Red vs blue

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.

Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.

Literally 100% of all the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGAs pretending to be protesters.

This is common knowledge. Even my kids know this.

from Grok:

No, the claim that 100% of the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGA supporters pretending to be protesters is not supported by evidence. The 2020 protests, particularly following George Floyd’s death, involved a complex mix of actors and motives. While there were reports of opportunistic actors, including some far-right groups, exploiting protests for their own ends, credible evidence does not indicate that all violence was orchestrated by undercover MAGA supporters.

Data from the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) shows over 10,600 protest events in the U.S. from May to August 2020, with 93% being peaceful. Violence, when it occurred, was attributed to a range of factors: clashes between protesters and police, looting by unaffiliated groups, and sporadic actions by both left-wing and right-wing extremists. Specific incidents, like those in Minneapolis or Portland, involved documented cases of vandalism and arson by diverse groups, but no comprehensive evidence points to MAGA supporters as the sole perpetrators. For example, arrests in Minneapolis included local residents and some out-of-state individuals, but no clear pattern of "undercover MAGA" orchestration emerged from law enforcement reports.

The claim also stems from online narratives, particularly on X, where some users speculated about "false flag" operations. However, these lack substantiation from primary sources like court records or official investigations. Conversely, groups like Antifa and unaffiliated opportunists were also linked to specific violent acts, though not exclusively. The complexity of 2020’s unrest defies a single explanation.

WTH is “Grok”? Sounds made-up. Just like the word salad it spews out pretending to be “evidence “. What does it cite? “ACLED”? Never heard of that either. Also sounds fake AF and made up.


You know the only citation I need? My own two eyes. I was there. June 1 2020, at BLM Plaza. I SAW the MAGAs shooting bombs at police. I SAW the MAGAs lighting buildings on fire. I SAW the MAGAs breaking into stores at city center and looting. They were wearing masks, and dressed like other protesters to try and fit in with the crowd. But they’re easy to spot if you know what to look for.


I have actual firsthand experience with what I saw. You have “Grok”.

I think we can put this to rest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I do. I don't think it's most, but enough MAGA people seem itching for a fight that I've gone out and gotten a gun and learned to shoot it. I'm not interested in being a sitting duck should the time come because I stupidly took the stance of "it could never happen here." No, it absolutely could happen here, just as it has happened elsewhere throughout history.

What did you get, if you are willing to share? I’ve just started browsing online.

My husband is a super liberal democrat but he too is afraid to be in this country where everyone carries a gun except for him. He went out and got a shot gun and two rifles. My brother in law has an AR-15, a shot gun and multiple hand guns.

It's one thing to buy a gun it's another to actually know how to use it and keep skills up to date.

Plus, you gotta get the ammo if you are going to true prepper, need a couple thousand rounds. And you need food, freeze dried, a couple months. And fuel for your whole house generator, you really want in-ground propane.

It’s a a lot work to be a true prepper. Better get started, the LA riots will be here soon b/c they have never rioted before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.

Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.

Literally 100% of all the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGAs pretending to be protesters.

This is common knowledge. Even my kids know this.

link? reputable sources for your claims?

DP...here are a few

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-17/far-right-boogaloo-boys-linked-to-killing-of-california-lawmen-other-violence

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.

Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.

Literally 100% of all the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGAs pretending to be protesters.

This is common knowledge. Even my kids know this.

from Grok:

No, the claim that 100% of the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGA supporters pretending to be protesters is not supported by evidence. The 2020 protests, particularly following George Floyd’s death, involved a complex mix of actors and motives. While there were reports of opportunistic actors, including some far-right groups, exploiting protests for their own ends, credible evidence does not indicate that all violence was orchestrated by undercover MAGA supporters.

Data from the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) shows over 10,600 protest events in the U.S. from May to August 2020, with 93% being peaceful. Violence, when it occurred, was attributed to a range of factors: clashes between protesters and police, looting by unaffiliated groups, and sporadic actions by both left-wing and right-wing extremists. Specific incidents, like those in Minneapolis or Portland, involved documented cases of vandalism and arson by diverse groups, but no comprehensive evidence points to MAGA supporters as the sole perpetrators. For example, arrests in Minneapolis included local residents and some out-of-state individuals, but no clear pattern of "undercover MAGA" orchestration emerged from law enforcement reports.

The claim also stems from online narratives, particularly on X, where some users speculated about "false flag" operations. However, these lack substantiation from primary sources like court records or official investigations. Conversely, groups like Antifa and unaffiliated opportunists were also linked to specific violent acts, though not exclusively. The complexity of 2020’s unrest defies a single explanation.

WTH is “Grok”? Sounds made-up. Just like the word salad it spews out pretending to be “evidence “. What does it cite? “ACLED”? Never heard of that either. Also sounds fake AF and made up.


You know the only citation I need? My own two eyes. I was there. June 1 2020, at BLM Plaza. I SAW the MAGAs shooting bombs at police. I SAW the MAGAs lighting buildings on fire. I SAW the MAGAs breaking into stores at city center and looting. They were wearing masks, and dressed like other protesters to try and fit in with the crowd. But they’re easy to spot if you know what to look for.


I have actual firsthand experience with what I saw. You have “Grok”.

I think we can put this to rest.

NP. Yeah, well, you weren’t the only one there and guess what? I saw plenty of violent leftists. The attempt by the left to pretend they don’t have their own violent MAGAs is so disgraceful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.

Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.

Literally 100% of all the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGAs pretending to be protesters.

This is common knowledge. Even my kids know this.

from Grok:

No, the claim that 100% of the violence and destruction in 2020 was caused by undercover MAGA supporters pretending to be protesters is not supported by evidence. The 2020 protests, particularly following George Floyd’s death, involved a complex mix of actors and motives. While there were reports of opportunistic actors, including some far-right groups, exploiting protests for their own ends, credible evidence does not indicate that all violence was orchestrated by undercover MAGA supporters.

Data from the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) shows over 10,600 protest events in the U.S. from May to August 2020, with 93% being peaceful. Violence, when it occurred, was attributed to a range of factors: clashes between protesters and police, looting by unaffiliated groups, and sporadic actions by both left-wing and right-wing extremists. Specific incidents, like those in Minneapolis or Portland, involved documented cases of vandalism and arson by diverse groups, but no comprehensive evidence points to MAGA supporters as the sole perpetrators. For example, arrests in Minneapolis included local residents and some out-of-state individuals, but no clear pattern of "undercover MAGA" orchestration emerged from law enforcement reports.

The claim also stems from online narratives, particularly on X, where some users speculated about "false flag" operations. However, these lack substantiation from primary sources like court records or official investigations. Conversely, groups like Antifa and unaffiliated opportunists were also linked to specific violent acts, though not exclusively. The complexity of 2020’s unrest defies a single explanation.

WTH is “Grok”? Sounds made-up. Just like the word salad it spews out pretending to be “evidence “. What does it cite? “ACLED”? Never heard of that either. Also sounds fake AF and made up.


You know the only citation I need? My own two eyes. I was there. June 1 2020, at BLM Plaza. I SAW the MAGAs shooting bombs at police. I SAW the MAGAs lighting buildings on fire. I SAW the MAGAs breaking into stores at city center and looting. They were wearing masks, and dressed like other protesters to try and fit in with the crowd. But they’re easy to spot if you know what to look for.


I have actual firsthand experience with what I saw. You have “Grok”.

I think we can put this to rest.

You need professional guidance, in an outpatient setting.

[Anonymous]

We have seen the Left engage in lots of killing throughout history, Mao, Stalin, Che, etc.

MAGA at some point will fight in kind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have seen the Left engage in lots of killing throughout history, Mao, Stalin, Che, etc.

MAGA at some point will fight in kind.

Thanks for proving that this is not a hysteria thread.

[Anonymous]

I literally just heard Trump on the evening news state, while addressing troops, that Newsom and Bass paid agitators to riot. He is one of the major sources of disinformation in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have seen the Left engage in lots of killing throughout history, Mao, Stalin, Che, etc.

MAGA at some point will fight in kind.

Do you know who admires Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Putin and Orban?

Trump.

If you are suggesting MAGA will fight in kind, they are siding with the one who is siding with the authoritarians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have seen the Left engage in lots of killing throughout history, Mao, Stalin, Che, etc.

MAGA at some point will fight in kind.

Did you personally witness any of this “killing” that was supposedly done by “the left”?

Have you personally known anyone - even ONE person - who was affected in any way whatsoever, let alone killed, by Mao or Stalin or Che? Of course you don’t. Because all that stuff is a pack of lies, written during the Cold War, to bend the malleable minds of young fools like yourself. And you parrot it back as it was gospel.


You should be ashamed of your ignorance on display. Everyone knows how stupid you are.

[Anonymous]

Have not been able to verify this, but have heard/read that ICE is using contractors and (separately) that Jan 6 defendants are among them.
The amount of tattoos on some of these people is astounding given that we know that tattoos mean gang affiliation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you're propagandizing yourself by focusing only on right wing violence. Try to focus on facts.

Both right wing and left wing criminals have committed acts of violence in recent times and throughout American history. Both left wing and right wing politicians and pundits have advocated violence openly and with dog whistles.

The current LA riots are a good example. Despite the "peaceful protest" narrative, we can see our own eyes people being extremely violent and committing arson. Before you waste time defending left wing violence as moral or somehow less violent because you agree with the actors' politics, understand what you are tacitly supporting. People whose position on violence is highly flexible due to partisanship stand for the idea that people get to be violent if they believe strongly in their cause or believe the other side deserves it. The problem is that EVERY violent movement in history and every side in a war, civil or otherwise, has believed the other side deserving and their cause just.

If you want to minimize the likelihood of running terrified while your former neighbors and countrymen hunt you down, stand vocally and unequivocally with zero exceptions for the conviction that violence is a completely unacceptable way to handle disagreements of any sort. Every time people pretend not to see violence when their chosen side is perpetrating it, they legitimize it as a fair response to themselves.

Equating people fighting for civil rights with a coup is really weak. They are not the same.

PP here. Has it not occurred to you that the people burning cars and buildings, throwing bricks and concrete chunks at police, and passing out improvised weapons might actually not give a single damn about civil rights? Do you really not realize that there are people who will take advantage of chaos to cause mayhem for the fun of it?

If you're on this board, odds are you're smart enough to have considered that bad actors are using the protests to cause mayhem. You just don't care because you're enjoying their violence towards ICE, police, and right wing people by proxy. That makes you a dangerous ideologue and you don't get to hide behind "fighting for civil rights" -- especially not when the nutjobs you're giving cover to are turning people against the civil rights causes that sincere protesters care about. People like you teem like roaches among Democrats. The leftwing equivalent of right wing nutjobs, except even more sanctimonious. It's a big problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you're propagandizing yourself by focusing only on right wing violence. Try to focus on facts.

Both right wing and left wing criminals have committed acts of violence in recent times and throughout American history. Both left wing and right wing politicians and pundits have advocated violence openly and with dog whistles.

The current LA riots are a good example. Despite the "peaceful protest" narrative, we can see our own eyes people being extremely violent and committing arson. Before you waste time defending left wing violence as moral or somehow less violent because you agree with the actors' politics, understand what you are tacitly supporting. People whose position on violence is highly flexible due to partisanship stand for the idea that people get to be violent if they believe strongly in their cause or believe the other side deserves it. The problem is that EVERY violent movement in history and every side in a war, civil or otherwise, has believed the other side deserving and their cause just.

If you want to minimize the likelihood of running terrified while your former neighbors and countrymen hunt you down, stand vocally and unequivocally with zero exceptions for the conviction that violence is a completely unacceptable way to handle disagreements of any sort. Every time people pretend not to see violence when their chosen side is perpetrating it, they legitimize it as a fair response to themselves.

Equating people fighting for civil rights with a coup is really weak. They are not the same.

PP here. Has it not occurred to you that the people burning cars and buildings, throwing bricks and concrete chunks at police, and passing out improvised weapons might actually not give a single damn about civil rights? Do you really not realize that there are people who will take advantage of chaos to cause mayhem for the fun of it?

If you're on this board, odds are you're smart enough to have considered that bad actors are using the protests to cause mayhem. You just don't care because you're enjoying their violence towards ICE, police, and right wing people by proxy. That makes you a dangerous ideologue and you don't get to hide behind "fighting for civil rights" -- especially not when the nutjobs you're giving cover to are turning people against the civil rights causes that sincere protesters care about. People like you teem like roaches among Democrats. The leftwing equivalent of right wing nutjobs, except even more sanctimonious. It's a big problem.

anarchists are not democrats...they are anarchists, if that is what you are aiming for.

Either way, no one supports the violence, but be honest, it started with this version of ICE. These things didn't happen under Obama or Biden. Just Trump.

[Anonymous]

Guys, those rocks won't throw themselves at government vehicles, amirite? Why waste time posting stuff like this? You've got cars to burn, people to beat, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have not been able to verify this, but have heard/read that ICE is using contractors and (separately) that Jan 6 defendants are among them.
The amount of tattoos on some of these people is astounding given that we know that tattoos mean gang affiliation.

Tattoos, are you serious ? Do you ever look at the chicks on Reddit, that are showing their “wares” on the nudie threads ? All of them have Tats, some all over. Are they J6 b/c of this ?