Emory v Cornell

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

[Anonymous]

Congrats! Emory really hard to get into. Great for pre-med.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Premed track DC. Got in Emory and Cornell CALS.

Cornell.

It is an ivy and has the ivy draw.

It has a lot of other excellent majors if organic chemistry doesn't go as planned.

The medical school acceptance rate isn't based on the cornell brand vs the emory brand, it is based on who is going to cornell vs emory and who ends up ap[plying out of emory be cornell. If Emory is more draconian with weeding out pre-med students than cornell is then they will have a higher med school acceptance rate. I wouldn't look at differences in that acceptance rate unless they are so large it looks like one school is doing a better job of preparing kids for the MCAT than the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

Yes Oxdord is still harder and no TO is not only for waitlisted students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Premed track DC. Got in Emory and Cornell CALS.

Cornell.

It is an ivy and has the ivy draw.

It has a lot of other excellent majors if organic chemistry doesn't go as planned.

The medical school acceptance rate isn't based on the cornell brand vs the emory brand, it is based on who is going to cornell vs emory and who ends up ap[plying out of emory be cornell. If Emory is more draconian with weeding out pre-med students than cornell is then they will have a higher med school acceptance rate. I wouldn't look at differences in that acceptance rate unless they are so large it looks like one school is doing a better job of preparing kids for the MCAT than the other.

Yet the data is clear Emory is better for premed. 450 Emory students apply to medical school yearly. Thats 2x of Cornell despite Cornell being 2x the size of Emory as a whole. Its not really a comparison, the "ivy draw" is not something that helps Cornell that much in comparison to Emory or Vandy etc.

[Anonymous]

Isn't the Cornell transfer option mainly for in-state residents? An in-state benefit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Premed track DC. Got in Emory and Cornell CALS.

Cornell.

It is an ivy and has the ivy draw.

It has a lot of other excellent majors if organic chemistry doesn't go as planned.

The medical school acceptance rate isn't based on the cornell brand vs the emory brand, it is based on who is going to cornell vs emory and who ends up ap[plying out of emory be cornell. If Emory is more draconian with weeding out pre-med students than cornell is then they will have a higher med school acceptance rate. I wouldn't look at differences in that acceptance rate unless they are so large it looks like one school is doing a better job of preparing kids for the MCAT than the other.

Yet the data is clear Emory is better for premed. 450 Emory students apply to medical school yearly. Thats 2x of Cornell despite Cornell being 2x the size of Emory as a whole. Its not really a comparison, the "ivy draw" is not something that helps Cornell that much in comparison to Emory or Vandy etc.

Please cite your source that Emory has twice the number of med school applicants than Cornell. My source says that Cornell has more applicants:
https://www.aamc.org/media/9636/download

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Emory js more prestigious than CALS, IMO

Remember that CALS is one of the land-grant schools, making it more like a state university in terms of admission practices.

How so?

Do they have requirements for % in-state? Is it more difficult as OOS applicant?

What does it mean to be a land grant school?

Cornell is a private university made up of multiple “colleges.” Some were developed with private funds and some were developed with public funds from NY state. As such, those specific colleges favor NY residents and offer a lower “in-state” tuition. Students from outside of NY apply and are accepted to those schools. They pay full tuition.

At Cornell, CALS—College of Agriculture & Life Sciences—is one of the land grant schools. So are ILR—Industrial Labor Relations—and Human Ecology.

Favor in which way? The policy of Cornell's College of Human Ecology, for example, is to "[admit] the most competitive and compelling candidates regardless of residency."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Cornell transfer option mainly for in-state residents? An in-state benefit.

No. It’s open to anyone that the particular college wants to make a space for in the sophomore year. Some spots are offered right on Ivy Day. Most are offered later to waitlisted students. All of the colleges except the College of Engineering offer a TO. ILR and CALS offer the most.

My kid got one as did another kid here in DC (who went to Emory and then exercised the TO) My kid says that TO students are from all over, not just NY state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Emory js more prestigious than CALS, IMO

Remember that CALS is one of the land-grant schools, making it more like a state university in terms of admission practices.

How so?

Do they have requirements for % in-state? Is it more difficult as OOS applicant?

What does it mean to be a land grant school?

Cornell is a private university made up of multiple “colleges.” Some were developed with private funds and some were developed with public funds from NY state. As such, those specific colleges favor NY residents and offer a lower “in-state” tuition. Students from outside of NY apply and are accepted to those schools. They pay full tuition.

At Cornell, CALS—College of Agriculture & Life Sciences—is one of the land grant schools. So are ILR—Industrial Labor Relations—and Human Ecology.

Favor in which way? The policy of Cornell's College of Human Ecology, for example, is to "[admit] the most competitive and compelling candidates regardless of residency."

Correct. However when it comes down to candidates with the SAME qualifications, the NY state resident will have an edge, just as a legacy might have one.

Here is what my friend Chat has to say: While not a guaranteed quota, NY resident applicants to these colleges may receive a "second look" or have a slightly higher chance of admission compared to out-of-state applicants with similar qualifications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Cornell transfer option mainly for in-state residents? An in-state benefit.

No. It’s open to anyone that the particular college wants to make a space for in the sophomore year. Some spots are offered right on Ivy Day. Most are offered later to waitlisted students. All of the colleges except the College of Engineering offer a TO. ILR and CALS offer the most.

My kid got one as did another kid here in DC (who went to Emory and then exercised the TO) My kid says that TO students are from all over, not just NY state.

Started at Emory and transferred to Cornell via the TO option? That is an insight few would have. What is that student's opinion of Emory and Cornell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Emory js more prestigious than CALS, IMO

Remember that CALS is one of the land-grant schools, making it more like a state university in terms of admission practices.

How so?

Do they have requirements for % in-state? Is it more difficult as OOS applicant?

What does it mean to be a land grant school?

Cornell is a private university made up of multiple “colleges.” Some were developed with private funds and some were developed with public funds from NY state. As such, those specific colleges favor NY residents and offer a lower “in-state” tuition. Students from outside of NY apply and are accepted to those schools. They pay full tuition.

At Cornell, CALS—College of Agriculture & Life Sciences—is one of the land grant schools. So are ILR—Industrial Labor Relations—and Human Ecology.

Favor in which way? The policy of Cornell's College of Human Ecology, for example, is to "[admit] the most competitive and compelling candidates regardless of residency."

Correct. However when it comes down to candidates with the SAME qualifications, the NY state resident will have an edge, just as a legacy might have one.

Here is what my friend Chat has to say: While not a guaranteed quota, NY resident applicants to these colleges may receive a "second look" or have a slightly higher chance of admission compared to out-of-state applicants with similar qualifications.

You blindly trust what chat says?

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

Yes Oxdord is still harder and no TO is not only for waitlisted students.

Oxford is 15% admission rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Emory js more prestigious than CALS, IMO

Remember that CALS is one of the land-grant schools, making it more like a state university in terms of admission practices.

How so?

Do they have requirements for % in-state? Is it more difficult as OOS applicant?

What does it mean to be a land grant school?

Cornell is a private university made up of multiple “colleges.” Some were developed with private funds and some were developed with public funds from NY state. As such, those specific colleges favor NY residents and offer a lower “in-state” tuition. Students from outside of NY apply and are accepted to those schools. They pay full tuition.

At Cornell, CALS—College of Agriculture & Life Sciences—is one of the land grant schools. So are ILR—Industrial Labor Relations—and Human Ecology.

Favor in which way? The policy of Cornell's College of Human Ecology, for example, is to "[admit] the most competitive and compelling candidates regardless of residency."

Correct. However when it comes down to candidates with the SAME qualifications, the NY state resident will have an edge, just as a legacy might have one.

Here is what my friend Chat has to say: While not a guaranteed quota, NY resident applicants to these colleges may receive a "second look" or have a slightly higher chance of admission compared to out-of-state applicants with similar qualifications.

You blindly trust what chat says?

I was concerned by this too.