asians do a great job of assimilating and contributing to community.


Op here. This isn’t my experience at all, assuming I correctly guess who you mean. The people are not the issue, it’s the policies
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