No human being is illegal

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s just semantics. If you want us to say no human is illegal, that’s fine. But humans can be illegal immigrants, right? Humans can do illegal things, right?

If a human enters the US illegally, that’s a criminal action. Would you prefer we can them “criminals”. That would be accurate, no?

How about saying "undocumented" instead? When you get down to it the distinction is whether or not they have a birth certificate.

Lots of illegal immigrants have documents. The phrase 'illegal immigrants' which can be shortened to 'illegals' explains the situation where 'undocumented' does not.
Indeed lots of Americans right now would not be able to provide a birth certificate.
Also, lots of people without a US birth certificate are here legally.
Anonymous
Asked about illegal immigration, Sonny Bono said "It's illegal".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First you have to make them seem not human...

Hitler playbook



+ 1,000%!

Dehumanizing your enemy is vitally important to set up the conditions that will allow them to slaughtered on an industrial scale when you attain enough political power to start the process.

It all starts with isolating language and labeling them, to allow for cutting them off from “normal” people. Use words and labels that eliminate their humanity, and make it easier to allow them to be thought of as non-human.

Things like:

Irredeemables
Deplorables
Fascists
MAGAs
Zionists



You are so right! Let me just add to your list the following dehumanizing words and labels:

Leftist
Marxist
Socialist
Communist
Woke
Elitist
Snowflake
Social justice warrior
Libt**d
Virtue signaler
The woke mob
Left-wing loonies

Or, the phrase often used by our president: "radical left lunatics."


But “basket of deplorables” is acceptable to you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No human is illegal. But, humans do illegal things. By your analysis, we can't enforce any law because humans are the ones breaking them.


What are people who do not have permission to be in a country called in other counties? France? Japan? Australia? Argentina? UK? Poland? Kenya? Egypt? Saudi Arabia? South Korea?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because it’s a lie. That’s like saying no one is a criminal. Yes, humans can be illegal aliens.


and Illegal Alien is the correct term. it is factual and used in case law.

just stupid politics to use something else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because it’s a lie. That’s like saying no one is a criminal. Yes, humans can be illegal aliens.


and Illegal Alien is the correct term. it is factual and used in case law.

just stupid politics to use something else.


This is correct. Crossing the border without authorization is an ILLEGAL act. If you are in this country legally, you are still an ALIEN to the nation (because you are a citizen of a foreign nation). Combine the two words and you have ILLEGAL ALIEN.

What is wrong with using the correct terminology?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because it’s a lie. That’s like saying no one is a criminal. Yes, humans can be illegal aliens.

Yup, just like your European ancestors who came here and stole the land from native Americans. THAT was most definitely criminal behavior.
Anonymous
Yup, just like your European ancestors who came here and stole the land from native Americans. THAT was most definitely criminal behavior.


What laws were broken? Be specific.
Anonymous
No human being is illegal.... as long as they are in a place they should be legally. The second they do not meet that criterion, they are ILLEGAL.
Anonymous
What is fascinating here is how much empathy there is for people committing the crime of crossing the border without permission versus people who tell their story as the child of a rape/incest. The latter stories crop up every once in a while and DCUM tears into them for existing, how they ruined their mother’s life, etc. Sad. In the first case, someone chose to do something illegal, in the second, someone had no choice.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No human is illegal. But, humans do illegal things. By your analysis, we can't enforce any law because humans are the ones breaking them.


What are people who do not have permission to be in a country called in other counties? France? Japan? Australia? Argentina? UK? Poland? Kenya? Egypt? Saudi Arabia? South Korea?
Target practice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s just semantics. If you want us to say no human is illegal, that’s fine. But humans can be illegal immigrants, right? Humans can do illegal things, right?

If a human enters the US illegally, that’s a criminal action. Would you prefer we can them “criminals”. That would be accurate, no?

How about saying "undocumented" instead? When you get down to it the distinction is whether or not they have a birth certificate.


Most people from Oregon and New Hampshire use the term Sans-doc when referring to undocumented immigrants. I think it's appropriate.


My uncle grew up in NYC, speaking Italian (dialect); the child of immigrants from Italy. The bigoted slur he endured was similar: “WOP,” which was a derisive acronym slung at Italian immigrants, and which stood for “with out papers.”

Not going to use “Sans-doc.” Ever.


Unfortunately, hatred of the other is nothing new in this country--it has always been present. My father's parents were Eastern European immigrants who immigrated to Cleveland. Although my father was US-born with an American accent, had a pale pink complexion, and didn't look particularly "ethnic," he was once called a WOP. I will never use the term "illegal alien." I will always use "undocumented migrant."

PS. All these years I did not know that WOP stood for "without papers." Learn something new here every day.


We use terms like MAGA on DCUM to dehumanize.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No human is illegal. But, humans do illegal things. By your analysis, we can't enforce any law because humans are the ones breaking them.


What are people who do not have permission to be in a country called in other counties? France? Japan? Australia? Argentina? UK? Poland? Kenya? Egypt? Saudi Arabia? South Korea?
Target practice.


Seriously, what label do other countries use?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First you have to make them seem not human...

Hitler playbook



+ 1,000%!

Dehumanizing your enemy is vitally important to set up the conditions that will allow them to slaughtered on an industrial scale when you attain enough political power to start the process.

It all starts with isolating language and labeling them, to allow for cutting them off from “normal” people. Use words and labels that eliminate their humanity, and make it easier to allow them to be thought of as non-human.

Things like:

Irredeemables
Deplorables
Fascists
MAGAs
Zionists



You are so right! Let me just add to your list the following dehumanizing words and labels:

Leftist
Marxist
Socialist
Communist
Woke
Elitist
Snowflake
Social justice warrior
Libt**d
Virtue signaler
The woke mob
Left-wing loonies

Or, the phrase often used by our president: "radical left lunatics."


But “basket of deplorables” is acceptable to you?


Is "libt**d" acceptable to you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No human is illegal. But, humans do illegal things. By your analysis, we can't enforce any law because humans are the ones breaking them.


What are people who do not have permission to be in a country called in other counties? France? Japan? Australia? Argentina? UK? Poland? Kenya? Egypt? Saudi Arabia? South Korea?
Target practice.
In Saudi Arabia they are called infiltrators as well as illegal aliens.

Infiltrator is a proper term because it indicates these law breakers are entering the country as a hostile, invading force.

Seriously, what label do other countries use?
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