When do you leave the sinking ship

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never imagined I’d ever have these thoughts but in all seriousness when do you say we’ve reached the point of no return. What will be the final straw for you? The next election could be too late.

I make my stand here. If the United States is messed up, the world is messed up. It’s my duty to be here and, if nothing else, be a decent person who will vote for sane things when I have a chance.

Same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why I have trouble taking leftists seriously. They constantly say they hate the US or want to leave. $h!t or get off the pot, guys. There are plenty of immigrants who'd love to take your place, and given that you want to let them all in, maybe clear some space and make room for them.

+1. This exact same thread gets repeated every few weeks or so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Naturalized citizen here. Sadly, the US has no history of meaningful civil protest, except for the Vietnam Era, and even that was not successful. So people have no clue how to protest, and their first thought is leaving.

Uh, the Vietnam wars protests absolutely worked. Except when they tormented returning soldiers who had been drafted.

OP, I understand, but now is the time to fight, not flee. Also, this is destabilizing the world, so I'm not sure we'd make out better elsewhere.

There’s no evidence that anti-war protests during Vietnam had the slightest impact. Until very late, the majority of Americans supported involvement in Vietnam, and if anything the protests fueled the perception that American was lawless and out of control, which Nixon handily exploited. Vietnam became unpopular due to (1) lack of progress on the battlefield (ie.the “credibility gap”), and (2) war inflation and taxes.

Wrong!

Do you think the same about the Boston Tea Party?

Please research resistance history in the US for your edification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why I have trouble taking leftists seriously. They constantly say they hate the US or want to leave. $h!t or get off the pot, guys. There are plenty of immigrants who'd love to take your place, and given that you want to let them all in, maybe clear some space and make room for them.

LOL. Love it when MAGA forgets they are pro-beating-up immigrants, and tackling those folks at...citizenship hearings.

How do you say this with a straight face??? MAGA only survives because of the left. You're broke!

[Anonymous]

I remember the one mom who posted here nonstop that age was taking her two daughters to Canada if Trump was elected. So they could get more abortions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I have trouble taking leftists seriously. They constantly say they hate the US or want to leave. $h!t or get off the pot, guys. There are plenty of immigrants who'd love to take your place, and given that you want to let them all in, maybe clear some space and make room for them.

+1. This exact same thread gets repeated every few weeks or so.

Yep. Same old nonsense, different day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember the one mom who posted here nonstop that age was taking her two daughters to Canada if Trump was elected. So they could get more abortions.

I remember her. She's been awfully quiet lately... do you think she actually moved to Canada? Ha, just kidding. Of course she didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I have trouble taking leftists seriously. They constantly say they hate the US or want to leave. $h!t or get off the pot, guys. There are plenty of immigrants who'd love to take your place, and given that you want to let them all in, maybe clear some space and make room for them.

LOL. Love it when MAGA forgets they are pro-beating-up immigrants, and tackling those folks at...citizenship hearings.

How do you say this with a straight face??? MAGA only survives because of the left. You're broke!

More word salad from the usual suspects.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I have trouble taking leftists seriously. They constantly say they hate the US or want to leave. $h!t or get off the pot, guys. There are plenty of immigrants who'd love to take your place, and given that you want to let them all in, maybe clear some space and make room for them.

LOL. Love it when MAGA forgets they are pro-beating-up immigrants, and tackling those folks at...citizenship hearings.

How do you say this with a straight face??? MAGA only survives because of the left. You're broke!

More word salad from the usual suspects.
DP

Yes, I genuinely don't understand what this person was trying to communicate to me. It's fine, they don't need English where they're going.

[Anonymous]

On the one hand, parts of want to flee.
On the other, can we stop seeking some kind of utopia?? Get real, things can be much much better, but many still fight to get here and stay here.

My husband and I have local jobs (where we are) that serve our community. We can serve *any* community. But we choose this one

[Anonymous]

*parts of me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember the one mom who posted here nonstop that age was taking her two daughters to Canada if Trump was elected. So they could get more abortions.

I remember her. She's been awfully quiet lately... do you think she actually moved to Canada? Ha, just kidding. Of course she didn't.

I can't imagine abortions are pleasant enough to arrange your entire life around. I bet after a few of them, they were like "mom, why can't we just use birth control like everyone else? And why do we have to live in this snowy wasteland just to keep having these shitty abortions?" And so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the one hand, parts of want to flee.
On the other, can we stop seeking some kind of utopia?? Get real, things can be much much better, but many still fight to get here and stay here.

My husband and I have local jobs (where we are) that serve our community. We can serve *any* community. But we choose this one

Exactly. You never see American families getting onto a raft at the beach, trying to float away to Cuba or whatever. It's almost unthinkable that people would do that.

FOR A REASON.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have Canadian ancestry? I see that Canada removed their generational limit to claiming citizenship through descent (last month).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll leave when I feel like the window to leave is closing and I am afraid for my family. At that point no sane person is going to be like BUT MY JOB AND MY SCHOOL!

+1. But hard to know when that is and where to go. For now trying to participate as much as possible here while also working on Plan B for various family members

Same. Dual citizen family here. I ask myself this daily and just told my parents we can take them with us abroad for 6 months, then apply for asylum.