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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

If I were a princess getting married with a $1M diamond tiara on my head (or someone who already had completed that feat), I would not be fighting with my future SIL about hugs, lip gloss, or bridesmaid dress hems. And crying about it. No matter who did what to who.

Some days I'm embarrassed for womankind

Yes, this is really stupid stuff for Kate's fangirls to want to discuss instead of Andrew.

Back to the thread topic.

Is the BRF shielding Andrew? I think there's a lot more Charles could do to force Andrew to sit down with the Met and/or the FBI. Charles could refuse to give Andrew that new house, instead of fixing it up for him. He could cut off Andrew's finances, including Andrew's utility bills and spending money. Charles could stop paying for Andrew's security. Heck, Charles could cut off Andrew's access to the royal horse stables.

So why isn't Charles doing any of this? And why isn't William, who's basically telling the world that he's already king in everything but name, calling for any of this?

What? The topic is why they marry trash?

Thread topic is also why the royals themselves are trash. Reread the OP.

We get it. You're terrified of any discussion about what Charles and William could actually do to get Andrew to sit down with the Met and the FBI to have a reckoning about his own behavior, and to help them understand Epstein's network.

I get it. So we're allowed to discuss any and all royals with or without your permission.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

If I were a princess getting married with a $1M diamond tiara on my head (or someone who already had completed that feat), I would not be fighting with my future SIL about hugs, lip gloss, or bridesmaid dress hems. And crying about it. No matter who did what to who.

Some days I'm embarrassed for womankind

Yes, this is really stupid stuff for Kate's fangirls to want to discuss instead of Andrew.

Back to the thread topic.

Is the BRF shielding Andrew? I think there's a lot more Charles could do to force Andrew to sit down with the Met and/or the FBI. Charles could refuse to give Andrew that new house, instead of fixing it up for him. He could cut off Andrew's finances, including Andrew's utility bills and spending money. Charles could stop paying for Andrew's security. Heck, Charles could cut off Andrew's access to the royal horse stables.

So why isn't Charles doing any of this? And why isn't William, who's basically telling the world that he's already king in everything but name, calling for any of this?

What? The topic is why they marry trash?

Thread topic is also why the royals themselves are trash. Reread the OP.

We get it. You're terrified of any discussion about what Charles and William could actually do to get Andrew to sit down with the Met and the FBI to have a reckoning about his own behavior, and to help them understand Epstein's network.

Why don't you take this to the politics forum and figure out why Americans don't care to hold any Americans accountable for the Epstein connections. Andrew is a nobody in all this.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

If I were a princess getting married with a $1M diamond tiara on my head (or someone who already had completed that feat), I would not be fighting with my future SIL about hugs, lip gloss, or bridesmaid dress hems. And crying about it. No matter who did what to who.

Some days I'm embarrassed for womankind

Yes, this is really stupid stuff for Kate's fangirls to want to discuss instead of Andrew.

Back to the thread topic.

Is the BRF shielding Andrew? I think there's a lot more Charles could do to force Andrew to sit down with the Met and/or the FBI. Charles could refuse to give Andrew that new house, instead of fixing it up for him. He could cut off Andrew's finances, including Andrew's utility bills and spending money. Charles could stop paying for Andrew's security. Heck, Charles could cut off Andrew's access to the royal horse stables.

So why isn't Charles doing any of this? And why isn't William, who's basically telling the world that he's already king in everything but name, calling for any of this?

Because they are all just hoping that Andrew will fade slowly into the background again. I mean, he's old. He's not very adaptable. Yes, they could make him start paying his own bills and such, but it's hard when you're old already. I tried to get my mom to learn to do all of that at 78 and she was terrible at it. Setting him loose in the UK to find a flat to rent and pay his own light bill isn't going to end well. If he gives him some measure of help, he can use it as a way to get him to behave. I don't blame him. Let's just be glad he's not the King. That would be very messy.

Some think Andrew and/or Fergie, if they were completely penniless, would write their own books exposing BRF secrets, and those could be even worse than Spare. And that would be a reason Charles wants to keep them quarantined. I don't know what to think about that.

I do think it's reasonable to cut off Andrew's horses and security.

I also think that making Andrew sit down with the Met and FBI could shed light on the other players in Epstein's pedo ring, even bust up lingering remnants. And I realize this is me and might not be you, but Andrew may have dirt to spill on Trump, Gates, Musk, and the rest. Even if Andrew gets the British equivalent of immunity and doesn't have to go to prison himself.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

If I were a princess getting married with a $1M diamond tiara on my head (or someone who already had completed that feat), I would not be fighting with my future SIL about hugs, lip gloss, or bridesmaid dress hems. And crying about it. No matter who did what to who.

Some days I'm embarrassed for womankind

Yes, this is really stupid stuff for Kate's fangirls to want to discuss instead of Andrew.

Back to the thread topic.

Is the BRF shielding Andrew? I think there's a lot more Charles could do to force Andrew to sit down with the Met and/or the FBI. Charles could refuse to give Andrew that new house, instead of fixing it up for him. He could cut off Andrew's finances, including Andrew's utility bills and spending money. Charles could stop paying for Andrew's security. Heck, Charles could cut off Andrew's access to the royal horse stables.

So why isn't Charles doing any of this? And why isn't William, who's basically telling the world that he's already king in everything but name, calling for any of this?

What? The topic is why they marry trash?

Thread topic is also why the royals themselves are trash. Reread the OP.

We get it. You're terrified of any discussion about what Charles and William could actually do to get Andrew to sit down with the Met and the FBI to have a reckoning about his own behavior, and to help them understand Epstein's network.

I get it. So we're allowed to discuss any and all royals with or without your permission.

Grow up. Stop deflecting. Andrew is a royal. Nobody wants to hear you hissing and spitting about Meghan yet again, so can that garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

If I were a princess getting married with a $1M diamond tiara on my head (or someone who already had completed that feat), I would not be fighting with my future SIL about hugs, lip gloss, or bridesmaid dress hems. And crying about it. No matter who did what to who.

Some days I'm embarrassed for womankind

Yes, this is really stupid stuff for Kate's fangirls to want to discuss instead of Andrew.

Back to the thread topic.

Is the BRF shielding Andrew? I think there's a lot more Charles could do to force Andrew to sit down with the Met and/or the FBI. Charles could refuse to give Andrew that new house, instead of fixing it up for him. He could cut off Andrew's finances, including Andrew's utility bills and spending money. Charles could stop paying for Andrew's security. Heck, Charles could cut off Andrew's access to the royal horse stables.

So why isn't Charles doing any of this? And why isn't William, who's basically telling the world that he's already king in everything but name, calling for any of this?

What? The topic is why they marry trash?

Thread topic is also why the royals themselves are trash. Reread the OP.

We get it. You're terrified of any discussion about what Charles and William could actually do to get Andrew to sit down with the Met and the FBI to have a reckoning about his own behavior, and to help them understand Epstein's network.

Why don't you take this to the politics forum and figure out why Americans don't care to hold any Americans accountable for the Epstein connections. Andrew is a nobody in all this.

Absolutely hoping we will hold Americans accountable--after the midterm elections. The answer to your question is obvious: it's the republican boot-lickers in Congress who are protecting Epstein's associates including Trump, but that's likely to change in November.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but I think it's pretty telling about Royal fans that they think Harry & Meghan are a bigger problem than Andrew and Fergie.

🎯. Even today on the Daily Mail, there are people insisting the dirt on Virginia Giuffre is just about to come out, and then we'll all know Andrew is innocent. And don't believe your lying eyes about those pictures showing Andrew with young girls and his emails to Epstein.

It's actually pretty disgusting.

People? You mean like the commenters who are likely bots?

Yes, absolutely the bots, especially on the DM. But someone told the bots to defend Andrew, it's just unclear who.

Do you think those bots speak for the majority?

I think those bots speak for whoever is paying them. Which we won't know until someone leaks it. We know the Waleses use bots (google "New York Times A Royal Instagram Mystery), but that's not a smoking gun.

We can see that the majority of Mail comments and votes are paid-for-by-someone bots. Check out most DM articles: the top 5 comments, which are probably bots, get thousands of approving votes, often in the incriminating 10::1 upvote-to-downvote algorithm. The responses to those comments, and comments below the top five, rarely break a few hundred votes.

Meghan and Harry use bots too. That is obvious.

Any proof?

Yes.

https://macleans.ca/facebook-instant-articles/meghan-markles-twitter-bot-network-the-whole-thing-is-a-bit-insane/

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

If I were a princess getting married with a $1M diamond tiara on my head (or someone who already had completed that feat), I would not be fighting with my future SIL about hugs, lip gloss, or bridesmaid dress hems. And crying about it. No matter who did what to who.

Some days I'm embarrassed for womankind

I think Megan was actually upset about the drama with her dad and she directed her emotions at Kate, who was right in front of her. I'm sure the bridesmaid dress situation was frustrating but it shouldn't have blown up like this. I gather Meagan thought everyone should lay off of her bc of the stuff with her dad, but she chose to have a big second white wedding to a prince so SHE should have been understanding that some things need to be a certain way, no matter what was going on with her personally. Sometimes you have to dig deep and pull it together, and she seems to lack internal resources to do that.

OMG. OK, here we go. Meghan had a tailor waiting ready at KP, just a few steps away from Kate. Meghan told Kate to get her staff to take the bridesmaid's dress to the tailor. Problem solved. Or so you'd think, but Kate kept refusing to do that. Maybe Meghan was having a tough week, not to mention planning a high-profile wedding. But Kate was being frustrating. You'd think Kate could have asked the nearest flunky to take Charlotte and the dress to the tailor who was, again, waiting on call a few steps away. Why not?

Can we talk about Andrew now?

I think you're missing some details. The issue was Meagan said the dresses had to be hemmed and Kate said they needed more than hemming. The taylor ended up remaking the bridesmaid dresses because they didn't fit. Why both ladies had to be this far in the weeds, I do not know, but Kate didn't want Charlotte on a world stage in a dress that didn't fit and I don't blame her. That's her kid, and she was in the public eye for this wedding.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but I think it's pretty telling about Royal fans that they think Harry & Meghan are a bigger problem than Andrew and Fergie.

🎯. Even today on the Daily Mail, there are people insisting the dirt on Virginia Giuffre is just about to come out, and then we'll all know Andrew is innocent. And don't believe your lying eyes about those pictures showing Andrew with young girls and his emails to Epstein.

It's actually pretty disgusting.

People? You mean like the commenters who are likely bots?

Yes, absolutely the bots, especially on the DM. But someone told the bots to defend Andrew, it's just unclear who.

Do you think those bots speak for the majority?

I think those bots speak for whoever is paying them. Which we won't know until someone leaks it. We know the Waleses use bots (google "New York Times A Royal Instagram Mystery), but that's not a smoking gun.

We can see that the majority of Mail comments and votes are paid-for-by-someone bots. Check out most DM articles: the top 5 comments, which are probably bots, get thousands of approving votes, often in the incriminating 10::1 upvote-to-downvote algorithm. The responses to those comments, and comments below the top five, rarely break a few hundred votes.

Meghan and Harry use bots too. That is obvious.

Any proof?

Yes.

https://macleans.ca/facebook-instant-articles/meghan-markles-twitter-bot-network-the-whole-thing-is-a-bit-insane/

Nope. "It is not impossible that there is just a fanatical community of people online who are tweeting all day content about the duchess, but the scale of the community and the amount of content they are sharing should make us suspicious.” Take yourself over to Reddit--there's a huge community of people defending Meghan.

Props to the article for mentioning Russian bots in connection with US elections, but that doesn't prove anything, lol.

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Everyone here knows which direction this thread will go and why it will eventually be locked.

Why even try at this point.

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It's weird we never hear any more about the cancer scares. Charles is looking about as well as anyone his age, cancer be damned.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

Meghan sounded like a bridezilla though.

Uh huh. Is that what you read on that hate sub?

This thread is about what the British royals should do about Andrew, and whether they're shielding them. It's not another of your "I hate Meghan" threads that you can twist to divert attention from Andrew. Try to focus.

Actually it's just about British Royals. Is Meghan one or not? If she is then she's fair game.

She’s not. So let’s focus on the real royals.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

Meghan sounded like a bridezilla though.

Uh huh. Is that what you read on that hate sub?

This thread is about what the British royals should do about Andrew, and whether they're shielding them. It's not another of your "I hate Meghan" threads that you can twist to divert attention from Andrew. Try to focus.

Actually it's just about British Royals. Is Meghan one or not? If she is then she's fair game.

She’s not. So let’s focus on the real royals.

Isn't she still styled as the Duchess of Sussex? I'm certain that's how she has asked to be credited on her Netflix Show. Is that just her stage name?

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

DP. +1. Apparently it was Kate who made Meghan cry over the bridesmaids' dresses, although someone on the Waleses' team leaked to the public that Meghan made Kate cry. Harry found Meghan on the kitchen floor in tears and Kate came around with flowers and an apology the next day. So when KP went out in public to lie about something the Sussexes hadn't spilled publicly, surely the Sussexes are entitled to set the public record straight.

Harry has said a few times that he left 400 pages of Spare on the cutting room floor because they were too incendiary. Part of me wants him to publish them after Charles dies, especially if William continues to be a complete jerk to the Sussexes and to manipulate the British press against them.

If I were a princess getting married with a $1M diamond tiara on my head (or someone who already had completed that feat), I would not be fighting with my future SIL about hugs, lip gloss, or bridesmaid dress hems. And crying about it. No matter who did what to who.

Some days I'm embarrassed for womankind

Yes, this is really stupid stuff for Kate's fangirls to want to discuss instead of Andrew.

Back to the thread topic.

Is the BRF shielding Andrew? I think there's a lot more Charles could do to force Andrew to sit down with the Met and/or the FBI. Charles could refuse to give Andrew that new house, instead of fixing it up for him. He could cut off Andrew's finances, including Andrew's utility bills and spending money. Charles could stop paying for Andrew's security. Heck, Charles could cut off Andrew's access to the royal horse stables.

So why isn't Charles doing any of this? And why isn't William, who's basically telling the world that he's already king in everything but name, calling for any of this?

Because they are all just hoping that Andrew will fade slowly into the background again. I mean, he's old. He's not very adaptable. Yes, they could make him start paying his own bills and such, but it's hard when you're old already. I tried to get my mom to learn to do all of that at 78 and she was terrible at it. Setting him loose in the UK to find a flat to rent and pay his own light bill isn't going to end well. If he gives him some measure of help, he can use it as a way to get him to behave. I don't blame him. Let's just be glad he's not the King. That would be very messy.

Some think Andrew and/or Fergie, if they were completely penniless, would write their own books exposing BRF secrets, and those could be even worse than Spare. And that would be a reason Charles wants to keep them quarantined. I don't know what to think about that.

I do think it's reasonable to cut off Andrew's horses and security.

I also think that making Andrew sit down with the Met and FBI could shed light on the other players in Epstein's pedo ring, even bust up lingering remnants. And I realize this is me and might not be you, but Andrew may have dirt to spill on Trump, Gates, Musk, and the rest. Even if Andrew gets the British equivalent of immunity and doesn't have to go to prison himself.

Apparently he has banished Andrew to one of his smallest properties. I agree they don't want Andrew or Fergie desperate enough to write a tell-all. The tell-all obviously wouldn't mention Epstein but WOULD mention Charles and others.

I seriously doubt any of them have any real affection for Andrew at this point. And Fergie was always just tolerated.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone here knows which direction this thread will go and why it will eventually be locked.

Why even try at this point.

I haven't seen any posts that are worthy of reporting?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone here knows which direction this thread will go and why it will eventually be locked.

Why even try at this point.

I haven't seen any posts that are worthy of reporting?

If you've hung out on this board for any time at all, you'll know that all threads about the royals eventually get locked because of the way posters talk about Meghan.