Maury Elementary feedback?

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Anonymous wrote:Maury does seem like one of the better elementary schools on the Hill but I admittedly am turned off by what seems to be an obnoxious group of parents. Is that an unfair stereotype/hasty view from the outside?

Where did you get that impression?

Different parent, inbounds for Maury and I agree. Really unfriendly group of people. I’m glad we went elsewhere.

I live in the general neighborhood (but IB for/with kids at L-T) and I cannot imagine turning down Maury as an IB family for another public option... Maybe if I was really set on immersion? Insane to turn down a quality local school because you anecdotally think some parents (your neighbors??) are unfriendly.

In general, I find my Hill neighbors really nice and friendly, especially those with kids in any of the local DCPSes. We have loads of friends at Maury via local kids' activities. The friendly vibe is part of why so many people live and stay on the Hill even when it complicates school options later on. Sorry you've had such a different experience, but I think it's pretty abnormal!

Nah this is very par for the course if you’re not white. Also I don’t need to hear how you’re “considering” eastern and you’re “committed” to Eliot. I’m not sending my kids there either.

Non-white IB families turn down Maury routinely? For where? (I am also not sending my kids to EH or Eastern, but the same considerations absolutely do not apply to Maury which has fabulous test scores and a large group of high achieving students.)

Yup, the families at Maury are lowkey very unfriendly and unwelcoming to black families. This is exactly why the number of black students continues to plummet every year. The white families make black families feel like they shouldn’t be in the school or in the neighborhood. Mind you, the neighborhood surrounding Maury was predominately black until 2012. Clock it.

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This is very helpful as a black parent. Because that sort of attitude passes on through their kids and lo and behold, your child is singled out and that is when the insecurities start to fester. Thank you.

You’re very welcome! Don’t listen to these people on this board. The majority of them have the attitudes I described in my last post. I’m a black dad and I almost ended up getting arrested after I ended up going off on two of those parents about how their child was treating my son. Luckily the responding officers were black and didn’t say anything lol. They run their mouths on forums like these but forget that real life and online are two totally different things. And these are the same people who pretend to be “liberal” and accepting, but treat black families like they don’t belong. And then when a black parent goes off and says something, the black parent is the problem. Nope, the racist entitled performative “others” are the real problem. Don’t let their “Everybody Belongs” yard signs fool you. They’re fine with diversity as long as the diversity isn’t in their neighborhood or school. I want one of them to try to prove me wrong. I’ll wait…..

I bet you looked great demonstrating your low impulse control.

I sure did. I put the racists like you in their place.

The only thing you are doing is self-indulgent sanctimonious nonsense.

Maybe you were one of the parents I went off on. It’s okay, we all get our feelings hurt at one point. Maybe next time you’ll think twice about being racist.

Please tell us more about how you “went of on” fellow parents and why?

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Anonymous wrote:The racists in this thread are proving my point about Maury being a school that is unwelcoming to black families. Racists are real bold online but I can guarantee that they would never any of the stuff they say online to a black person’s face. Keep that same energy in real life.

Can you identify what in this thread has been racist? I also think it's a big leap to think all the posters are from Maury, so I'm not sure why anything in this thread proves any point about Maury families.

I am sorry you had a bad experience at Maury, but the fact that you pointed to their reaction to the Miner proposal as "racist" does make me question your judgment in that respect. Miner is a bad school. I would not want my kids to go there. I do not blame Maury parents for objecting to a proposal that would send their kids there. That is not evidence that they are racist.

Miner is a great school. I went to an open house during the spring, and we loved Dr. Broquard. She’s a non-nonsense type of leader who demands accountability. She seems committed to making Miner into a top tier school. I adore her.

She was not Miner's principal when the Maury-Miner merger was proposed.

And to be honest, kind of irrelevant to how I felt about the proposal. Even if both schools are great, I have less than zero interest in splitting my kids between two different elementary schools.

The only reason you and others did not like the proposal is because Miner has black children. You aren’t fooling anyone and you can’t convince me or other black people that there are other reasons. I really wish that you people would say you hate black people with your whole chest instead of hiding online.

I can see why certain statements made by some people in the course of the debate raised questions, but the idea that the only reason someone could possibly oppose the paired school is because they "hate black people" is so ridiculous that I am now fully satisfied that you are trolling, so I will see myself out of the convo.

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Anonymous wrote:The racists in this thread are proving my point about Maury being a school that is unwelcoming to black families. Racists are real bold online but I can guarantee that they would never any of the stuff they say online to a black person’s face. Keep that same energy in real life.

Can you identify what in this thread has been racist? I also think it's a big leap to think all the posters are from Maury, so I'm not sure why anything in this thread proves any point about Maury families.

I am sorry you had a bad experience at Maury, but the fact that you pointed to their reaction to the Miner proposal as "racist" does make me question your judgment in that respect. Miner is a bad school. I would not want my kids to go there. I do not blame Maury parents for objecting to a proposal that would send their kids there. That is not evidence that they are racist.

Miner is a great school. I went to an open house during the spring, and we loved Dr. Broquard. She’s a non-nonsense type of leader who demands accountability. She seems committed to making Miner into a top tier school. I adore her.

She was not Miner's principal when the Maury-Miner merger was proposed.

Where did I say that she was? Yeah, that’s right, I didn’t.

You were responding to someone who said Maury parents rejected the Miner proposal because Miner was a bad school. How good the new principal (as of August 2024) is now is completely immaterial to how parents felt about the school back in March 2023 - March 2024, when the Miner proposal was under discussion as part of the boundary study.

Especially as part of the reason she was parachuted in was in response to the feedback DCPS received during the Maury-Miner discussion that no one wanted to go to a school which had something like 6 principals in 7 years, several of whom were placed on leave.

The world does not revolve around Maury parents… DCPS focused on a principal search bc the kids at Miner deserve stability and quality leadership - not just bc Maury parents brought it up.
Glad she is coming back for a second year, hopefully Miner can get some continuity they have been lacking in the past several years.

Well the DCPS Maury-Miner plan actually did implicitly believe that white parents are more powerful and thus should be distributed as a resource. and in fact I do think the white parents pointing out that Miner has been catastrophically poorly administered and neglected by DCPS had some influence on DCPS giving them a better principal. Perhaps DCPS should look at itself in the mirror and ask why it takes white parents speaking up and pointing out their neglect of Miner to get resources for Miner? whose fault is that?

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Anonymous wrote:The racists in this thread are proving my point about Maury being a school that is unwelcoming to black families. Racists are real bold online but I can guarantee that they would never any of the stuff they say online to a black person’s face. Keep that same energy in real life.

Can you identify what in this thread has been racist? I also think it's a big leap to think all the posters are from Maury, so I'm not sure why anything in this thread proves any point about Maury families.

I am sorry you had a bad experience at Maury, but the fact that you pointed to their reaction to the Miner proposal as "racist" does make me question your judgment in that respect. Miner is a bad school. I would not want my kids to go there. I do not blame Maury parents for objecting to a proposal that would send their kids there. That is not evidence that they are racist.

Miner is a great school. I went to an open house during the spring, and we loved Dr. Broquard. She’s a non-nonsense type of leader who demands accountability. She seems committed to making Miner into a top tier school. I adore her.

She was not Miner's principal when the Maury-Miner merger was proposed.

And to be honest, kind of irrelevant to how I felt about the proposal. Even if both schools are great, I have less than zero interest in splitting my kids between two different elementary schools.

The only reason you and others did not like the proposal is because Miner has black children. You aren’t fooling anyone and you can’t convince me or other black people that there are other reasons. I really wish that you people would say you hate black people with your whole chest instead of hiding online.

I am hoping at this point that you are a troll. If this is really your world view, then hopefully others now know to take all of your claims with a heap of salt.

BPD comes in all colors.

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I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

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Anonymous wrote:I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

Maury was majority black as late as 2012, so it's not "historic segregation lines" that are keeping black kids out.

The school is barely half-white—over 40% of the students identify as non-white—so it is hard to credit that the parents' main goals include only going to school with white children.

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Anonymous wrote:I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

Maury was majority black as late as 2012, so it's not "historic segregation lines" that are keeping black kids out.

The school is barely half-white—over 40% of the students identify as non-white—so it is hard to credit that the parents' main goals include only going to school with white children.

Just because there are black children there, it does not mean that the white families want black children at the school.

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Anonymous wrote:I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

This is pretty well said… There was a definite “keep the riff raff out” vibe in some of the Hill-centric communications on the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

This is pretty well said… There was a definite “keep the riff raff out” vibe in some of the Hill-centric communications on the issue.

Many of us went on to send our kids to EH and stayed at Maury through the majority black upper elem years. But sure we are totally racist.

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I mostly support the proposed maury-miner merger, because it would spread out the concentration of at-risk students at miner and also longer term increase neighborhood buy-in in the miner boundary. But that doesnt mean that the majority of the families who came out against the proposal are necessarily racists. The opposition was not remotely all that uniform either. You have some families at every school like maury who think it is important to attend a “good” public school with high test scores because thats all they know. They intentionally chose housing within the school boundary and would probably opt out of the combined school. You have some people who are simply very happy with the school as it is and hesitant about, or even scared of, change. the proposal was to combine with a school that has had all sorts of administration problems. then you had valid criticisms about the size of the proposed combined school (neither elementary school is small) and all of the various logistical issues. the dme did not have very much to support its proposal or a clear plan for how to make the combined school successful that went beyond a theory that school quality starts to suffer when the majority of the students at a school are at-risk and then a plan to turn all of the implementation details over to dcps.

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Anonymous wrote:I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

Maury was majority black as late as 2012, so it's not "historic segregation lines" that are keeping black kids out.

The school is barely half-white—over 40% of the students identify as non-white—so it is hard to credit that the parents' main goals include only going to school with white children.

Just because there are black children there, it does not mean that the white families want black children at the school.

You have to be joking. This literally makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

The only racist people are the ones who insist that a majority-black school (Miner) can't be a "good" school without white kids in it. Which is you.

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Um....

If a student moves to Maury after the school year starts, will they be able to participate in aftercare?

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Anonymous wrote:I always find it strange that people in the Maury community are shocked and aghast that anyone would ever think that their protest against joining school districts with an adjacent district whose school is 4 blocks away, whose district boundaries are drawn along the historic segregation line (D St) and in which essentially all of the (majority-black) public housing and Section 8 housing in the two districts is located on the Miner side of the line was even a little bit racist. Nope - surely it is obvious that all reasons for protesting this combination were strictly non-racist.

This is pretty well said… There was a definite “keep the riff raff out” vibe in some of the Hill-centric communications on the issue.

Even if true, there's no reason to assume the "riff raff" is race-based rather than SES-based. Maybe equally distasteful, but a different thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Um....

If a student moves to Maury after the school year starts, will they be able to participate in aftercare?

Yes, if there is space. Normally there isn't any so they're more than likely waitlisted.