Emory v Cornell

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Anonymous wrote:Emory js more prestigious than CALS, IMO

Remember that CALS is one of the land-grant schools, making it more like a state university in terms of admission practices.

How so?

Do they have requirements for % in-state? Is it more difficult as OOS applicant?

What does it mean to be a land grant school?

Cornell is a private university made up of multiple “colleges.” Some were developed with private funds and some were developed with public funds from NY state. As such, those specific colleges favor NY residents and offer a lower “in-state” tuition. Students from outside of NY apply and are accepted to those schools. They pay full tuition.

At Cornell, CALS—College of Agriculture & Life Sciences—is one of the land grant schools. So are ILR—Industrial Labor Relations—and Human Ecology.

Favor in which way? The policy of Cornell's College of Human Ecology, for example, is to "[admit] the most competitive and compelling candidates regardless of residency."

Correct. However when it comes down to candidates with the SAME qualifications, the NY state resident will have an edge, just as a legacy might have one.

Here is what my friend Chat has to say: While not a guaranteed quota, NY resident applicants to these colleges may receive a "second look" or have a slightly higher chance of admission compared to out-of-state applicants with similar qualifications.

lol. Talk to an AO ,you fools. This site is a mass of disinformation.
if you are a full pay applicant from OOS, you will have the advantage in RD.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

Yes Oxdord is still harder and no TO is not only for waitlisted students.

Oxford is 15% admission rate.
Cornell is 8% admission rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Cornell transfer option mainly for in-state residents? An in-state benefit.

No. It’s open to anyone that the particular college wants to make a space for in the sophomore year. Some spots are offered right on Ivy Day. Most are offered later to waitlisted students. All of the colleges except the College of Engineering offer a TO. ILR and CALS offer the most.

My kid got one as did another kid here in DC (who went to Emory and then exercised the TO) My kid says that TO students are from all over, not just NY state.

Started at Emory and transferred to Cornell via the TO option? That is an insight few would have. What is that student's opinion of Emory and Cornell?

Besides the obvious weather and size differences, said that overall Cornell students are much more serious. Classes are more intense.

There are at least four TOs from Emory in my kid’s class.

Both schools are great for a variety of reasons for a variety of kids. No one is wrong for choosing one over the other either as a first year or a transfer.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory js more prestigious than CALS, IMO

Remember that CALS is one of the land-grant schools, making it more like a state university in terms of admission practices.

How so?

Do they have requirements for % in-state? Is it more difficult as OOS applicant?

What does it mean to be a land grant school?

Cornell is a private university made up of multiple “colleges.” Some were developed with private funds and some were developed with public funds from NY state. As such, those specific colleges favor NY residents and offer a lower “in-state” tuition. Students from outside of NY apply and are accepted to those schools. They pay full tuition.

At Cornell, CALS—College of Agriculture & Life Sciences—is one of the land grant schools. So are ILR—Industrial Labor Relations—and Human Ecology.

Favor in which way? The policy of Cornell's College of Human Ecology, for example, is to "[admit] the most competitive and compelling candidates regardless of residency."

Correct. However when it comes down to candidates with the SAME qualifications, the NY state resident will have an edge, just as a legacy might have one.

Here is what my friend Chat has to say: While not a guaranteed quota, NY resident applicants to these colleges may receive a "second look" or have a slightly higher chance of admission compared to out-of-state applicants with similar qualifications.

You blindly trust what chat says?

Lol

But Chat is my friend! 😜

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Anonymous wrote:i would 100% pick Emory. We visited Cornell and just found it to be super depressing. The city isn't charming (tons of vape shops, even obvious addicts wandering around etc) the campus is pretty poorly kept up, the kids looked unhappy and intense, the weather was crummy.
We really, really wanted to like Cornell as there was a major that my DC was interested in but it was just such a disappointment in these other ways. Your impression mileage may completely vary but we literally visited a second time to see if our impressions were wrong on trip number one.

Funny I found Emory depressing. Beautiful campus, but kids were mostly walking by themselves and not smiling. Very very quiet campus. At least Cornell has robust Ivy League sports.

But neither of us or our kids are making this decision. Cornell wins in prestige, but schools are close enough that kid should pick which he/she likes best

Debatable, especially for this major.

NOT DEBATABLE. My god…people please…..unless you are an Emory Mom here or live in that little section of ATL of the east coast Cornell 100% has on the PRESTIGE dpt and it is NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Alumni network is one of the largest in the Ivy League. Emory is a nothing burger in comparison.

Get out of the east coast and all of a sudden people will ask what is Emory?….this will NEVER happen with Cornell anywhere in the world.

Please STOP THE MADNESS.

Sorry I raised your blood pressure, but notice how, Emory didn't offer any scholarships, and Cornell gave direct admission and not transfer option/WL. Also social prestige has little to do with academic prestige, as OP is trying to get into medical school and one would think an "ivy" could do a bit better than 75%. But again Cornell is clearly the weakest Ivy and no different than Emory, Vandy, WashU, etc . For premed Emory is the better school, in the better city, with the better opportunities, and the better placement, and frankly a more attractive student body...Thats the nothing burger.

Emory mom has a point, 75% is lackluster. Cornell wouldn't be elite without the Ivy tag on it, and I would rather be in Atlanta.
Also, I went to another Ivy so no allegiance in this fight.

Yes you do. Because the older Ivies historically picked on Cornell for many of the reasons people fight about college admissions today.

Cornell was naturally larger by design (so considered less selective) and more proactive (not perfect) about admitting women, POCs, non-elite international students, FGLI (aka poor kids back then), and Jewish students. Other Ivies looked down on Cornell for having "trade" type schools and it was common in their historical joking patterns. The "lesser Ivy" construct is deeply rooted in class prejudice (at a minimum).

Careful what you perpetuate.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

Yes Oxdord is still harder and no TO is not only for waitlisted students.

Oxford is 15% admission rate.
Cornell is 8% admission rate.

Even though you can be given the TO option by Cornell. Not everyone is given that option. May I also assume that that number would be pretty small and selective?

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Anonymous wrote:i would 100% pick Emory. We visited Cornell and just found it to be super depressing. The city isn't charming (tons of vape shops, even obvious addicts wandering around etc) the campus is pretty poorly kept up, the kids looked unhappy and intense, the weather was crummy.
We really, really wanted to like Cornell as there was a major that my DC was interested in but it was just such a disappointment in these other ways. Your impression mileage may completely vary but we literally visited a second time to see if our impressions were wrong on trip number one.

Funny I found Emory depressing. Beautiful campus, but kids were mostly walking by themselves and not smiling. Very very quiet campus. At least Cornell has robust Ivy League sports.

But neither of us or our kids are making this decision. Cornell wins in prestige, but schools are close enough that kid should pick which he/she likes best

Debatable, especially for this major.

NOT DEBATABLE. My god…people please…..unless you are an Emory Mom here or live in that little section of ATL of the east coast Cornell 100% has on the PRESTIGE dpt and it is NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Alumni network is one of the largest in the Ivy League. Emory is a nothing burger in comparison.

Get out of the east coast and all of a sudden people will ask what is Emory?….this will NEVER happen with Cornell anywhere in the world.

Please STOP THE MADNESS.

Sorry I raised your blood pressure, but notice how, Emory didn't offer any scholarships, and Cornell gave direct admission and not transfer option/WL. Also social prestige has little to do with academic prestige, as OP is trying to get into medical school and one would think an "ivy" could do a bit better than 75%. But again Cornell is clearly the weakest Ivy and no different than Emory, Vandy, WashU, etc . For premed Emory is the better school, in the better city, with the better opportunities, and the better placement, and frankly a more attractive student body...Thats the nothing burger.

Emory mom has a point, 75% is lackluster. Cornell wouldn't be elite without the Ivy tag on it, and I would rather be in Atlanta.
Also, I went to another Ivy so no allegiance in this fight.

Yes you do. Because the older Ivies historically picked on Cornell for many of the reasons people fight about college admissions today.

Cornell was naturally larger by design (so considered less selective) and more proactive (not perfect) about admitting women, POCs, non-elite international students, FGLI (aka poor kids back then), and Jewish students. Other Ivies looked down on Cornell for having "trade" type schools and it was common in their historical joking patterns. The "lesser Ivy" construct is deeply rooted in class prejudice (at a minimum).

Careful what you perpetuate.

Np. Very true....and its exactly those "trade" colleges that are seeing the most demand today in a changing American workforce.
The 2 gifts Cornell has received in the last few months will forever change the school. Truly insane.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

Yes Oxdord is still harder and no TO is not only for waitlisted students.

Oxford is 15% admission rate.
Cornell is 8% admission rate.

Contract colleges much higher acceptance rate.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

Grasping at straws here. Oxford does not grant a degre and its students have poor stats relative to Cornell. It's not even close. Go check their class rank, GPA. If ED wasn't gamed, oxford would have an even lower yield than its 18% currently. Yes, you read that correctly. 82% turn it down rightfully so as do the vast majority of emory admits with a choice.

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No one cares about Emory.
But go on and argue among yourselves.

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Cornell wins for better social life and academics, but Emory has a better location. Neither made the list for my kids.

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Only one or two of the other Ivies approach Cornell in campus aesthetics.

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Cornell's transfer stats:

Acceptance rate: 9.2%

Yield: 75%

emory:

Transfer Acceptance 16%

Yield: 35%

undesirable during for both high schoolers and transfers

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

Yes Oxdord is still harder and no TO is not only for waitlisted students.

Oxford is 15% admission rate.
Cornell is 8% admission rate.

The admission rate of Oxford University in the UK is significantly higher than each.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Oxford college to Emory?

No different than Cornell ILR or Human Ecology. Or Barnard, or Vanderbilt's new campuses.

the emory bozo is out in force again. these other places grant degrees and are not 2 year junior colleges like oxford

Oxford being 2 years makes it more valid not less. Getting into Oxford College is much harder than Transferring into Cornell or Vandy after 2 years at CC. Cornell has guaranteed transfer and Vandy has a 25% transfer acceptance rate thats likely to increase after they open these side campuses.

The Transfer Option for Cornell is only available if you got waitlisted at Cornell. Is getting on the waitlist at Cornell harder or easier than getting admitted to Oxford at Emory?

Yes Oxdord is still harder and no TO is not only for waitlisted students.

Oxford is 15% admission rate.
Cornell is 8% admission rate.

Contract colleges much higher acceptance rate.

Cornell CALS (one of the "easier" contract colleges) 8% admission rate.