Stopping immigration visas from certain countries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So countries where your skin tends to be white are totally okay to come here. Got it.

If you want to settle on this country you have to bring with you a powerful virus like smallpox or some heavy firepower, to wipe out the locals.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of someone who immigrated to the U.S. as an older person, with adult children working in the U.S. That individual was receiving home healthcare paid for by U.S. tax dollars. Adult children figured out how to game the system so elderly, deteriorating mom would get free care.

Gaming the system is one of the major reasons why Americans are fed up with unchecked immigration.

Other developed nations demand proof that you will be self sustaining before they allow you to immigrate. Their services are for citizens who've paid into the system, not for freeloaders.

What is good ole US of A going to be like a ....Canada?! Gasp.

Canada went bankrupt in 1999 and is on the way to that again right now. Check it out.

yet, Canadians are happier than Americans. Go figure.

wtf news are you reading? They are in total turmoil. Fired Trudeau, taxes through the roof, can’t buy property, multicultural immigrant problems, halted hiring of non-Canadians in 2023, ,

What happens when you allow liberals to import millions of Indian h1bs.

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Anonymous wrote:Will this affect immigrants from those countries who are already here? Like, if you have to renew your visa? And, if so, is there a different process for people whose work is sponsored by one of the international agencies like World Bank and IMF? Anyone know?

If Trump is Russian puppet, why would he stop immigrant visa for Russians???

Putin doesn’t want people leaving Russia because he needs bodies to conscript. This isn’t new. The USSR was famous for having emigration restrictions.

If Putin doesn't want people to leave the country, he could shot the borders for all males age 18-60, just like Zelenski did. But Putin didn't do that.

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Anonymous wrote:How many people from these countries actually end up on welfare after getting green cards? If the administration is truly worried about that then they left out some pretty obvious suspects.

It’s not just about welfare.

Similar to illegal economic migrants with dependents , they all start immediately using taxpayer services and social systems that others paid in to for decades.

Keep that up and it’s unsustainable and runs out of money and capacity.

Oh look, we are!

There is no evidence of this at scale. You making up an example of a time an immigrant got a benefit is not proof that immigrants at large are draining the social safety net or whatever.

15 million illegal aliens a year isn’t scale?

Having an avengers of 4.38 children per childbearing woman isn’t scale?

Clearly ESOL ain’t working so hot.

The discussion was about LEGAL immigrants you claim are somehow draining social safety programs. Why are you mentioning people here illegally?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Because legal and illegal immigrants have one thing in common, they aren't my friends.

So you have no evidence?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Just in calendar year 2023 this is how many people were granted permanent residency in the United States. This is ONE calendar year. When you look at the numbers what is alarming is the number of elderly people we allow to get green cards. Out of the total 1.1 million people who got green cards in 2023 there were 200,000 NEW green card holders aged 55+.

The law says you have to wait five years for Medicaid and supplementary social security for 65+. So in 5 years you are potentially going to have 200,000 new people on Medicaid (and in some states they cover the cost and certain categories of migrants there is no waiting period.) And the ones who are 65+ will be eligible for supplemental social security for elderly people who didn't work enough quarters of around $900 a month. All the family needs to do is make sure no assets are in the elderly person's name or they are back in the country of origin.

No add every calendar year and it is millions.



Under 1 year 3,420
1 to 4 years 27,610
5 to 9 years 55,940
10 to 14 years 67,850
15 to 19 years 70,230
20 to 24 years 90,500
25 to 29 years 120,800
30 to 34 years 142,120
35 to 39 years 122,850
40 to 44 years 103,210
45 to 49 years 90,580
50 to 54 years 78,780
55 to 59 years 63,560
60 to 64 years 50,960
65 to 74 years 62,420
75 years and over 22,090

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why people need to bring their siblings here? Just visit them or move back if you miss them so much or not move overseas to begin with.

Even easier, just fly here or walk over the border and never leave. No benies then tho, you’d have to buy some fraudulent ssn and ID.

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Anonymous wrote:How many people from these countries actually end up on welfare after getting green cards? If the administration is truly worried about that then they left out some pretty obvious suspects.

It’s not just about welfare.

Similar to illegal economic migrants with dependents , they all start immediately using taxpayer services and social systems that others paid in to for decades.

Keep that up and it’s unsustainable and runs out of money and capacity.

Oh look, we are!

There is no evidence of this at scale. You making up an example of a time an immigrant got a benefit is not proof that immigrants at large are draining the social safety net or whatever.

15 million illegal aliens a year isn’t scale?

Having an avengers of 4.38 children per childbearing woman isn’t scale?

Clearly ESOL ain’t working so hot.

The discussion was about LEGAL immigrants you claim are somehow draining social safety programs. Why are you mentioning people here illegally?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Because legal and illegal immigrants have one thing in common, they aren't my friends.

So you have no evidence?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Just in calendar year 2023 this is how many people were granted permanent residency in the United States. This is ONE calendar year. When you look at the numbers what is alarming is the number of elderly people we allow to get green cards. Out of the total 1.1 million people who got green cards in 2023 there were 200,000 NEW green card holders aged 55+.

The law says you have to wait five years for Medicaid and supplementary social security for 65+. So in 5 years you are potentially going to have 200,000 new people on Medicaid (and in some states they cover the cost and certain categories of migrants there is no waiting period.) And the ones who are 65+ will be eligible for supplemental social security for elderly people who didn't work enough quarters of around $900 a month. All the family needs to do is make sure no assets are in the elderly person's name or they are back in the country of origin.

No add every calendar year and it is millions.



Under 1 year 3,420
1 to 4 years 27,610
5 to 9 years 55,940
10 to 14 years 67,850
15 to 19 years 70,230
20 to 24 years 90,500
25 to 29 years 120,800
30 to 34 years 142,120
35 to 39 years 122,850
40 to 44 years 103,210
45 to 49 years 90,580
50 to 54 years 78,780
55 to 59 years 63,560
60 to 64 years 50,960
65 to 74 years 62,420
75 years and over 22,090

This is actually a much younger age distribution than the US population as a whole. 31% of the US population is 55+. Only 18% of people issued green cards are 55+. Your own argument shows that legal immigrants are a net positive to the solvency of social security and Medicare.

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Anonymous wrote:How many people from these countries actually end up on welfare after getting green cards? If the administration is truly worried about that then they left out some pretty obvious suspects.

It’s not just about welfare.

Similar to illegal economic migrants with dependents , they all start immediately using taxpayer services and social systems that others paid in to for decades.

Keep that up and it’s unsustainable and runs out of money and capacity.

Oh look, we are!

There is no evidence of this at scale. You making up an example of a time an immigrant got a benefit is not proof that immigrants at large are draining the social safety net or whatever.

15 million illegal aliens a year isn’t scale?

Having an avengers of 4.38 children per childbearing woman isn’t scale?

Clearly ESOL ain’t working so hot.

The discussion was about LEGAL immigrants you claim are somehow draining social safety programs. Why are you mentioning people here illegally?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Because legal and illegal immigrants have one thing in common, they aren't my friends.

So you have no evidence?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Just in calendar year 2023 this is how many people were granted permanent residency in the United States. This is ONE calendar year. When you look at the numbers what is alarming is the number of elderly people we allow to get green cards. Out of the total 1.1 million people who got green cards in 2023 there were 200,000 NEW green card holders aged 55+.

The law says you have to wait five years for Medicaid and supplementary social security for 65+. So in 5 years you are potentially going to have 200,000 new people on Medicaid (and in some states they cover the cost and certain categories of migrants there is no waiting period.) And the ones who are 65+ will be eligible for supplemental social security for elderly people who didn't work enough quarters of around $900 a month. All the family needs to do is make sure no assets are in the elderly person's name or they are back in the country of origin.

No add every calendar year and it is millions.



Under 1 year 3,420
1 to 4 years 27,610
5 to 9 years 55,940
10 to 14 years 67,850
15 to 19 years 70,230
20 to 24 years 90,500
25 to 29 years 120,800
30 to 34 years 142,120
35 to 39 years 122,850
40 to 44 years 103,210
45 to 49 years 90,580
50 to 54 years 78,780
55 to 59 years 63,560
60 to 64 years 50,960
65 to 74 years 62,420
75 years and over 22,090

This is actually a much younger age distribution than the US population as a whole. 31% of the US population is 55+. Only 18% of people issued green cards are 55+. Your own argument shows that legal immigrants are a net positive to the solvency of social security and Medicare.

Only 27% of the US population is age 20-39 (age when people have kids). 43% of people issued green cards are this age. Legal immigrants as a whole are improving the funding of Medicare and social security. They are reducing the average age of the US population by being younger and also having more children.

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Anonymous wrote:How many people from these countries actually end up on welfare after getting green cards? If the administration is truly worried about that then they left out some pretty obvious suspects.

It’s not just about welfare.

Similar to illegal economic migrants with dependents , they all start immediately using taxpayer services and social systems that others paid in to for decades.

Keep that up and it’s unsustainable and runs out of money and capacity.

Oh look, we are!

There is no evidence of this at scale. You making up an example of a time an immigrant got a benefit is not proof that immigrants at large are draining the social safety net or whatever.

15 million illegal aliens a year isn’t scale?

Having an avengers of 4.38 children per childbearing woman isn’t scale?

Clearly ESOL ain’t working so hot.

The discussion was about LEGAL immigrants you claim are somehow draining social safety programs. Why are you mentioning people here illegally?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Because legal and illegal immigrants have one thing in common, they aren't my friends.

So you have no evidence?

I’ll ask again, where is the evidence that massive numbers of people are immigrating and immediately getting expensive care through Medicaid. Not an example of a time someone did this. Evidence that this is happening in significant enough numbers to affect the programs’ solvency. Give us statistics about Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Just in calendar year 2023 this is how many people were granted permanent residency in the United States. This is ONE calendar year. When you look at the numbers what is alarming is the number of elderly people we allow to get green cards. Out of the total 1.1 million people who got green cards in 2023 there were 200,000 NEW green card holders aged 55+.

The law says you have to wait five years for Medicaid and supplementary social security for 65+. So in 5 years you are potentially going to have 200,000 new people on Medicaid (and in some states they cover the cost and certain categories of migrants there is no waiting period.) And the ones who are 65+ will be eligible for supplemental social security for elderly people who didn't work enough quarters of around $900 a month. All the family needs to do is make sure no assets are in the elderly person's name or they are back in the country of origin.

No add every calendar year and it is millions.



Under 1 year 3,420
1 to 4 years 27,610
5 to 9 years 55,940
10 to 14 years 67,850
15 to 19 years 70,230
20 to 24 years 90,500
25 to 29 years 120,800
30 to 34 years 142,120
35 to 39 years 122,850
40 to 44 years 103,210
45 to 49 years 90,580
50 to 54 years 78,780
55 to 59 years 63,560
60 to 64 years 50,960
65 to 74 years 62,420
75 years and over 22,090

This is actually a much younger age distribution than the US population as a whole. 31% of the US population is 55+. Only 18% of people issued green cards are 55+. Your own argument shows that legal immigrants are a net positive to the solvency of social security and Medicare.

No, the point is over age 60 should not be coming unless highly skilled migrant who intends to work or run a company in said skills.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People from these countries are more likely to be on welfare.

Absolute crap.

It is very difficult to immigrabt from several of the countries on that list if you are not UMC. Nigerian immigrants are more educated than any other group in America. I don't believe that they are more likely to be on welfare.

Neck in neck with Eastern European internet scam artists. I am a Prince, yada, yada, yada, send me $100 to get $1,000 back after I get my inheritance, yada, yada, yada.

[Anonymous]

If you run the numbers it’s cheaper and easier to stay in India or Turkey with low cost labor care and their social system than come here and live with your adult son’s family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a recruiter I can tell you that emerging top business incl tech talent across the board are Nigerians.

They are 100% not on welfare lol

And this list is so weird I mean what did Fiji and Bermuda folks do to us?

I see that they can all come and pay to watch the World Cup but then they need to leave. WTH? If they are a threat why be allowed in and if not, why them and not those from S Korea or Taiwan? So Russia is added but not China? Student visas work too I see.

This admin has such psychos!

Trump invited 600,000 Chinese student visas into the USA last year. He can't back down.

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Anonymous wrote:Will this affect immigrants from those countries who are already here? Like, if you have to renew your visa? And, if so, is there a different process for people whose work is sponsored by one of the international agencies like World Bank and IMF? Anyone know?

It already has. I read of a woman stuck in India. She has a job in the US and has not been able to get back home to the US. She could lose her job...

India is not on the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My parents are from one of these countries. They have been in the US since 2007 and have not applied for citizenship because of poor English. Not eligible for Medicare (never worked in the US) or Medicaid. When they arrived, they paid for medical insurance out of pocket, but became eligible for, and received, Obamacare subsidies (their insurance premiums doubled within a year of the ACA enactment). Their green cards need to be renewed next year, and I am very concerned renewals will be affected next.

ACA subsidies is government assistance. And yes, I would think that if things do not change, their renewals will be affected. People have been arrested at the immigration offices renewing their green cards. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

According to a Cato Institute study, naturalized citizens use 17% more welfare/medicaid/government assistance than American born citizens.
https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrants-used-less-welfare-native-born-americans-2022

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Anonymous wrote:According to a Cato Institute study, naturalized citizens use 17% more welfare/medicaid/government assistance than American born citizens.
https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrants-used-less-welfare-native-born-americans-2022

The title of the CATO institute article you referenced is literally “immigrants use less welfare.” The conclusion of this article is that immigrants are a net-positive to the fiscal situation for the US government and taxpayers. You are cherry-picking a single piece of information from this article to paint a misleading and inaccurate narrative about the impact of immigration on the US. It also says “naturalized immigrants consumed 17 percent more welfare than native-born Americans because they are an older population.” This is because it takes minimum of 4-6 years to become a citizen and many people wait longer than that to apply for citizenship. So they don’t actually use more welfare if you consider the fact that they were a greencard holder first and account for that time. This is just a reflection of artificial range restriction in the data.