$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

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Anonymous wrote:So, are they just going to apply for green cards directly? My experience has been that H-1b tend to be relatively unskilled, they hire them then develop skills. Like java beans or CI/CD and other proprietary or trivial open source "software skills". Then they apply for green cards after working forty hours a week for three, six or nine years. Oh, but you don't have the skills. At least they will need to do a market search and prove that there are no one available or skilled, prior to doing on the job training.

But for those who are in country capped queues it's pretty much over.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

So you support brain drain, not gain?

DP. America has no shortage of brains. We merely have a shortage of people willing to work like slaves for 60k.

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This topic appeared on one of my foreign language news sources on Facebook. I had to laugh at the following comment:

“If we had $100,000, as if we’d go to their shithole country for work…”

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Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/

Oh god. I didn’t think about that. Ugh

First they make it hard for U.S. citizens to pay for med school. Now they take away for foreign doctors who fill the gap. I guess we’ll be left with nothing. MAHA!

Again, a tacit confession that H1Bs are mainly used to hire cheap labor.

For a doctor with hard-to-find skills, a $100,000 fee is nothing.

Expect your healthcare costs to go up.

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Anonymous wrote:A handful of large consulting companies, who specialize in outsourcing, are unhappy with this fee. Be prepared for a tidal wave of fearmongering from their minions.

Accenture and Deloitte?

Deloitte: nah, they just set up shop in India but don’t bring them over here in large numbers.

[Anonymous]

Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

from reading the comments, it appears that most of DCUM have no clue what H1B is and how it has been used to screw US workers for 35 years.

how do we have a skills shortage for 35 years?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.

hmm, H1B was created in 1990.

tell me how US created Silicon Valley and excelled in high tech in the 60's and 70's and 80's without cheap disposable temporary workers?

are you really that naive or are you a Big tech bot?

[Anonymous]

RIP H1B program 1990 - 2025

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Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/

the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/

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Anonymous wrote:RIP H1B program 1990 - 2025

the sad part is again, Democrats are caught completely clueless. They abandoned US workers and now it takes an idiot like Trump to push back on the investor class/big tech.

We take jobs from our own students and give them to foreign students to increase the wealth of elites.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

Outsourcing means we don't get the income tax revenue.

I'm fine with that. All the h-1b end up in red zone real estate areas which means basically they degrade services, because they don't build more pools, schools, roads or houses, and that isn't cool. We don't want their tax money; we want spaces in our schools. Great example is the whole Harvard rat race. Only so many spots, if they go to international students, some domestic student doesn't get to go. There are many things like this. As much as they say more the merrier, it just isn't the case. Maybe in some instances, but mostly not.

I'm totally fine with corporations taking an h-1b job and offshoring it. They threaten to do so, but here is the thing. When these people work in their Native countries they won't be nearly as motivated. The companies have to work around local labor laws and practices. Like government Holidays, there are hundreds of Hindu Holidays. The workers in many cases can easily by poached. They won't be able to leverage an English-speaking workforce to train them and so on. They won't be willing to trade lower wages for a "green card" when there is no green card to be had. The foreigners aren't going to pay to go to school here in the US just to go home and work. Not to mention infrastructure. Many of the schools in India don't even really have computers or networks. They can't afford to subsidize hardware like workers do in the US, they aren't going to show up with Mac Book Pros ready to fill out your ten-page work history and Obamacare worksheet.

It changes the calculation very much working with Natives.

It won't bring back the jobs. Trump promised to do that with manufacturing jobs, and that didn't pan out, either.

Again, companies don't care about 30% efficiency or accuracy. They care about costs.

You would be amazed at how proficient in English these foreigners are. I work with teams across the world.

Not sure what obamacare worksheet has to do with this, but, I'm very thankful for obamacare. It's allowed people I know to finally get healthcare.

I thought I explained it very well. Yes, companies care about costs, they would have already done it if they could have controlled costs in that manner.

I for one get tired of having to work with people that struggle with basic English. You have to speak so slow then explain everything over and over again. Then clean up after them when they don't understand.

I think you'rre just lying to get your racist views out there. No H1B I've ever worked with was anything but proficient in English and highly educated.

That is not the case across the board. Certain cultures are very “low trust” and it shows. Maybe you’re willing to accept 30% productivity, but for half these companies that 30% is only because someone here is cracking the whip and covering for them. If that person leaves, your whole operation turns to crap and that costs you customers.

I am as anti-MAGA as it gets and I support this move. If companies really want the talent they can pay US equivalent rates to get it.

too much common sense for the DCUM anti-US worker crowd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/

the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/

The residency programs are a bottle neck. I have worked with a number of doctors that were in research because they couldn't get into a residency program. This didn't used to be a problem because the medical schools matched the number of graduates to the number of slots in the residency programs, but then many students from abroad started taking the tests in later stages so now you there were an excess number of people passing the tests.

Yes, they could open up more residency programs, but these are regulated by the Doctor professional associations. Maybe AMA, I forget which.

Answer me this, why do Doctors and Lawyers get to form guilds that protect how many people enter their respective professions and engineers don't deserve to do this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/

the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/

I am a doctor. The residency slots that go to H1B foreign medical grads are those that no US trained doctor will take. Programs would much rather take a US trained doctor than sponsor a visa, which is a hassle. It’s going to hurt the rural areas where no one wants to practice the most.

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Anonymous wrote:A handful of large consulting companies, who specialize in outsourcing, are unhappy with this fee. Be prepared for a tidal wave of fearmongering from their minions.

Accenture and Deloitte?

Deloitte: nah, they just set up shop in India but don’t bring them over here in large numbers.

The data disagrees with you. Deloitte is right up there.

https://www.careernomics.com/candidates/masters-h1b-employers-ranking.php