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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you're propagandizing yourself by focusing only on right wing violence. Try to focus on facts.

Both right wing and left wing criminals have committed acts of violence in recent times and throughout American history. Both left wing and right wing politicians and pundits have advocated violence openly and with dog whistles.

The current LA riots are a good example. Despite the "peaceful protest" narrative, we can see our own eyes people being extremely violent and committing arson. Before you waste time defending left wing violence as moral or somehow less violent because you agree with the actors' politics, understand what you are tacitly supporting. People whose position on violence is highly flexible due to partisanship stand for the idea that people get to be violent if they believe strongly in their cause or believe the other side deserves it. The problem is that EVERY violent movement in history and every side in a war, civil or otherwise, has believed the other side deserving and their cause just.

If you want to minimize the likelihood of running terrified while your former neighbors and countrymen hunt you down, stand vocally and unequivocally with zero exceptions for the conviction that violence is a completely unacceptable way to handle disagreements of any sort. Every time people pretend not to see violence when their chosen side is perpetrating it, they legitimize it as a fair response to themselves.

Equating people fighting for civil rights with a coup is really weak. They are not the same.

PP here. Has it not occurred to you that the people burning cars and buildings, throwing bricks and concrete chunks at police, and passing out improvised weapons might actually not give a single damn about civil rights? Do you really not realize that there are people who will take advantage of chaos to cause mayhem for the fun of it?

If you're on this board, odds are you're smart enough to have considered that bad actors are using the protests to cause mayhem. You just don't care because you're enjoying their violence towards ICE, police, and right wing people by proxy. That makes you a dangerous ideologue and you don't get to hide behind "fighting for civil rights" -- especially not when the nutjobs you're giving cover to are turning people against the civil rights causes that sincere protesters care about. People like you teem like roaches among Democrats. The leftwing equivalent of right wing nutjobs, except even more sanctimonious. It's a big problem.

anarchists are not democrats...they are anarchists, if that is what you are aiming for.

Either way, no one supports the violence, but be honest, it started with this version of ICE. These things didn't happen under Obama or Biden. Just Trump.

Then Democrats need to ditch the gaslighting "peaceful protest" BS and say, hey, these crazies aren't part of us and we denounce them. That's not what Democrats are doing though. When bad people use you for cover and you let them, you go down with them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have seen the Left engage in lots of killing throughout history, Mao, Stalin, Che, etc.

MAGA at some point will fight in kind.

Did you personally witness any of this “killing” that was supposedly done by “the left”?

Have you personally known anyone - even ONE person - who was affected in any way whatsoever, let alone killed, by Mao or Stalin or Che? Of course you don’t. Because all that stuff is a pack of lies, written during the Cold War, to bend the malleable minds of young fools like yourself. And you parrot it back as it was gospel.


You should be ashamed of your ignorance on display. Everyone knows how stupid you are.

DP A man I know, a neighbor up the road, is from Romania. His father, in the 1950s, a born-again, bible-believing Christian, was arrested by the communist government for recording sermons and bible readings on a cassette tape to distribute to other Christians.

He was part of an underground church because the communists —Leftists, had, like Hitler did, placed government stooges in the church leadership positions.

He was sent to a work camp to build a canal. He entered the camp weighing 180 lbs., he came out weighing about half that.

The daughter lost her place at the university, the mother was fired, as was the son for refusing to deny Christ.

Christians in America managed to get him and his family out before they starved to death.

This is what happens when Leftists get in charge of things. We saw a peek of it with Christians in England who were fired for refusing to call a man a woman and using ungrammatical pronouns to address these people.

There are other examples of the “tolerant” Left of trying to get people fired because they oppose Leftist BS.

I hope Trump stomps all of these Leftists and their garbage agenda right into the ground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, those rocks won't throw themselves at government vehicles, amirite? Why waste time posting stuff like this? You've got cars to burn, people to beat, etc.

When does this come to the DMV ? We got illegals, plenty of them. I want to see the protests on Rockville Pike. (I work at home, so won’t bother me.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have seen the Left engage in lots of killing throughout history, Mao, Stalin, Che, etc.

MAGA at some point will fight in kind.

Did you personally witness any of this “killing” that was supposedly done by “the left”?

Have you personally known anyone - even ONE person - who was affected in any way whatsoever, let alone killed, by Mao or Stalin or Che? Of course you don’t. Because all that stuff is a pack of lies, written during the Cold War, to bend the malleable minds of young fools like yourself. And you parrot it back as it was gospel.


You should be ashamed of your ignorance on display. Everyone knows how stupid you are.

DP A man I know, a neighbor up the road, is from Romania. His father, in the 1950s, a born-again, bible-believing Christian, was arrested by the communist government for recording sermons and bible readings on a cassette tape to distribute to other Christians.

He was part of an underground church because the communists —Leftists, had, like Hitler did, placed government stooges in the church leadership positions.

He was sent to a work camp to build a canal. He entered the camp weighing 180 lbs., he came out weighing about half that.

The daughter lost her place at the university, the mother was fired, as was the son for refusing to deny Christ.

Christians in America managed to get him and his family out before they starved to death.

This is what happens when Leftists get in charge of things. We saw a peek of it with Christians in England who were fired for refusing to call a man a woman and using ungrammatical pronouns to address these people.

There are other examples of the “tolerant” Left of trying to get people fired because they oppose Leftist BS.

I hope Trump stomps all of these Leftists and their garbage agenda right into the ground.

See OP the answer to your question. Yes they will kill you. They are totally indoctrinated and are just waiting for a chance. Just like the Nazis, Maoist, Stalinist, etc. The trumpist are ready and willing to kill you and your family.

[Anonymous]

The trumpist are ready and willing to kill you and your family

One tactic of the Left is to accuse their enemies, in this case the capitalist Trump, of what the Left plans to do once enough political power is attained.

The Leftists in America, whose power base is in the Democratic party, have clearly stated the intention to get guns away from American citizens on the false pretext (insert whiny, snobby voice)“to protect the children.”

A disarmed citizenry is easier to steamroll than an armed one.

[Anonymous]

The Speaker of the US House just called for Newsom to be tarred and feathered.

Trump has apparently considered pardoning those who conspired to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

Republicans in Washington are doing a dangerous amount of flame fanning. Maybe that’s the plan…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone seem to think there would only be killing by MAGAs? I know plenty of Progressives who would be willing to do some killing. They’re not going to start the war, but once it’s started, they’re all-in.

These people are serious, too. They know Carlos hand to hand fighting disciplines and martial arts, they are experts with knives and edged weapons, they can improvise booby traps. They’d be able to take out MAGAs like they were squishing bugs.

Don't kid yourself. These "progressives" who love to use political issues as an excuse to mix it up with the police and throw Molotov cocktails could easily start a war. Democrats are putting the whole country at risk justifying such behavior.

progressives are usually kumbaya type people. The people who throw molotov cocktails are anarchists and use any excuse to be violent.

Yes, and Democrats have been giving them political and media cover for a long time because SO FAR, their violence is directed at the Democrats' enemies. Americans refuse to learn from the countless examples in history of how easy it is to lose control of violent groups.

No. Stop lying. The RWNJs focus on the anarchists and pretend they are Dems. They exaggerate and fabricate to incite hatred and violence. FFS I am so sick of this nonsense from the right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The trumpist are ready and willing to kill you and your family

One tactic of the Left is to accuse their enemies, in this case the capitalist Trump, of what the Left plans to do once enough political power is attained.

The Leftists in America, whose power base is in the Democratic party, have clearly stated the intention to get guns away from American citizens on the false pretext (insert whiny, snobby voice)“to protect the children.”

A disarmed citizenry is easier to steamroll than an armed one.

More projection from the RWNJs. This is all you people do. Every accusation is a confession and we are not falling for your BS. never did. Never will. F off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have seen the Left engage in lots of killing throughout history, Mao, Stalin, Che, etc.

MAGA at some point will fight in kind.

Did you personally witness any of this “killing” that was supposedly done by “the left”?

Have you personally known anyone - even ONE person - who was affected in any way whatsoever, let alone killed, by Mao or Stalin or Che? Of course you don’t. Because all that stuff is a pack of lies, written during the Cold War, to bend the malleable minds of young fools like yourself. And you parrot it back as it was gospel.


You should be ashamed of your ignorance on display. Everyone knows how stupid you are.

DP A man I know, a neighbor up the road, is from Romania. His father, in the 1950s, a born-again, bible-believing Christian, was arrested by the communist government for recording sermons and bible readings on a cassette tape to distribute to other Christians.

He was part of an underground church because the communists —Leftists, had, like Hitler did, placed government stooges in the church leadership positions.

He was sent to a work camp to build a canal. He entered the camp weighing 180 lbs., he came out weighing about half that.

The daughter lost her place at the university, the mother was fired, as was the son for refusing to deny Christ.

Christians in America managed to get him and his family out before they starved to death.

This is what happens when Leftists get in charge of things. We saw a peek of it with Christians in England who were fired for refusing to call a man a woman and using ungrammatical pronouns to address these people.

There are other examples of the “tolerant” Left of trying to get people fired because they oppose Leftist BS.

I hope Trump stomps all of these Leftists and their garbage agenda right into the ground.

You are delusional. These Leftists you describe are not equivalent to the Democrats of America. Please seek therapy for your trauma and don't go raging against innocent Americans. FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a small percentage of both conservatives and progressives that would happily get the clipboards out and start putting people on trains to send them to reeducation camps.

Progressives and conservatives are dangerous in different ways, but they both end up in the same place. They are both very totalitarian in their sensibilities. And they are dangerous - both conservatives and progressives. The party that can rid themselves of their extremists going forward is the party that wins.

But don't think for a minute that Democrats have the high ground here. Progressive extremism is why Democrats are losing everywhere.

Disagree. Both parties are reeling from terrible leadership in recent years with Trump and Biden stinking everything up since 2017 but the Dems now have a clean slate and hopefully the GOP will be able to rid itself of the MAGA stench by 2032. Better days ahead for both and the Dems have a head start on the needed reformation now that Biden is out of the picture.

The American people will come back to their senses when legitimate leadership reemerges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you're propagandizing yourself by focusing only on right wing violence. Try to focus on facts.

Both right wing and left wing criminals have committed acts of violence in recent times and throughout American history. Both left wing and right wing politicians and pundits have advocated violence openly and with dog whistles.

The current LA riots are a good example. Despite the "peaceful protest" narrative, we can see our own eyes people being extremely violent and committing arson. Before you waste time defending left wing violence as moral or somehow less violent because you agree with the actors' politics, understand what you are tacitly supporting. People whose position on violence is highly flexible due to partisanship stand for the idea that people get to be violent if they believe strongly in their cause or believe the other side deserves it. The problem is that EVERY violent movement in history and every side in a war, civil or otherwise, has believed the other side deserving and their cause just.

If you want to minimize the likelihood of running terrified while your former neighbors and countrymen hunt you down, stand vocally and unequivocally with zero exceptions for the conviction that violence is a completely unacceptable way to handle disagreements of any sort. Every time people pretend not to see violence when their chosen side is perpetrating it, they legitimize it as a fair response to themselves.

Equating people fighting for civil rights with a coup is really weak. They are not the same.

PP here. Has it not occurred to you that the people burning cars and buildings, throwing bricks and concrete chunks at police, and passing out improvised weapons might actually not give a single damn about civil rights? Do you really not realize that there are people who will take advantage of chaos to cause mayhem for the fun of it?

If you're on this board, odds are you're smart enough to have considered that bad actors are using the protests to cause mayhem. You just don't care because you're enjoying their violence towards ICE, police, and right wing people by proxy. That makes you a dangerous ideologue and you don't get to hide behind "fighting for civil rights" -- especially not when the nutjobs you're giving cover to are turning people against the civil rights causes that sincere protesters care about. People like you teem like roaches among Democrats. The leftwing equivalent of right wing nutjobs, except even more sanctimonious. It's a big problem.

anarchists are not democrats...they are anarchists, if that is what you are aiming for.

Either way, no one supports the violence, but be honest, it started with this version of ICE. These things didn't happen under Obama or Biden. Just Trump.

Then Democrats need to ditch the gaslighting "peaceful protest" BS and say, hey, these crazies aren't part of us and we denounce them. That's not what Democrats are doing though. When bad people use you for cover and you let them, you go down with them.

We are saying that. You are responding to exactly that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you're propagandizing yourself by focusing only on right wing violence. Try to focus on facts.

Both right wing and left wing criminals have committed acts of violence in recent times and throughout American history. Both left wing and right wing politicians and pundits have advocated violence openly and with dog whistles.

The current LA riots are a good example. Despite the "peaceful protest" narrative, we can see our own eyes people being extremely violent and committing arson. Before you waste time defending left wing violence as moral or somehow less violent because you agree with the actors' politics, understand what you are tacitly supporting. People whose position on violence is highly flexible due to partisanship stand for the idea that people get to be violent if they believe strongly in their cause or believe the other side deserves it. The problem is that EVERY violent movement in history and every side in a war, civil or otherwise, has believed the other side deserving and their cause just.

If you want to minimize the likelihood of running terrified while your former neighbors and countrymen hunt you down, stand vocally and unequivocally with zero exceptions for the conviction that violence is a completely unacceptable way to handle disagreements of any sort. Every time people pretend not to see violence when their chosen side is perpetrating it, they legitimize it as a fair response to themselves.

Equating people fighting for civil rights with a coup is really weak. They are not the same.

PP here. Has it not occurred to you that the people burning cars and buildings, throwing bricks and concrete chunks at police, and passing out improvised weapons might actually not give a single damn about civil rights? Do you really not realize that there are people who will take advantage of chaos to cause mayhem for the fun of it?

If you're on this board, odds are you're smart enough to have considered that bad actors are using the protests to cause mayhem. You just don't care because you're enjoying their violence towards ICE, police, and right wing people by proxy. That makes you a dangerous ideologue and you don't get to hide behind "fighting for civil rights" -- especially not when the nutjobs you're giving cover to are turning people against the civil rights causes that sincere protesters care about. People like you teem like roaches among Democrats. The leftwing equivalent of right wing nutjobs, except even more sanctimonious. It's a big problem.

anarchists are not democrats...they are anarchists, if that is what you are aiming for.

Either way, no one supports the violence, but be honest, it started with this version of ICE. These things didn't happen under Obama or Biden. Just Trump.

Then Democrats need to ditch the gaslighting "peaceful protest" BS and say, hey, these crazies aren't part of us and we denounce them. That's not what Democrats are doing though. When bad people use you for cover and you let them, you go down with them.

We are saying that. You are responding to exactly that.

Agree. Burning cars and looting isn't a "Democrat approved" thing. It's what stupid young people given too long of a leash do. I have heard zero Dems or Republicans call what's going in LA a "peaceful protest".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a small percentage of both conservatives and progressives that would happily get the clipboards out and start putting people on trains to send them to reeducation camps.

Progressives and conservatives are dangerous in different ways, but they both end up in the same place. They are both very totalitarian in their sensibilities. And they are dangerous - both conservatives and progressives. The party that can rid themselves of their extremists going forward is the party that wins.

But don't think for a minute that Democrats have the high ground here. Progressive extremism is why Democrats are losing everywhere.

Disagree. Both parties are reeling from terrible leadership in recent years with Trump and Biden stinking everything up since 2017 but the Dems now have a clean slate and hopefully the GOP will be able to rid itself of the MAGA stench by 2032. Better days ahead for both and the Dems have a head start on the needed reformation now that Biden is out of the picture.

The American people will come back to their senses when legitimate leadership reemerges.

Since the Dems “have a head start”, who is the legitimate leadership there ? Is it back to Nancy and Chuck ?

Hard to see any leadership anywhere in the next cycle from either party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a small percentage of both conservatives and progressives that would happily get the clipboards out and start putting people on trains to send them to reeducation camps.

Progressives and conservatives are dangerous in different ways, but they both end up in the same place. They are both very totalitarian in their sensibilities. And they are dangerous - both conservatives and progressives. The party that can rid themselves of their extremists going forward is the party that wins.

But don't think for a minute that Democrats have the high ground here. Progressive extremism is why Democrats are losing everywhere.

Disagree. Both parties are reeling from terrible leadership in recent years with Trump and Biden stinking everything up since 2017 but the Dems now have a clean slate and hopefully the GOP will be able to rid itself of the MAGA stench by 2032. Better days ahead for both and the Dems have a head start on the needed reformation now that Biden is out of the picture.

The American people will come back to their senses when legitimate leadership reemerges.

Since the Dems “have a head start”, who is the legitimate leadership there ? Is it back to Nancy and Chuck ?

Hard to see any leadership anywhere in the next cycle from either party.

You would have had a similar outlook in 1989 and 2005 before Clinton and Obama emerged 3 years later and became successful two term presidents.

Give it a chance to happen organically. We certainly can do no worse. The Dems have a head start because Biden is gone and Trump ain't gone yet. Simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a small percentage of both conservatives and progressives that would happily get the clipboards out and start putting people on trains to send them to reeducation camps.

Progressives and conservatives are dangerous in different ways, but they both end up in the same place. They are both very totalitarian in their sensibilities. And they are dangerous - both conservatives and progressives. The party that can rid themselves of their extremists going forward is the party that wins.

But don't think for a minute that Democrats have the high ground here. Progressive extremism is why Democrats are losing everywhere.

Disagree. Both parties are reeling from terrible leadership in recent years with Trump and Biden stinking everything up since 2017 but the Dems now have a clean slate and hopefully the GOP will be able to rid itself of the MAGA stench by 2032. Better days ahead for both and the Dems have a head start on the needed reformation now that Biden is out of the picture.

The American people will come back to their senses when legitimate leadership reemerges.

Since the Dems “have a head start”, who is the legitimate leadership there ? Is it back to Nancy and Chuck ?

Hard to see any leadership anywhere in the next cycle from either party.

You would have had a similar outlook in 1989 and 2005 before Clinton and Obama emerged 3 years later and became successful two term presidents.

Give it a chance to happen organically. We certainly can do no worse. The Dems have a head start because Biden is gone and Trump ain't gone yet. Simple as that.

Well, AOC is the only person I see with any name recognition and leadership potential, outside the old guard. The current illegal crisis reflects badly on Kamala, since she was supposed to have been the boarder Czar.