Son was called a monkey by a Hispanic child

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure how to say this in an inoffensive way but I’ll try . . .

It could very well be a cultural thing without any ill intent. Latinos simply do not have the same, shall we say, sensitivities when it comes to these kinds of things. They will refer to others in Spanish by references to race, weight, and other physical attributes and mean nothing of it. If your eyes are even slightly slanted, for example, your nickname will often be “Chino.” I could go on.

All I’m saying is that you really shouldn’t place much stock in what a 9 or 10 year old Salvadoran kid might say. It’s just a different way of thinking than native born Americans are accustomed to.

Yes, imported racism and colorism? Why does that fact that a Latino is being racist make it ok, just because as you say, it is part of their culture?

I’m not going to argue with you about this. I’m merely stating a fact about Latino culture from someone who knows it well. My point stands: there’s a different level of sensitivity in Latino culture when it comes to these things, and it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a more racist or colorist culture in the pejorative sense.

I am not asking you to argue, I am informing you and others. Just because a group chuckles at casual racism doesn't mean that what it happening is not racism and harmful. "Everyone does it" and "It is a part of our culture" is not a defense.

You just don’t get it. For starters, there’s rarely “chuckling” involved. It’s not really meant to be funny.

No, your argument of well this is just what hispanics do, it's part of their culture, and we just have to accept it, is offensive. Just because Hispanics are becoming a significant majority, doesn't mean that we have to just say ok to all parts of hispanic culture.

You’re missing the point again. I’m not saying that we should just accept it because it’s what they do. I’m saying that because it’s what’s they do that you shouldn’t immediately get all up in arms about it and assume bad intent. There’s a difference.

This doesn't make any sense. If this made sense, we could use this logic to explain away anything anyone does bad. He beats his wife, he doesn't have bad intent, that is just what is done in his village. She cheats on exams, she doesn't have bad intent, that is just what is done in her country...on and on.

Oh please. A 9 year old called another 9 year old a monkey. We don’t know if it’s because of race. He might call an Asian kid a monkey. Who the hell knows. Apparently OP’s son himself didn’t think anything of it until he heard it on TV. It’s not like he came home and said “mom, a friend made a racist comment to me today.”’

This isn’t beating you wife and excusing it because in your culture you beat your wife. That’s ridiculous. It’s a 9 year old boy who maybe can use a little help.

OP is approaching this much more intelligently and maturely than many of the posters, and it’s her kid. Kudos,’OP.

I am more concerned about the feelings of and justice for the little 9 year old AA boy. Once the other little boy is spoken to about his wrongdoing I bet he won't call little black boys "monkeys" again.

Again we don’t even know whether OP’s son gave it a second thought or even knew it was racially offensive before hearing it on NPR.

Well he knows now. Just like the little boy who called him a money knew it was a racialized statement all along.

Hopefully the little boy learns from the rebuke coming to him. Don't know why this is so offensive to some of you. Lots of posts on here about Asian parents advocating for their kids when xenophobic or racialized statements are made against them, but for a black kid, everyone here is telling his mom to tell the kid to just suck it up. Nope.

Whatever. I should have known better than to think it’s possible to have a reasonable discussion about something like this on this website.

For all we know the poor kid’s family is currently cowering in fear over ICE. So, yea, let’s drag the poor 9 year old to the principal’s office and freak the family out a little more. That’ll help.

Enough, troll. We know you don't care about racism against Black people. If you continue posting, I'm going to report you to Jeff, and this whole thread will likely end up getting shut down.

There’s no law that requires people to care about racism against Black people.

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As with a lot of things these days, context is important. And a white or Hispanic kid calling a Black kid a monkey has far different implications than a white kid saying that to another white kid. We are doing a disservice to all of our kids when we act like these implications don't exist or we feign ignorance of what it means.

Since the kids are 9, and it sounds like the kid who said it is from another country, there is a good chance the kid wasn't aware of the implications. Seems like a teachable moment. I'd let the teacher know.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure how to say this in an inoffensive way but I’ll try . . .

It could very well be a cultural thing without any ill intent. Latinos simply do not have the same, shall we say, sensitivities when it comes to these kinds of things. They will refer to others in Spanish by references to race, weight, and other physical attributes and mean nothing of it. If your eyes are even slightly slanted, for example, your nickname will often be “Chino.” I could go on.

All I’m saying is that you really shouldn’t place much stock in what a 9 or 10 year old Salvadoran kid might say. It’s just a different way of thinking than native born Americans are accustomed to.

Yes, imported racism and colorism? Why does that fact that a Latino is being racist make it ok, just because as you say, it is part of their culture?

I’m not going to argue with you about this. I’m merely stating a fact about Latino culture from someone who knows it well. My point stands: there’s a different level of sensitivity in Latino culture when it comes to these things, and it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a more racist or colorist culture in the pejorative sense.

I am not asking you to argue, I am informing you and others. Just because a group chuckles at casual racism doesn't mean that what it happening is not racism and harmful. "Everyone does it" and "It is a part of our culture" is not a defense.

You just don’t get it. For starters, there’s rarely “chuckling” involved. It’s not really meant to be funny.

No, your argument of well this is just what hispanics do, it's part of their culture, and we just have to accept it, is offensive. Just because Hispanics are becoming a significant majority, doesn't mean that we have to just say ok to all parts of hispanic culture.

You’re missing the point again. I’m not saying that we should just accept it because it’s what they do. I’m saying that because it’s what’s they do that you shouldn’t immediately get all up in arms about it and assume bad intent. There’s a difference.

This doesn't make any sense. If this made sense, we could use this logic to explain away anything anyone does bad. He beats his wife, he doesn't have bad intent, that is just what is done in his village. She cheats on exams, she doesn't have bad intent, that is just what is done in her country...on and on.

Oh please. A 9 year old called another 9 year old a monkey. We don’t know if it’s because of race. He might call an Asian kid a monkey. Who the hell knows. Apparently OP’s son himself didn’t think anything of it until he heard it on TV. It’s not like he came home and said “mom, a friend made a racist comment to me today.”’

This isn’t beating you wife and excusing it because in your culture you beat your wife. That’s ridiculous. It’s a 9 year old boy who maybe can use a little help.

OP is approaching this much more intelligently and maturely than many of the posters, and it’s her kid. Kudos,’OP.

I am more concerned about the feelings of and justice for the little 9 year old AA boy. Once the other little boy is spoken to about his wrongdoing I bet he won't call little black boys "monkeys" again.

Again we don’t even know whether OP’s son gave it a second thought or even knew it was racially offensive before hearing it on NPR.

Well he knows now. Just like the little boy who called him a money knew it was a racialized statement all along.

Hopefully the little boy learns from the rebuke coming to him. Don't know why this is so offensive to some of you. Lots of posts on here about Asian parents advocating for their kids when xenophobic or racialized statements are made against them, but for a black kid, everyone here is telling his mom to tell the kid to just suck it up. Nope.

Whatever. I should have known better than to think it’s possible to have a reasonable discussion about something like this on this website.

For all we know the poor kid’s family is currently cowering in fear over ICE. So, yea, let’s drag the poor 9 year old to the principal’s office and freak the family out a little more. That’ll help.

Enough, troll. We know you don't care about racism against Black people. If you continue posting, I'm going to report you to Jeff, and this whole thread will likely end up getting shut down.

There’s no law that requires people to care about racism against Black people.

Yes we know you don't care, but then don't tell us that the racism being described here isn't racism, because that is insulting our intelligence and betraying. That's the issue. But if your logic is I don't care about racism against black people=racism against black people therefore cannot exist because it literally doesn't matter, then just say that.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm white, so perhaps clueless. Regarding what's been posted above: Sure, it's possible a 9-year-old doesn't understand he's being offensive, even if he has correctly picked up from others that "monkey" is a word used only for people with a certain skin color.

But the thing is, in our culture he's being offensive. And while it's great when another 9-year-old feels confident enough to call out racist and other offensive behavior when they see it, I don't think it's right to lay the burden of correcting this behavior on a 9-year-old-- particularly the one who's the target of the offensive behavior. It's really not OP's kid's job to school other kids in this way.

So I think if I were OP, I would tell the teacher, because it is actually their job to deal with things like this. Maybe this kid is acting out of ignorance rather than malice (although malice certainly possible with kids this age); either way, it's not appropriate in school (or ever) and the teacher should know its happening.

Except you’re wrong. It’s not true that “monkey is only used for people with a certain skin color.” Especially when it comes to kids. What’s true is that it’s only offensive when used against people of a certain skin color. Kids call kids monkeys all the time.

I have never heard a kid call another kid a monkey. This isn't an all the time thing. And since it's not really kid slang, if I did hear it, it would seem most likely it would be used as a slur.

It’s not always a slur. Plenty of onesies say “Mommy’s little monkey” on them. My toddler’s favorite t-shirt had a picture of a monkey wearing headphones. I think it was from Carters. I used to call my kids little monkeys.

Context is very important. My son came home telling me his friend said it’s racist to call a black child a monkey. I said, “Yes it is.” He asked, “But he can call me a monkey, and it’s not racist?” I said, “Yes.”

There is a chance the Hispanic child was being racist. There is a chance he was ignorant. With a 9yo, it’s not necessary to jump to the conclusion that a child meant racism. However it is time for children to become more educated. It’s a teachable moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who was raised in the U.S. claiming that they've never heard there are racial implications in calling an African American a monkey is full of it. Even if you weren't aware of it growing up (although even that seems far-fetched), do you not recall how certain media outlets were blasted for saying Obama looked like a monkey (or maybe it was Michelle)? It was big news at the time.

Agree. So many white people are failing. This thread is failing.

--white lady

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Chango is a common childish insult among Hispanics. Doesn't always have racial phenotype connotations.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who was raised in the U.S. claiming that they've never heard there are racial implications in calling an African American a monkey is full of it. Even if you weren't aware of it growing up (although even that seems far-fetched), do you not recall how certain media outlets were blasted for saying Obama looked like a monkey (or maybe it was Michelle)? It was big news at the time.

Agree. So many white people are failing. This thread is failing.

--white lady

You’re failing. The child is being raised by parents who were not raised in America. When Obama was president, this child was 1 years old. No, he does not remember anything about Obama being a monkey. Parents may have been busy working and didn’t know.

Being an immigrant means you’re learning about a different culture, white lady.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who was raised in the U.S. claiming that they've never heard there are racial implications in calling an African American a monkey is full of it. Even if you weren't aware of it growing up (although even that seems far-fetched), do you not recall how certain media outlets were blasted for saying Obama looked like a monkey (or maybe it was Michelle)? It was big news at the time.

Agree. So many white people are failing. This thread is failing.

--white lady

You’re failing. The child is being raised by parents who were not raised in America. When Obama was president, this child was 1 years old. No, he does not remember anything about Obama being a monkey. Parents may have been busy working and didn’t know.

Being an immigrant means you’re learning about a different culture, white lady.

DP. Go back and read the posts above yours. You seem confused. The posts were talking about people raised in the U.S.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - I’m just collecting advice - this all came up because I was listening to
npr in the background and they were covering the Kansas young republicans and they mentioned that one person referred to black people as monkeys. My son goes “‘ mom xyz called me a monkey”. I said “ really? What do you do?” He goes “ nothing. I just ignored him”

Here’s a blog post that I just dug up that touches on this issue and that you might find helpful. Be warned in advance that the author (who is African American) makes reference to the “n” word in it.

https://www.oneikathetraveller.com/when-he-called-me-negrita.html

Read the article..."monkey" does not fall into this category. In any event, if the U.S. is becoming a latin American country, I want out. I am (a black person) obviously am not seen as worthy in this cuture.

A little dramatic don’t you think? We’re talking about a nine year old.

White people have racism, Black people have racism, Latinos have racism, Asians are racist. The White racism has been the worst because they were here first and some of them want to keep power and now Trump is very open about it.

Racism is more open in other countries and many bring it here. It’s not the viscous kind like the KKK or the Deep South in the 50s. It’s more like Asians don’t want their kids to be friends with non-Asians. Latinos have beefs with other Latinos from neighboring countries. Black women with a White parent used to complain that they weren’t accepted in certain Black communities.

Some Latinos don’t think the Black community is not doing enough about ICE abuse. They are deporting while some of these immigrants are waiting for a court date or something simple as an expired document.

It doesn’t serve any purpose to claim one is worse than the other. This name calling is in all elementary and middle schools. Parents need to go a better job in taking preventative measures instead of waiting for it to happen.

-we black people didn't tell advise anyone to be in a deportable status here, there is no negro community-wide conspiracy to transform people into illegal aliens (oh, and by the way, an "expired document" means you can be deported.)
-Latinos seem to be able to actively resist arrest (by federal law enforcement) and are encouraged to do so by the liberal masses, and are sympathized with when ultimately all their resisting and carrying on doesn’t work, but black people would never be able to get away with this--we would get shot while resisting and scolded by the public for not respecting law enforcement. So no, we can't help you "resist" (and who said we wanted to anyway?)
-why is "not helping" against ICE seen as racism? That doesn't make sense. Follow immigration law and all will be well. Yes, we African Americans do not have an immigrant background, we have never been immigrants, and their may be some resentment of that, that all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all.

"all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all" say that to the Black Chicagoans who had their doors busted down and children ziptied naked just because they had Latino neighbors. Don't think that the white supremacists are coming just for us, we're stronger together.

Signed,
A Latino who also wants to see African Americans not get shot by law enforcement.

P.S. Just because the law says that someone can be chained up and sent back to where they came, doesn't mean its moral. See: the Fugitive Slave Act.

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My POC kid just told me her very Hispanic friend said “I don’t like brown people” and they are both brown - kids say dumb stuff all the time. If you are present, correct them. If you are not, chill. If the kid repeats the term, bring it up to the teacher. Y’all going DEFCON on kids is annoying and yes, people avoid you.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - I’m just collecting advice - this all came up because I was listening to
npr in the background and they were covering the Kansas young republicans and they mentioned that one person referred to black people as monkeys. My son goes “‘ mom xyz called me a monkey”. I said “ really? What do you do?” He goes “ nothing. I just ignored him”

Here’s a blog post that I just dug up that touches on this issue and that you might find helpful. Be warned in advance that the author (who is African American) makes reference to the “n” word in it.

https://www.oneikathetraveller.com/when-he-called-me-negrita.html

Read the article..."monkey" does not fall into this category. In any event, if the U.S. is becoming a latin American country, I want out. I am (a black person) obviously am not seen as worthy in this cuture.

A little dramatic don’t you think? We’re talking about a nine year old.

White people have racism, Black people have racism, Latinos have racism, Asians are racist. The White racism has been the worst because they were here first and some of them want to keep power and now Trump is very open about it.

Racism is more open in other countries and many bring it here. It’s not the viscous kind like the KKK or the Deep South in the 50s. It’s more like Asians don’t want their kids to be friends with non-Asians. Latinos have beefs with other Latinos from neighboring countries. Black women with a White parent used to complain that they weren’t accepted in certain Black communities.

Some Latinos don’t think the Black community is not doing enough about ICE abuse. They are deporting while some of these immigrants are waiting for a court date or something simple as an expired document.

It doesn’t serve any purpose to claim one is worse than the other. This name calling is in all elementary and middle schools. Parents need to go a better job in taking preventative measures instead of waiting for it to happen.

-we black people didn't tell advise anyone to be in a deportable status here, there is no negro community-wide conspiracy to transform people into illegal aliens (oh, and by the way, an "expired document" means you can be deported.)
-Latinos seem to be able to actively resist arrest (by federal law enforcement) and are encouraged to do so by the liberal masses, and are sympathized with when ultimately all their resisting and carrying on doesn’t work, but black people would never be able to get away with this--we would get shot while resisting and scolded by the public for not respecting law enforcement. So no, we can't help you "resist" (and who said we wanted to anyway?)
-why is "not helping" against ICE seen as racism? That doesn't make sense. Follow immigration law and all will be well. Yes, we African Americans do not have an immigrant background, we have never been immigrants, and their may be some resentment of that, that all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all.

"all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all" say that to the Black Chicagoans who had their doors busted down and children ziptied naked just because they had Latino neighbors. Don't think that the white supremacists are coming just for us, we're stronger together.

Signed,
A Latino who also wants to see African Americans not get shot by law enforcement.

P.S. Just because the law says that someone can be chained up and sent back to where they came, doesn't mean it’s moral. See: the Fugitive Slave Act.

wth? Equating chattel slavery to illegal immigration has to be the gnarliest lapse of logic I’ve ever seen on dcum

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Anonymous wrote:I'm white, so perhaps clueless. Regarding what's been posted above: Sure, it's possible a 9-year-old doesn't understand he's being offensive, even if he has correctly picked up from others that "monkey" is a word used only for people with a certain skin color.

But the thing is, in our culture he's being offensive. And while it's great when another 9-year-old feels confident enough to call out racist and other offensive behavior when they see it, I don't think it's right to lay the burden of correcting this behavior on a 9-year-old-- particularly the one who's the target of the offensive behavior. It's really not OP's kid's job to school other kids in this way.

So I think if I were OP, I would tell the teacher, because it is actually their job to deal with things like this. Maybe this kid is acting out of ignorance rather than malice (although malice certainly possible with kids this age); either way, it's not appropriate in school (or ever) and the teacher should know its happening.

Except you’re wrong. It’s not true that “monkey is only used for people with a certain skin color.” Especially when it comes to kids. What’s true is that it’s only offensive when used against people of a certain skin color. Kids call kids monkeys all the time.

I have never heard a kid call another kid a monkey. This isn't an all the time thing. And since it's not really kid slang, if I did hear it, it would seem most likely it would be used as a slur.

It’s not always a slur. Plenty of onesies say “Mommy’s little monkey” on them. My toddler’s favorite t-shirt had a picture of a monkey wearing headphones. I think it was from Carters. I used to call my kids little monkeys.

Context is very important. My son came home telling me his friend said it’s racist to call a black child a monkey. I said, “Yes it is.” He asked, “But he can call me a monkey, and it’s not racist?” I said, “Yes.”

There is a chance the Hispanic child was being racist. There is a chance he was ignorant. With a 9yo, it’s not necessary to jump to the conclusion that a child meant racism. However it is time for children to become more educated. It’s a teachable moment.

I agree with this. My grandmother (white) used to say we were little monkeys all the time if we were active or mischievous or climbing around. Also, in many Latin America countries, mono (money) is a term of endearment. Calling someone “muy mono” means they are really cute/stylish/good looking. If he’s translating directly from Spanish, that would be monkey.

I think it’s just hard to know the intent without the context, and kids often lack the cultural context or have different cultural context. I also think there’s a difference between refrrrjng to a child this way (as if many imply playfulness or mischievousnesss) and referring to an adult this way (where its more likely to be used to imply stupidity or subhuman behavior).

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - I’m just collecting advice - this all came up because I was listening to
npr in the background and they were covering the Kansas young republicans and they mentioned that one person referred to black people as monkeys. My son goes “‘ mom xyz called me a monkey”. I said “ really? What do you do?” He goes “ nothing. I just ignored him”

Here’s a blog post that I just dug up that touches on this issue and that you might find helpful. Be warned in advance that the author (who is African American) makes reference to the “n” word in it.

https://www.oneikathetraveller.com/when-he-called-me-negrita.html

Read the article..."monkey" does not fall into this category. In any event, if the U.S. is becoming a latin American country, I want out. I am (a black person) obviously am not seen as worthy in this cuture.

A little dramatic don’t you think? We’re talking about a nine year old.

White people have racism, Black people have racism, Latinos have racism, Asians are racist. The White racism has been the worst because they were here first and some of them want to keep power and now Trump is very open about it.

Racism is more open in other countries and many bring it here. It’s not the viscous kind like the KKK or the Deep South in the 50s. It’s more like Asians don’t want their kids to be friends with non-Asians. Latinos have beefs with other Latinos from neighboring countries. Black women with a White parent used to complain that they weren’t accepted in certain Black communities.

Some Latinos don’t think the Black community is not doing enough about ICE abuse. They are deporting while some of these immigrants are waiting for a court date or something simple as an expired document.

It doesn’t serve any purpose to claim one is worse than the other. This name calling is in all elementary and middle schools. Parents need to go a better job in taking preventative measures instead of waiting for it to happen.

-we black people didn't tell advise anyone to be in a deportable status here, there is no negro community-wide conspiracy to transform people into illegal aliens (oh, and by the way, an "expired document" means you can be deported.)
-Latinos seem to be able to actively resist arrest (by federal law enforcement) and are encouraged to do so by the liberal masses, and are sympathized with when ultimately all their resisting and carrying on doesn’t work, but black people would never be able to get away with this--we would get shot while resisting and scolded by the public for not respecting law enforcement. So no, we can't help you "resist" (and who said we wanted to anyway?)
-why is "not helping" against ICE seen as racism? That doesn't make sense. Follow immigration law and all will be well. Yes, we African Americans do not have an immigrant background, we have never been immigrants, and their may be some resentment of that, that all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all.

"all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all" say that to the Black Chicagoans who had their doors busted down and children ziptied naked just because they had Latino neighbors. Don't think that the white supremacists are coming just for us, we're stronger together.

Signed,
A Latino who also wants to see African Americans not get shot by law enforcement.

P.S. Just because the law says that someone can be chained up and sent back to where they came, doesn't mean it’s moral. See: the Fugitive Slave Act.

wth? Equating chattel slavery to illegal immigration has to be the gnarliest lapse of logic I’ve ever seen on dcum

If you can't see the moral parallels and a broader point about the difference between what is legal and what is moral, then maybe you're the one with a gnarly lapse of logic.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - I’m just collecting advice - this all came up because I was listening to
npr in the background and they were covering the Kansas young republicans and they mentioned that one person referred to black people as monkeys. My son goes “‘ mom xyz called me a monkey”. I said “ really? What do you do?” He goes “ nothing. I just ignored him”

Here’s a blog post that I just dug up that touches on this issue and that you might find helpful. Be warned in advance that the author (who is African American) makes reference to the “n” word in it.

https://www.oneikathetraveller.com/when-he-called-me-negrita.html

Read the article..."monkey" does not fall into this category. In any event, if the U.S. is becoming a latin American country, I want out. I am (a black person) obviously am not seen as worthy in this cuture.

A little dramatic don’t you think? We’re talking about a nine year old.

White people have racism, Black people have racism, Latinos have racism, Asians are racist. The White racism has been the worst because they were here first and some of them want to keep power and now Trump is very open about it.

Racism is more open in other countries and many bring it here. It’s not the viscous kind like the KKK or the Deep South in the 50s. It’s more like Asians don’t want their kids to be friends with non-Asians. Latinos have beefs with other Latinos from neighboring countries. Black women with a White parent used to complain that they weren’t accepted in certain Black communities.

Some Latinos don’t think the Black community is not doing enough about ICE abuse. They are deporting while some of these immigrants are waiting for a court date or something simple as an expired document.

It doesn’t serve any purpose to claim one is worse than the other. This name calling is in all elementary and middle schools. Parents need to go a better job in taking preventative measures instead of waiting for it to happen.

-we black people didn't tell advise anyone to be in a deportable status here, there is no negro community-wide conspiracy to transform people into illegal aliens (oh, and by the way, an "expired document" means you can be deported.)
-Latinos seem to be able to actively resist arrest (by federal law enforcement) and are encouraged to do so by the liberal masses, and are sympathized with when ultimately all their resisting and carrying on doesn’t work, but black people would never be able to get away with this--we would get shot while resisting and scolded by the public for not respecting law enforcement. So no, we can't help you "resist" (and who said we wanted to anyway?)
-why is "not helping" against ICE seen as racism? That doesn't make sense. Follow immigration law and all will be well. Yes, we African Americans do not have an immigrant background, we have never been immigrants, and their may be some resentment of that, that all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all.

"all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all" say that to the Black Chicagoans who had their doors busted down and children ziptied naked just because they had Latino neighbors. Don't think that the white supremacists are coming just for us, we're stronger together.

Signed,
A Latino who also wants to see African Americans not get shot by law enforcement.

P.S. Just because the law says that someone can be chained up and sent back to where they came, doesn't mean it’s moral. See: the Fugitive Slave Act.

This has nothing to do with African Americans so stop the fearmongering.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here - I’m just collecting advice - this all came up because I was listening to
npr in the background and they were covering the Kansas young republicans and they mentioned that one person referred to black people as monkeys. My son goes “‘ mom xyz called me a monkey”. I said “ really? What do you do?” He goes “ nothing. I just ignored him”

Here’s a blog post that I just dug up that touches on this issue and that you might find helpful. Be warned in advance that the author (who is African American) makes reference to the “n” word in it.

https://www.oneikathetraveller.com/when-he-called-me-negrita.html

Read the article..."monkey" does not fall into this category. In any event, if the U.S. is becoming a latin American country, I want out. I am (a black person) obviously am not seen as worthy in this cuture.

A little dramatic don’t you think? We’re talking about a nine year old.

White people have racism, Black people have racism, Latinos have racism, Asians are racist. The White racism has been the worst because they were here first and some of them want to keep power and now Trump is very open about it.

Racism is more open in other countries and many bring it here. It’s not the viscous kind like the KKK or the Deep South in the 50s. It’s more like Asians don’t want their kids to be friends with non-Asians. Latinos have beefs with other Latinos from neighboring countries. Black women with a White parent used to complain that they weren’t accepted in certain Black communities.

Some Latinos don’t think the Black community is not doing enough about ICE abuse. They are deporting while some of these immigrants are waiting for a court date or something simple as an expired document.

It doesn’t serve any purpose to claim one is worse than the other. This name calling is in all elementary and middle schools. Parents need to go a better job in taking preventative measures instead of waiting for it to happen.

-we black people didn't tell advise anyone to be in a deportable status here, there is no negro community-wide conspiracy to transform people into illegal aliens (oh, and by the way, an "expired document" means you can be deported.)
-Latinos seem to be able to actively resist arrest (by federal law enforcement) and are encouraged to do so by the liberal masses, and are sympathized with when ultimately all their resisting and carrying on doesn’t work, but black people would never be able to get away with this--we would get shot while resisting and scolded by the public for not respecting law enforcement. So no, we can't help you "resist" (and who said we wanted to anyway?)
-why is "not helping" against ICE seen as racism? That doesn't make sense. Follow immigration law and all will be well. Yes, we African Americans do not have an immigrant background, we have never been immigrants, and their may be some resentment of that, that all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all.

"all of this ICE stuff is not impacting us at all" say that to the Black Chicagoans who had their doors busted down and children ziptied naked just because they had Latino neighbors. Don't think that the white supremacists are coming just for us, we're stronger together.

Signed,
A Latino who also wants to see African Americans not get shot by law enforcement.

P.S. Just because the law says that someone can be chained up and sent back to where they came, doesn't mean it’s moral. See: the Fugitive Slave Act.

This has nothing to do with African Americans so stop the fearmongering.

As I said earlier, "say that to the Black Chicagoans who had their doors busted down and children ziptied naked just because they had Latino neighbors."

In case you are too lazy or too stupid to know or look up what I'm talking about: https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/03/us/chicago-apartment-ice-raid