No human being is illegal

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This statement is stupid and most Americans don’t agree that no human is illegal. The progressives really need to shut up on this one if they want Dems to have any chance of winning.


There's a lot of things that progressives need to STFU on. But the stupid word games are top of the list.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s just semantics. If you want us to say no human is illegal, that’s fine. But humans can be illegal immigrants, right? Humans can do illegal things, right?

If a human enters the US illegally, that’s a criminal action. Would you prefer we can them “criminals”. That would be accurate, no?


Here is the problem and I sincerely think you don’t know this.

It’s not “criminal” to enter the US illegally or to overstay your visa, just like it’s not criminal to do a 50 in a 35.


'It’s not “criminal” to enter the US illegally' just illegal.

By the way, your point is no longer accurate. All non-citizens in the US who do not have green cards are required to register with the government, as of a week ago.
All these people are now in criminal violation.


The situation with undocumented migrants currently on US soil is a snapshot in time. Most of these folks will remain in the US and will eventually receive legal status. Many others will be deported over the next year or two. The conversation to be had is in regard to what happens next with immigration and asylum protocols. Are we going to continue to go through these let 'em all in, kick 'em all out cycle of madness or will Congress step up to the plate and deliver for the American people?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s just semantics. If you want us to say no human is illegal, that’s fine. But humans can be illegal immigrants, right? Humans can do illegal things, right?

If a human enters the US illegally, that’s a criminal action. Would you prefer we can them “criminals”. That would be accurate, no?


Here is the problem and I sincerely think you don’t know this.

It’s not “criminal” to enter the US illegally or to overstay your visa, just like it’s not criminal to do a 50 in a 35.


Exactly. The PPs that keep using the word "illegal" seem to think it means "criminal" when it comes to immigration status. In fact, it's a civil matter, not a criminal one. Here are the facts:

*Entering the U.S. without inspection (e.g., crossing the border without a visa or going through a port of entry) is a violation of immigration law—but it’s not a criminal offense in most cases. It’s a civil violation, similar to overstaying a visa.

*Overstaying a visa (which is how a large number of undocumented immigrants become undocumented) is also a civil infraction, not a criminal one.
So, while being in the country without proper documentation is a violation of immigration law, it’s not the same as committing a crime like theft or assault. And importantly, seeking asylum—even without a visa—is legal under both U.S. and international law.

In short:
👉 Being in the U.S. without a valid visa is a legal issue, but it’s not necessarily a criminal one.
👉 The term “illegal” is not a legal classification and is discouraged by many legal and human rights organizations.


How does the legal system feel about calling them immigrants, I pretty sure that is a regulated term as well. Is it illegal to claim to be an immigrant when you aren't one? Say falsifying Social Security numbers and what not.

I like my definition of illegal immigrant. A person who fraudulently obtains immigrant status. EG green card fraud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s just semantics. If you want us to say no human is illegal, that’s fine. But humans can be illegal immigrants, right? Humans can do illegal things, right?

If a human enters the US illegally, that’s a criminal action. Would you prefer we can them “criminals”. That would be accurate, no?
Stop using logic and common sense. You are supposed to only feel about the issue. Do not use your mind so that you can be triggered to protest against our great nation enforcing its laws.


"Great nation"
You seemed to have missed the bus

No one wants your pathetic feelings
There are clear historical reasons not to refer to other human beings in a inhumane way.

Trump regime knows what they are doing


How would you describe a person who entered the country illegally and has no intention of leaving unless forced to do so?
Anonymous
“No human being is illegal” she whispered to herself, from the comfort of a $2 million new build in the Walter Johnson cluster.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
In short:
👉 Being in the U.S. without a valid visa is a legal issue, but it’s not necessarily a criminal one.
👉 The term “illegal” is not a legal classification and is discouraged by many legal and human rights organizations.


Illegal alien is a specific term in federal law.
It is definitely a criminal violation, because you must register with the US government if you are here illegally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
In short:
👉 Being in the U.S. without a valid visa is a legal issue, but it’s not necessarily a criminal one.
👉 The term “illegal” is not a legal classification and is discouraged by many legal and human rights organizations.


Illegal alien is a specific term in federal law.
It is definitely a criminal violation, because you must register with the US government if you are here illegally.


The term appears--yet scarcely--in federal law. Best we can tell, though, no law defines the term as referring to all individuals living in the U.S. without legal authorization. Where the term does appear, it’s undefined or part of an introductory title or limited to apply to certain individuals convicted of felonies.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/may/09/steve-mccraw/illegal-alien-legal-term-federal-law/
Anonymous
What about illegal slaves?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“No human being is illegal” she whispered to herself, from the comfort of a $2 million new build in the Walter Johnson cluster.


- with this smug lawn sign out front


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“No human being is illegal” she whispered to herself, from the comfort of a $2 million new build in the Walter Johnson cluster.




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What about illegal slaves?


The ones liberals are freaked out about not being able to mow their lawns if they get booted out? Or the ones that pick their strawberries for purchase at whole foods?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about illegal slaves?


The ones liberals are freaked out about not being able to mow their lawns if they get booted out? Or the ones that pick their strawberries for purchase at whole foods?


Only liberals eat strawberries?

Only liberals get their lawns mowed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about illegal slaves?


The ones liberals are freaked out about not being able to mow their lawns if they get booted out? Or the ones that pick their strawberries for purchase at whole foods?


Who will pick the cotton ?
Anonymous
'It’s not “criminal” to enter the US illegally' just illegal.


And, it is not illegal to deport them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“No human being is illegal” she whispered to herself, from the comfort of a $2 million new build in the Walter Johnson cluster.


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