Which colleges are considered the "Little Ivies"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SORRY parents of kids on these little LACs. NO your kid is NOT PART OF ANY IVY…..You can call it whatever you want. Pretend someone in the 50’s coined the term. Blablablablablabla.

Completely irrelevant. You are NOT and will NEVER BE Ivy. Sure, some SLACS are amazing, but STOP TRYING TO PRETEND YOU ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT.

Well said!

Lol

[Anonymous]

I would add cooper union

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SORRY parents of kids on these little LACs. NO your kid is NOT PART OF ANY IVY…..You can call it whatever you want. Pretend someone in the 50’s coined the term. Blablablablablabla.

Completely irrelevant. You are NOT and will NEVER BE Ivy. Sure, some SLACS are amazing, but STOP TRYING TO PRETEND YOU ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT.

Spittle screed tells us all we need to know.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart. We know you want it to be the same. It's adorable, like when a toddler puts on a plastic firefighter helmet and thinks he's a real hero.

So you're saying these little schools are amazing, elite, and prestigious schools that... can't stand on its own name? The entire brand identity is based on being a knock-off of a better brand. Congratulations on the 'Almost-Patek,' I guess.

The cringe. My God so embarrassing.

Embarrassing is come to an online forum to talk about Little Ivies as a justification for the decision to attend. Please…..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SORRY parents of kids on these little LACs. NO your kid is NOT PART OF ANY IVY…..You can call it whatever you want. Pretend someone in the 50’s coined the term. Blablablablablabla.

Completely irrelevant. You are NOT and will NEVER BE Ivy. Sure, some SLACS are amazing, but STOP TRYING TO PRETEND YOU ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT.

Spittle screed tells us all we need to know.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart. We know you want it to be the same. It's adorable, like when a toddler puts on a plastic firefighter helmet and thinks he's a real hero.

So you're saying these little schools are amazing, elite, and prestigious schools that... can't stand on its own name? The entire brand identity is based on being a knock-off of a better brand. Congratulations on the 'Almost-Patek,' I guess.

The cringe. My God so embarrassing.

Cringe is pretending the Ivy League is not just an athletic conference and accepting the fact that your school is not in it. Calling it a 'Little Ivy' is like your husband calling his golf cart a 'Little Ferrari.' It's not fooling anyone, but if the fantasy makes you happy, by all means, carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree Midd is in decline as is Trinity and Wesleyan. Colby on an upward trajectory!

Colby was ranked #11 in USNews in 2022. Last year it was 25. Doesn't sound much like an upward trajectory to me!

Colby just got a ton of money. But US News does not decide things on this front, in any event. Observers know which way certain colleges are “moving.” Midd is not in the decline because of US News methodology, but because of its own, well-documented issues.

Well discussed and well understood.

There are no “issues” at Middlebury but there was a well documented change the USNWR methodology regarding which IPEDs number was used for determining the student population which had a big impact on their resources per student calculation because the using the 12 month number added 2200 summer language school kids to their population when calculating resources per student. Forbes made a similar change and Middlebury is no longer ranked as a small school though it did not affect their overall ranking in Forbes.

So their resources per student were accurately tabulated and that’s bad?

Midd endowment per student - not counting these summer kids - is just not on the same level as top SLACs. WASP, Bowdoin, and Grinnell have way over a million in endowment per student;Washington and Lee and Wellesley, a million; Claremont McKenna and Smith, over 750k; Davidson, Hamilton, Carleton, 600k; and Midd, Colby and Reed below 500k (but Colby just got wealthier). https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SORRY parents of kids on these little LACs. NO your kid is NOT PART OF ANY IVY…..You can call it whatever you want. Pretend someone in the 50’s coined the term. Blablablablablabla.

Completely irrelevant. You are NOT and will NEVER BE Ivy. Sure, some SLACS are amazing, but STOP TRYING TO PRETEND YOU ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT.

Spittle screed tells us all we need to know.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart. We know you want it to be the same. It's adorable, like when a toddler puts on a plastic firefighter helmet and thinks he's a real hero.

So you're saying these little schools are amazing, elite, and prestigious schools that... can't stand on its own name? The entire brand identity is based on being a knock-off of a better brand. Congratulations on the 'Almost-Patek,' I guess.

hahahaha…..Love this…. +1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SORRY parents of kids on these little LACs. NO your kid is NOT PART OF ANY IVY…..You can call it whatever you want. Pretend someone in the 50’s coined the term. Blablablablablabla.

Completely irrelevant. You are NOT and will NEVER BE Ivy. Sure, some SLACS are amazing, but STOP TRYING TO PRETEND YOU ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT.

Spittle screed tells us all we need to know.

Oh, honey. Bless your heart. We know you want it to be the same. It's adorable, like when a toddler puts on a plastic firefighter helmet and thinks he's a real hero.

So you're saying these little schools are amazing, elite, and prestigious schools that... can't stand on its own name? The entire brand identity is based on being a knock-off of a better brand. Congratulations on the 'Almost-Patek,' I guess.

The cringe. My God so embarrassing.

Cringe is pretending the Ivy League is not just an athletic conference and accepting the fact that your school is not in it. Calling it a 'Little Ivy' is like your husband calling his golf cart a 'Little Ferrari.' It's not fooling anyone, but if the fantasy makes you happy, by all means, carry on.

Go off, Metaphor Queen!

[Anonymous]

The Ivy League is an athletic conference. In some sports it is a high performer but not so much in the notional revenue sports.

I am not sure what using an athletic conference as a baseline gets you analytically.

[Anonymous]

My dd recently graduated from one of these schools. We could not care less if it’s called a little Ivy. She certainly did not choose to attend because it’s a “little Ivy.” It was a great fit for her and she loved her time there. I guess some people name it as such because these are small schools with much less recognition from the general population. compared with the Ivies to show that their undergraduate education is every bit as good (if not better). It’s sad to see such obsession over the Ivies esp here on DCUm. It seems so 80s and 90s. I think the education world has moved on except here on some of these posts.

[Anonymous]

The topic of Liitle Ivies doesn't need to rely on personal interpretation. Forbes, for example, used the term in August while naming four examples (Williams, Bowdoin, Hamilton and Swarthmore).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The topic of Liitle Ivies doesn't need to rely on personal interpretation. Forbes, for example, used the term in August while naming four examples (Williams, Bowdoin, Hamilton and Swarthmore).

Right, because they feel that if they didnt say that, the vast majority of their idiotic audience would not know that these are good schools.

Doesn’t make it right to jump on someone else’s bandwagon…..it is cringey

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nice way to make yourself feel better when you don’t get into any Ivy..

Pretty sure that nobody was trying to make themselves feel better back in the 1950’s when the term was first coined. The sheer denseness of some people on this board is astounding.

And what makes you think that people didn’t want to make themselves feel better in the 1950’s?

Do you know the history of the term? It wasn’t coined by students or parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The topic of Liitle Ivies doesn't need to rely on personal interpretation. Forbes, for example, used the term in August while naming four examples (Williams, Bowdoin, Hamilton and Swarthmore).

Hamilton is surprising

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Anonymous wrote:Agree Midd is in decline as is Trinity and Wesleyan. Colby on an upward trajectory!

Colby was ranked #11 in USNews in 2022. Last year it was 25. Doesn't sound much like an upward trajectory to me!

Colby just got a ton of money. But US News does not decide things on this front, in any event. Observers know which way certain colleges are “moving.” Midd is not in the decline because of US News methodology, but because of its own, well-documented issues.

Well discussed and well understood.

There are no “issues” at Middlebury but there was a well documented change the USNWR methodology regarding which IPEDs number was used for determining the student population which had a big impact on their resources per student calculation because the using the 12 month number added 2200 summer language school kids to their population when calculating resources per student. Forbes made a similar change and Middlebury is no longer ranked as a small school though it did not affect their overall ranking in Forbes.

So their resources per student were accurately tabulated and that’s bad?

Midd endowment per student - not counting these summer kids - is just not on the same level as top SLACs. WASP, Bowdoin, and Grinnell have way over a million in endowment per student;Washington and Lee and Wellesley, a million; Claremont McKenna and Smith, over 750k; Davidson, Hamilton, Carleton, 600k; and Midd, Colby and Reed below 500k (but Colby just got wealthier). https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/

Endowment per student doesn't translate into a better educational experience. All of these schools with $1B+ endowments have enough money to provide excellent facilities, hire top talent, and provide robust financial aid packages. At a certain point, it's just hoarding, really. Princeton's endowment per student is $3.7M. Does Williams provide half as good an educational experience because its endowment per student is $1.7M?

And Colby didn't just add $150M to its endowment. They received a gift that has a specific purpose--to build a new science complex. You don't seem to know much about how endowments work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree Midd is in decline as is Trinity and Wesleyan. Colby on an upward trajectory!

Colby was ranked #11 in USNews in 2022. Last year it was 25. Doesn't sound much like an upward trajectory to me!

Colby just got a ton of money. But US News does not decide things on this front, in any event. Observers know which way certain colleges are “moving.” Midd is not in the decline because of US News methodology, but because of its own, well-documented issues.

Well discussed and well understood.

There are no “issues” at Middlebury but there was a well documented change the USNWR methodology regarding which IPEDs number was used for determining the student population which had a big impact on their resources per student calculation because the using the 12 month number added 2200 summer language school kids to their population when calculating resources per student. Forbes made a similar change and Middlebury is no longer ranked as a small school though it did not affect their overall ranking in Forbes.

So their resources per student were accurately tabulated and that’s bad?

Midd endowment per student - not counting these summer kids - is just not on the same level as top SLACs. WASP, Bowdoin, and Grinnell have way over a million in endowment per student;Washington and Lee and Wellesley, a million; Claremont McKenna and Smith, over 750k; Davidson, Hamilton, Carleton, 600k; and Midd, Colby and Reed below 500k (but Colby just got wealthier). https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/

Endowment per student doesn't translate into a better educational experience. All of these schools with $1B+ endowments have enough money to provide excellent facilities, hire top talent, and provide robust financial aid packages. At a certain point, it's just hoarding, really. Princeton's endowment per student is $3.7M. Does Williams provide half as good an educational experience because its endowment per student is $1.7M?

And Colby didn't just add $150M to its endowment. They received a gift that has a specific purpose--to build a new science complex. You don't seem to know much about how endowments work.

In terms of volumes of opportunities, I’d say 100% yes. Princeton essentially operates as a liberal arts college while having some of the best academic resources in the world.