The United States is so unhappy now, it’s not the same anymore

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been all over the place from East to west coast. Everywhere seems depressed and dead. I keep asking everyone where the people are. Last week I was in New Orleans and there were barely any people out in the French quarter. I asked a waiter at cafe du monde what’s up (I know summers there are slow but not this slow) and he said he’s never seen it so bad. I tipped him a $20 on a $7 bill and he nearly cried. A month before I was in San Francisco and it was the same thing. Dead streets and the tourists that line up to watch the sea lions at the pier were non existent. I asked an uber driver what’s going on and he basically they said the foreign tourists didn’t come this year and everyone was hurting plus people who left during covid didn’t come back. Everyone seems depressed and hopeless. I am not pinning it squarely on Trump though. Things are not the same since Covid and this country feels like it’s never going to be the same again.

NYC, LA, and Miami seem to have as many possible as ever.

Airports in South Florida see a shift in travel as tourists react to uncertainty
https://www.miamiherald.com/living/travel/article311559411.html#storylink=cpyhttps://www.miamiherald.com/living/travel/article311559411.html
During the first half of 2025, which ended June 30, the number of passengers passing through Miami International Airport decreased when compared to the same period last year. That hasn’t happened since 2017, excluding the pandemic year of 2020.

New York City Downgrades 2025 Tourism Forecast
The city is projecting 64.1 million visitors this year, down from 67.2 million in its original forecast, equating to a loss of some $4 billion in direct spending. Together, the decrease in domestic and international visitors is estimated to result in a loss of more than $4 billion.

Major U.S. Tourism Town Faces Struggles as Visitor Numbers Lag
https://www.fodors.com/world/north-america/usa/california/experiences/news/los-angeles-a-major-u-s-tourism-town-faces-struggles-as-visitor-numbers-lag
https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Convention-and-Visitor-Bureaus/New-York-City-Downgrades-Tourism-Forecast-2025

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

Can you acknowledge that your original argument, that people are being arrested for not being white, is completely inaccurate? Of course profiling occurs. That is not the same thing as people being arrested FOR being non-white.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

This IS happening. And ICE and the rest of the stormtroopers are proud of what they are doing.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

Can you acknowledge that your original argument, that people are being arrested for not being white, is completely inaccurate? Of course profiling occurs. That is not the same thing as people being arrested FOR being non-white.

I'm the OP about that. What the F is the differnece? I don't want to live in a country that has police check points and people with brown skin are being terrorize and Yes, pulled over then pull out of their cars because ICE needs to hit Steven Miller's quota.

Remember when Trump was going to go after the Bad Hombres? Wouldn't that call for a more strategic approach? Right now it's smash and grab as many brown people as they can.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

Can you acknowledge that your original argument, that people are being arrested for not being white, is completely inaccurate? Of course profiling occurs. That is not the same thing as people being arrested FOR being non-white.

I'm the OP about that. What the F is the differnece? I don't want to live in a country that has police check points and people with brown skin are being terrorize and Yes, pulled over then pull out of their cars because ICE needs to hit Steven Miller's quota.

Remember when Trump was going to go after the Bad Hombres? Wouldn't that call for a more strategic approach? Right now it's smash and grab as many brown people as they can.

To me, there's a massive difference between arresting people for crimes and arresting people for skin color. I think most people see it that way, and support law enforcement when they arrest criminals.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been all over the place from East to west coast. Everywhere seems depressed and dead. I keep asking everyone where the people are. Last week I was in New Orleans and there were barely any people out in the French quarter. I asked a waiter at cafe du monde what’s up (I know summers there are slow but not this slow) and he said he’s never seen it so bad. I tipped him a $20 on a $7 bill and he nearly cried. A month before I was in San Francisco and it was the same thing. Dead streets and the tourists that line up to watch the sea lions at the pier were non existent. I asked an uber driver what’s going on and he basically they said the foreign tourists didn’t come this year and everyone was hurting plus people who left during covid didn’t come back. Everyone seems depressed and hopeless. I am not pinning it squarely on Trump though. Things are not the same since Covid and this country feels like it’s never going to be the same again.

I mean.... what do you expect? The libs are out there telling foreign tourists its unsafe to come here. Of course they won't.

Wake up you twit. This isn't "the libs" making the US look bad. It's Trump and everyone who supports him.

The foreign tourists are seeing for themselves that the US is no longer a safe place to come to. Like this mom from New Zealand and her 6 year old son who were legally in the US but were snatched by ICE, sent to a detention camp in Texas and held for 3 weeks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/13/new-zealand-woman-six-year-old-son-ice-detention-us-ntwnfb

This is not about "the libs" - it's about Trump's shitty policies. When you have to deflect with "the libs" your argument has failed.

Liberals evidently can't read. She was detained by ICE when she attempted to re-enter the U.S. when her combo-card visa wasn't fully approved. Her employment visa approved for renewal but not the I-360. The employment visa does not grant you the right to remain in the U.S. The DHS was actually being gracious by allowing her to work all this time while her I-360 was pending. She either callously ignored the laws or didn't educate herself adequately and put her and her son in jeopardy. As a matter of fact, all three of her children were fully approved for their visa renewals so she really had no excuse.

The United States is no longer tolerating illegal immigration or the flagrant disregard of the law. If foreign tourist or migrants cannot abide by them, don't come here. We don't care.

Just so we are clear, you are ok with sending her to a detention center with her children over this.

You are a POS, but I think that you are ok with this.

So is your mother. And no, I am not okay with it personally, however this is the law. An immigration processing facility is where they bring immigrants who don't have the proper or fully approved status to remain in the U.S. She was sent with her son so they wouldn't be seperated (since you all went into hysterics the last time that happened).

Hysteria is a proper response to children being separated from their parents in any circumstance.

Focusing on completely securing the border, deporting as many undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes as possible, and immigration reform law that makes it easier for the economic migrants we need to come here legally are all reasonable priorities. Putting working moms and their children in detention facilities amounts to ugly theatrics and a useless manner in which to address real problems.

Small offenses compound into bigger ones.
This has become an exacerbating issue due to the first and this administration has effectively decided a stringent enforcement of the law is necessary. Your status as a do-gooder is immaterial. The onus is now on every immigrant to be sure they have the proper paperwork to remain here.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

Can you acknowledge that your original argument, that people are being arrested for not being white, is completely inaccurate? Of course profiling occurs. That is not the same thing as people being arrested FOR being non-white.

I'm the OP about that. What the F is the differnece? I don't want to live in a country that has police check points and people with brown skin are being terrorize and Yes, pulled over then pull out of their cars because ICE needs to hit Steven Miller's quota.

Remember when Trump was going to go after the Bad Hombres? Wouldn't that call for a more strategic approach? Right now it's smash and grab as many brown people as they can.

To me, there's a massive difference between arresting people for crimes and arresting people for skin color. I think most people see it that way, and support law enforcement when they arrest criminals.

They are arresting brown people en masse. They are calling them "criminals" because they have overstayed their visa, which is not a "crime."

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Anonymous wrote:The US is a bunch of smaller nations standing on each others shoulders wearing a trench coat pretending to be a single nation.

You can't have a national policy for what are essentially dozens of nations. No one ends up happy and every election is eschatological.

It will go on this way until everything breaks up into more coherent and smaller nations.

The good news is that it should only take another decade.

This is the the Republican agenda. One nation, small government. Democrats created the bloated federal agencies and power structure we have now. Trump is actually trying to give power back to them by eliminating these bureaucracies and send it back to the states so they can make their own decisions. But they want to be histrionic instead of seeing this as a logistical opportunity. Dispelling none of the rumors that they're real agenda is indoctrination rather than democracy.

MAGA doesn't want small government, they want a king. They want the federal gov to tell us how to live, who to love, when to have babies. They want women subjugated, Black people to know their place, and brown people to be gone. They want business to run unregulated, pollute our air and water and social media to keep us engaged and enraged.

Prove overwise.

This is all distortion and hyperbole. You have no idea what you're talking about. Had you embraced small government, you would have been able to have your agendas without qualms or pushback from "MAGA".

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Anonymous wrote:The US is a bunch of smaller nations standing on each others shoulders wearing a trench coat pretending to be a single nation.

You can't have a national policy for what are essentially dozens of nations. No one ends up happy and every election is eschatological.

It will go on this way until everything breaks up into more coherent and smaller nations.

The good news is that it should only take another decade.

This is the the Republican agenda. One nation, small government. Democrats created the bloated federal agencies and power structure we have now. Trump is actually trying to give power back to them by eliminating these bureaucracies and send it back to the states so they can make their own decisions. But they want to be histrionic instead of seeing this as a logistical opportunity. Dispelling none of the rumors that they're real agenda is indoctrination rather than democracy.

MAGA doesn't want small government, they want a king. They want the federal gov to tell us how to live, who to love, when to have babies. They want women subjugated, Black people to know their place, and brown people to be gone. They want business to run unregulated, pollute our air and water and social media to keep us engaged and enraged.

Prove overwise.

And I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been all over the place from East to west coast. Everywhere seems depressed and dead. I keep asking everyone where the people are. Last week I was in New Orleans and there were barely any people out in the French quarter. I asked a waiter at cafe du monde what’s up (I know summers there are slow but not this slow) and he said he’s never seen it so bad. I tipped him a $20 on a $7 bill and he nearly cried. A month before I was in San Francisco and it was the same thing. Dead streets and the tourists that line up to watch the sea lions at the pier were non existent. I asked an uber driver what’s going on and he basically they said the foreign tourists didn’t come this year and everyone was hurting plus people who left during covid didn’t come back. Everyone seems depressed and hopeless. I am not pinning it squarely on Trump though. Things are not the same since Covid and this country feels like it’s never going to be the same again.

I mean.... what do you expect? The libs are out there telling foreign tourists its unsafe to come here. Of course they won't.

Wake up you twit. This isn't "the libs" making the US look bad. It's Trump and everyone who supports him.

The foreign tourists are seeing for themselves that the US is no longer a safe place to come to. Like this mom from New Zealand and her 6 year old son who were legally in the US but were snatched by ICE, sent to a detention camp in Texas and held for 3 weeks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/13/new-zealand-woman-six-year-old-son-ice-detention-us-ntwnfb

This is not about "the libs" - it's about Trump's shitty policies. When you have to deflect with "the libs" your argument has failed.

Liberals evidently can't read. She was detained by ICE when she attempted to re-enter the U.S. when her combo-card visa wasn't fully approved. Her employment visa approved for renewal but not the I-360. The employment visa does not grant you the right to remain in the U.S. The DHS was actually being gracious by allowing her to work all this time while her I-360 was pending. She either callously ignored the laws or didn't educate herself adequately and put her and her son in jeopardy. As a matter of fact, all three of her children were fully approved for their visa renewals so she really had no excuse.

The United States is no longer tolerating illegal immigration or the flagrant disregard of the law. If foreign tourist or migrants cannot abide by them, don't come here. We don't care.

Just so we are clear, you are ok with sending her to a detention center with her children over this.

You are a POS, but I think that you are ok with this.

So is your mother. And no, I am not okay with it personally, however this is the law. An immigration processing facility is where they bring immigrants who don't have the proper or fully approved status to remain in the U.S. She was sent with her son so they wouldn't be seperated (since you all went into hysterics the last time that happened).

Hysteria is a proper response to children being separated from their parents in any circumstance.

Focusing on completely securing the border, deporting as many undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes as possible, and immigration reform law that makes it easier for the economic migrants we need to come here legally are all reasonable priorities. Putting working moms and their children in detention facilities amounts to ugly theatrics and a useless manner in which to address real problems.

Small offenses compound into bigger ones.
This has become an exacerbating issue due to the first and this administration has effectively decided a stringent enforcement of the law is necessary. Your status as a do-gooder is immaterial. The onus is now on every immigrant to be sure they have the proper paperwork to remain here.

Immigrants can't have proper paperwork because the courts are so backed up. Biden's immigration bill would have addressed this. But MAGA doesn't want people to have proper paperwork. GOP broke the system then blame the immigrants. And yes, I know Dems have done a poor job on immigration.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

Can you acknowledge that your original argument, that people are being arrested for not being white, is completely inaccurate? Of course profiling occurs. That is not the same thing as people being arrested FOR being non-white.

You're either misreading or moving the goalposts. You're acting like we said people are being arrested for merely being nonwhite. Nobody ever said that. We've consistently said they are being targeted for being nonwhite. That's not the same as being arrested. And in fact many nonwhite US citizens and people here on legal visa or greencard status have been targeted and harassed without bonafide probable cause other than the color of their skin. A much smaller subset of the people of color who've been targeted and harrassed have, however nonetheless still been arrested and detained, merely because the ICE officers didn't want to believe the data or credentials they were shown indicating they did not have cause to arrest or detain them.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

Can you acknowledge that your original argument, that people are being arrested for not being white, is completely inaccurate? Of course profiling occurs. That is not the same thing as people being arrested FOR being non-white.

I'm the OP about that. What the F is the differnece? I don't want to live in a country that has police check points and people with brown skin are being terrorize and Yes, pulled over then pull out of their cars because ICE needs to hit Steven Miller's quota.

Remember when Trump was going to go after the Bad Hombres? Wouldn't that call for a more strategic approach? Right now it's smash and grab as many brown people as they can.

Some of you just hyperlinked stories of White New Zealanders, Canadians, Germans, and Austrailians getting detained and deported. I'm not sure how you're keeping your narrative straight.

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Anonymous wrote:I spent time travelling this summer around the good old US of A. And man, was it depressing. Everyone in their own world, jobless or working too many jobs because one job doesn’t pay great. People cutting way back. A general apathy and hopelessness for the future. People now talking about AI taking jobs which is interesting because the blame used to be immigrants. The feeling that God has failed them and that we are still heading in the wrong direction. It will never be the same I guess. The reality of everything is in front of us. The blinders are off. And when I spoke with people it seemed that most people were just giving up. Anyone else traveling around and seeing or hearing any of this?

I say this with kindness. I think youre hanging around some bad influences. The world is not this bleak.

We have masked men breaking car windows and dragging people from their cars just because they have brown skin. I'm currently in Berlin and people are freaked the F out what is happening in the US. And, yes, before you start, they know they have their own brownshirts. But NOTHING compares to what is happening in DC. It's straight up fascism. If people don't see that, I don't know what to say. There is ZERO excuse for this.

That isn't actually happening though. There are ICE raids to detain illegal immigrants. Their skin color isnt a factor.

Yes it is happening. There's a ton of evidence that there is racial profiling going on with the ICE raids.

Court Orders Against Profiling: A federal judge issued a restraining order in July barring ICE from conducting immigration arrests based solely on race, ethnicity, language, or occupation. This was in response to allegations that agents were targeting brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking individuals without reasonable suspicion.

Trojan Horse Raids in L.A.: Despite the court order, ICE agents conducted raids using rented trucks to lure day laborers at Home Depot locations. The agents spoke Spanish to attract workers, then arrested 16 people, mostly street vendors and laborers. Local officials, including L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, described the operation as the “essence of racial profiling”.

Supreme Court Appeal: The Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to overturn the profiling ban, arguing that factors like speaking Spanish or working in construction can reasonably raise suspicion of undocumented status. Critics say this logic institutionalizes racial profiling.

Impact on U.S. Citizens: Reports show that even American citizens, including Native Americans and Puerto Ricans have been detained or questioned during these raids, raising further concerns about profiling based on appearance or language.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/essence-of-racial-profiling-ice-s-la-rental-truck-raid-may-have-violated-court-orders/ar-AA1KaG7T

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-home-depot-raided-twice-in-one-day-critics-claim-immigration-agents-are-flouting-a-court-order/ar-AA1KbRE4

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agents-mount-trojan-horse-immigration-raid-in-la-in-defiance-of-court-order/ar-AA1K4GWJ

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/immigration-raid-los-angeles-home-depot-trump-deportations-rcna223883

https://newrepublic.com/post/198933/ice-supreme-court-racial-profiling-trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigration-raids-citizens-profiling-accusations-native-american-rcna189203

So yes, it is happening and there's a ton of evidence proving it.

Can you acknowledge that your original argument, that people are being arrested for not being white, is completely inaccurate? Of course profiling occurs. That is not the same thing as people being arrested FOR being non-white.

I'm the OP about that. What the F is the differnece? I don't want to live in a country that has police check points and people with brown skin are being terrorize and Yes, pulled over then pull out of their cars because ICE needs to hit Steven Miller's quota.

Remember when Trump was going to go after the Bad Hombres? Wouldn't that call for a more strategic approach? Right now it's smash and grab as many brown people as they can.

To me, there's a massive difference between arresting people for crimes and arresting people for skin color. I think most people see it that way, and support law enforcement when they arrest criminals.

They are arresting brown people en masse. They are calling them "criminals" because they have overstayed their visa, which is not a "crime."

No, they're not. Overstaying your visa is a civil violation and working or living without authorization, using fraudulent documents, re-entering illegally, are all criminal offenses and illegal activity, ipso facto, a crime.

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Anonymous wrote:The US is a bunch of smaller nations standing on each others shoulders wearing a trench coat pretending to be a single nation.

You can't have a national policy for what are essentially dozens of nations. No one ends up happy and every election is eschatological.

It will go on this way until everything breaks up into more coherent and smaller nations.

The good news is that it should only take another decade.

This is the the Republican agenda. One nation, small government. Democrats created the bloated federal agencies and power structure we have now. Trump is actually trying to give power back to them by eliminating these bureaucracies and send it back to the states so they can make their own decisions. But they want to be histrionic instead of seeing this as a logistical opportunity. Dispelling none of the rumors that they're real agenda is indoctrination rather than democracy.

MAGA doesn't want small government, they want a king. They want the federal gov to tell us how to live, who to love, when to have babies. They want women subjugated, Black people to know their place, and brown people to be gone. They want business to run unregulated, pollute our air and water and social media to keep us engaged and enraged.

Prove overwise.

And I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

We're tired of you as well.