POS HSV-2

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Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


false positive is better than a false negative.


What? No, it's not.
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Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


the newer type specific blood tests are between 96%-100% accurate. They improve constantly.
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Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


I'm not a PP but I went ahead and checked my prior HSV tests: the anti body test notes state it's 99% accurate. Not sure why you keep saying it's not. They even show the infection range: reactive, not reactive etc which can give an idea whether the infection is recent and thus highly potent, or if the person was infected a long time ago and it's almost not infectious.
So testing makes a lot of sense: at least I would want to know if my partner has a recent very active HSV infection that sheds or if it's dormant and likely not dangerous to me
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


the newer type specific blood tests are between 96%-100% accurate. They improve constantly.


Exactly: the even can show if HSV infection is recent and thus potent infection or "dormant" eg since childhood etc which is not shedding when the person has no outbreaks. My dermatologist told me the same: it has little to no shedding when it's from childhood and I dated/actively kissed etc and Neve caught it from partners who had it since birth
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Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Clinic says:

"Oral herpes is a viral infection, and the herpes simplex virus (HSV) is the specific virus responsible. There are two types of HSV (HSV-1 and HSV-2). Both types can cause oral herpes, but HSV-1 causes most cases."

A doctor I know also said this. Of course, it is well known that many children test positive for HSV 1, but smaller number of children test positive for HSV-2, which sometimes is transmitted the ways HSV -1 is transmitted (not necessarily through sex).




if a child tests positive for HSV-2 CPS needs to be contacted immediately.


An investigation by child protective services probably would be a good idea, but quite a few of the investigations of kids with HSV2 would show that the kid probably was not abused and just got a kiss from a family member or shared a bottle with a kid at school. Genital herpes is a sexually transmitted disease but it is also a non-sexually transmitted disease. Some people get it in their mouths even if their mouths don't touch genitals. That's all I'm saying.



Only 11% of adults have HSV2. Pls provide data on how many kids have HSV2 since birth. It’s very uncommon and likely cause is sex abuse


It is the reason they test you for it during pregnancy. It is not only possible but very likely to pass that onto your newborn during a vaginal birth if you're having an outbreak. Please educate yourself.





You go and educate yourself: HSV2 percentage by age is well researched: 0.8% in children (as you describe, transfer during birth). And they it grows exponentially when these children become sexually active.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/facts-about-herpes-5443000#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20CDC%2C%20around%201%20in,other%20STIs%2C%20including%20HIV%20*%20Neonatal%20HSV

Please, note that distribution varies greatly by race: only 8% of white men have HSV2 and 14% of white women. It's even lower in Asian population, likely due to conservative nature of population. I date primarily while and Asian men, and never came across ANYONE positive for HSV2
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Clinic says:

"Oral herpes is a viral infection, and the herpes simplex virus (HSV) is the specific virus responsible. There are two types of HSV (HSV-1 and HSV-2). Both types can cause oral herpes, but HSV-1 causes most cases."

A doctor I know also said this. Of course, it is well known that many children test positive for HSV 1, but smaller number of children test positive for HSV-2, which sometimes is transmitted the ways HSV -1 is transmitted (not necessarily through sex).




if a child tests positive for HSV-2 CPS needs to be contacted immediately.


An investigation by child protective services probably would be a good idea, but quite a few of the investigations of kids with HSV2 would show that the kid probably was not abused and just got a kiss from a family member or shared a bottle with a kid at school. Genital herpes is a sexually transmitted disease but it is also a non-sexually transmitted disease. Some people get it in their mouths even if their mouths don't touch genitals. That's all I'm saying.



Only 11% of adults have HSV2. Pls provide data on how many kids have HSV2 since birth. It’s very uncommon and likely cause is sex abuse


It is the reason they test you for it during pregnancy. It is not only possible but very likely to pass that onto your newborn during a vaginal birth if you're having an outbreak. Please educate yourself.





You go and educate yourself: HSV2 percentage by age is well researched: 0.8% in children (as you describe, transfer during birth). And they it grows exponentially when these children become sexually active.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/facts-about-herpes-5443000#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20CDC%2C%20around%201%20in,other%20STIs%2C%20including%20HIV%20*%20Neonatal%20HSV

Please, note that distribution varies greatly by race: only 8% of white men have HSV2 and 14% of white women. It's even lower in Asian population, likely due to conservative nature of population. I date primarily while and Asian men, and never came across ANYONE positive for HSV2


So as long as you now know that HSV2 can be transmitted during birth and does not immediately mean that a child was abused, as you originally claimed.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Clinic says:

"Oral herpes is a viral infection, and the herpes simplex virus (HSV) is the specific virus responsible. There are two types of HSV (HSV-1 and HSV-2). Both types can cause oral herpes, but HSV-1 causes most cases."

A doctor I know also said this. Of course, it is well known that many children test positive for HSV 1, but smaller number of children test positive for HSV-2, which sometimes is transmitted the ways HSV -1 is transmitted (not necessarily through sex).




if a child tests positive for HSV-2 CPS needs to be contacted immediately.


An investigation by child protective services probably would be a good idea, but quite a few of the investigations of kids with HSV2 would show that the kid probably was not abused and just got a kiss from a family member or shared a bottle with a kid at school. Genital herpes is a sexually transmitted disease but it is also a non-sexually transmitted disease. Some people get it in their mouths even if their mouths don't touch genitals. That's all I'm saying.



Only 11% of adults have HSV2. Pls provide data on how many kids have HSV2 since birth. It’s very uncommon and likely cause is sex abuse


It is the reason they test you for it during pregnancy. It is not only possible but very likely to pass that onto your newborn during a vaginal birth if you're having an outbreak. Please educate yourself.





You go and educate yourself: HSV2 percentage by age is well researched: 0.8% in children (as you describe, transfer during birth). And they it grows exponentially when these children become sexually active.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/facts-about-herpes-5443000#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20CDC%2C%20around%201%20in,other%20STIs%2C%20including%20HIV%20*%20Neonatal%20HSV

Please, note that distribution varies greatly by race: only 8% of white men have HSV2 and 14% of white women. It's even lower in Asian population, likely due to conservative nature of population. I date primarily while and Asian men, and never came across ANYONE positive for HSV2


So as long as you now know that HSV2 can be transmitted during birth and does not immediately mean that a child was abused, as you originally claimed.


It would be documented of a child got it from its mother during birth. If a child didn’t and then tests positive at like 5, then there is a major cause for concern. Do you know how low of a number 0.8% is? It unlikely you would EVER come across this situation. So yeah it pretty much does mean it’s an immediate cause for concern if it’s not a known transfer from birth situation.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Clinic says:

"Oral herpes is a viral infection, and the herpes simplex virus (HSV) is the specific virus responsible. There are two types of HSV (HSV-1 and HSV-2). Both types can cause oral herpes, but HSV-1 causes most cases."

A doctor I know also said this. Of course, it is well known that many children test positive for HSV 1, but smaller number of children test positive for HSV-2, which sometimes is transmitted the ways HSV -1 is transmitted (not necessarily through sex).




if a child tests positive for HSV-2 CPS needs to be contacted immediately.


An investigation by child protective services probably would be a good idea, but quite a few of the investigations of kids with HSV2 would show that the kid probably was not abused and just got a kiss from a family member or shared a bottle with a kid at school. Genital herpes is a sexually transmitted disease but it is also a non-sexually transmitted disease. Some people get it in their mouths even if their mouths don't touch genitals. That's all I'm saying.



Only 11% of adults have HSV2. Pls provide data on how many kids have HSV2 since birth. It’s very uncommon and likely cause is sex abuse


It is the reason they test you for it during pregnancy. It is not only possible but very likely to pass that onto your newborn during a vaginal birth if you're having an outbreak. Please educate yourself.





You go and educate yourself: HSV2 percentage by age is well researched: 0.8% in children (as you describe, transfer during birth). And they it grows exponentially when these children become sexually active.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/facts-about-herpes-5443000#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20CDC%2C%20around%201%20in,other%20STIs%2C%20including%20HIV%20*%20Neonatal%20HSV

Please, note that distribution varies greatly by race: only 8% of white men have HSV2 and 14% of white women. It's even lower in Asian population, likely due to conservative nature of population. I date primarily while and Asian men, and never came across ANYONE positive for HSV2


So as long as you now know that HSV2 can be transmitted during birth and does not immediately mean that a child was abused, as you originally claimed.


It would be documented of a child got it from its mother during birth. If a child didn’t and then tests positive at like 5, then there is a major cause for concern. Do you know how low of a number 0.8% is? It unlikely you would EVER come across this situation. So yeah it pretty much does mean it’s an immediate cause for concern if it’s not a known transfer from birth situation.


Again, NO IT DOES NOT. So much misinformation. How do you know it would be documented? Perhaps the mother was not tested, perhaps she got HSV2 after she was initially tested and doesn't even know she has it. It is literally the same with hep B vaccine and why we give to infants in the hospital before they even leave. Furthermore, how does the person reporting the child to CPS even know if the parent has HSV2?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Clinic says:

"Oral herpes is a viral infection, and the herpes simplex virus (HSV) is the specific virus responsible. There are two types of HSV (HSV-1 and HSV-2). Both types can cause oral herpes, but HSV-1 causes most cases."

A doctor I know also said this. Of course, it is well known that many children test positive for HSV 1, but smaller number of children test positive for HSV-2, which sometimes is transmitted the ways HSV -1 is transmitted (not necessarily through sex).




if a child tests positive for HSV-2 CPS needs to be contacted immediately.


An investigation by child protective services probably would be a good idea, but quite a few of the investigations of kids with HSV2 would show that the kid probably was not abused and just got a kiss from a family member or shared a bottle with a kid at school. Genital herpes is a sexually transmitted disease but it is also a non-sexually transmitted disease. Some people get it in their mouths even if their mouths don't touch genitals. That's all I'm saying.



Only 11% of adults have HSV2. Pls provide data on how many kids have HSV2 since birth. It’s very uncommon and likely cause is sex abuse


It is the reason they test you for it during pregnancy. It is not only possible but very likely to pass that onto your newborn during a vaginal birth if you're having an outbreak. Please educate yourself.





You go and educate yourself: HSV2 percentage by age is well researched: 0.8% in children (as you describe, transfer during birth). And they it grows exponentially when these children become sexually active.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/facts-about-herpes-5443000#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20CDC%2C%20around%201%20in,other%20STIs%2C%20including%20HIV%20*%20Neonatal%20HSV

Please, note that distribution varies greatly by race: only 8% of white men have HSV2 and 14% of white women. It's even lower in Asian population, likely due to conservative nature of population. I date primarily while and Asian men, and never came across ANYONE positive for HSV2


So as long as you now know that HSV2 can be transmitted during birth and does not immediately mean that a child was abused, as you originally claimed.


There is 99.2% chance that the child was sexually abused
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Clinic says:

"Oral herpes is a viral infection, and the herpes simplex virus (HSV) is the specific virus responsible. There are two types of HSV (HSV-1 and HSV-2). Both types can cause oral herpes, but HSV-1 causes most cases."

A doctor I know also said this. Of course, it is well known that many children test positive for HSV 1, but smaller number of children test positive for HSV-2, which sometimes is transmitted the ways HSV -1 is transmitted (not necessarily through sex).




if a child tests positive for HSV-2 CPS needs to be contacted immediately.


An investigation by child protective services probably would be a good idea, but quite a few of the investigations of kids with HSV2 would show that the kid probably was not abused and just got a kiss from a family member or shared a bottle with a kid at school. Genital herpes is a sexually transmitted disease but it is also a non-sexually transmitted disease. Some people get it in their mouths even if their mouths don't touch genitals. That's all I'm saying.



Only 11% of adults have HSV2. Pls provide data on how many kids have HSV2 since birth. It’s very uncommon and likely cause is sex abuse


It is the reason they test you for it during pregnancy. It is not only possible but very likely to pass that onto your newborn during a vaginal birth if you're having an outbreak. Please educate yourself.





You go and educate yourself: HSV2 percentage by age is well researched: 0.8% in children (as you describe, transfer during birth). And they it grows exponentially when these children become sexually active.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/facts-about-herpes-5443000#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20CDC%2C%20around%201%20in,other%20STIs%2C%20including%20HIV%20*%20Neonatal%20HSV

Please, note that distribution varies greatly by race: only 8% of white men have HSV2 and 14% of white women. It's even lower in Asian population, likely due to conservative nature of population. I date primarily while and Asian men, and never came across ANYONE positive for HSV2


So as long as you now know that HSV2 can be transmitted during birth and does not immediately mean that a child was abused, as you originally claimed.


There is 99.2% chance that the child was sexually abused


Please post the source of this information.
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Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


false positive is better than a false negative.


What? No, it's not.


What? It exactly is. I'd rather be taking precautions because somebody had a false positive (and basically we'll never get it) than NOT be taking precautions because of a false negative (we'll both get it then).

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


false positive is better than a false negative.


What? No, it's not.


What? It exactly is. I'd rather be taking precautions because somebody had a false positive (and basically we'll never get it) than NOT be taking precautions because of a false negative (we'll both get it then).



Agree. i’m not sure why this wasn’t obvious to the pp.
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Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


false positive is better than a false negative.


What? No, it's not.


What? It exactly is. I'd rather be taking precautions because somebody had a false positive (and basically we'll never get it) than NOT be taking precautions because of a false negative (we'll both get it then).



Agree. i’m not sure why this wasn’t obvious to the pp.


Because both are bad, years of stigma and rejection aren't great either.
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Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


HSV blood tests have a high false positive rate of about 20%. Swab tests on blisters are highly accurate, but of course you need a blister to perform one of them.


false positive is better than a false negative.


What? No, it's not.


What? It exactly is. I'd rather be taking precautions because somebody had a false positive (and basically we'll never get it) than NOT be taking precautions because of a false negative (we'll both get it then).



Agree. i’m not sure why this wasn’t obvious to the pp.


Because both are bad, years of stigma and rejection aren't great either.


Still better than thinking you don’t and spreading it further.
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Anonymous wrote:Lot's of posters in denial. You either likely have dormant HSV1, HSV2, HPV, or you are sleeping with someone who is infected lol

There is a reason why a standard std panel doesn't test for HSV.


I actually think it’s just a couple people on the thread who have it and want to make it seem like way less than a big deal than it actually is. Most people dating these days are pretty serious about sexual health(at least the people I know in the 30s and 40s groups) and I personally wouldn’t be with anyone before a full std panel which included both Herpes types. And it seems pretty standard.


You can request to be tested for HSV, but it's certainly not standard. It's not exactly a reliable test anyway and the psychological impact generally outweighs any potential health benefit. You should probably be more concerned about HPV. And unless they just invented an HPV test for men, good luck with that. Anyone who thinks they aren't actually at risk and are totally clean are kidding themselves.


In the majority of people-HPV doesn’t cause any visible symptoms and as a woman I get tested for it every year plus with my pap smear that’s considered highly reliable to detect if further testing is needed for cell changes. So yeah unfortunately the HPV worries are on a woman but being exposed to HSV-2 and having painful outbreaks of sores is far worse. But you know that-you are just trying to convince everybody that they already have it which is just simply not the case. And the HSV tests i’ve taken have said they are 99% accurate-so i’m not really sure why you think they are unreliable-they aren’t any more unreliable than any other std test.


It's kind of a bogus premise. Most people with HSV-2 don't even know they have it and never have an outbreak. So if your partner never has an outbreak and the probability of you having an outbreak is low if you contract it, there are worse things to be concerned about.
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