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Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!


Some of those kids and families value the academic over soccer which to be honest Arlington is a solid choice to be. Not saying they are a better club but they have been pretty stable and kids are getting recruited to play in the colleges they fit for. Not everyone is destined to play top D1 and that's ok.
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!


If you are a parent, and your child has an offer from D1 Le Moyne (78% accepted, 2,800 undergrads) and D3 Carnegie Mellon (11% acceptance, 8,000 undergrads + top grad school) you hope your kid picks Mellon. The lifetime value of a degree from WashU, Mellon, Emory, Hopkins (all ~10% or lower acceptance) is multiples more valuable.

Players that pick those schools have offers from D1, just not P4. So yeah, if I see those schools on the list, I know it means Arlington kids are being recruited.

PS, if your kid plays for LeMoyne and it gives them the opportunity live their dream to play D1 ball, that’s awesome! But as a parent, I’m thinking longer term - I’ll be happy and support my kid either way, but my kid currently has the grades so I will take elite D3 over D1 in the middle of upstate NY.
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goal post has now shifted towards integrating academics and sports.
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goal post has now shifted towards integrating academics and sports.


NIL settlement made that switch, D1 women’s programs are in trouble on the $$$ side.

And be real, when most people say D1, they mean P4. There’s now only 28 roster spots on those P4 teams, some might be forced to carry less. Small D1 schools with weak academics are objectively worse than top D3, both on the field and in the job market.
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!


If you are a parent, and your child has an offer from D1 Le Moyne (78% accepted, 2,800 undergrads) and D3 Carnegie Mellon (11% acceptance, 8,000 undergrads + top grad school) you hope your kid picks Mellon. The lifetime value of a degree from WashU, Mellon, Emory, Hopkins (all ~10% or lower acceptance) is multiples more valuable.

Players that pick those schools have offers from D1, just not P4. So yeah, if I see those schools on the list, I know it means Arlington kids are being recruited.

PS, if your kid plays for LeMoyne and it gives them the opportunity live their dream to play D1 ball, that’s awesome! But as a parent, I’m thinking longer term - I’ll be happy and support my kid either way, but my kid currently has the grades so I will take elite D3 over D1 in the middle of upstate NY.


+1 my son has had offers from many d2/d3 and done D1s we have never heard of—had to google. It’s a kid with perfect gpa/scores so went to a T10 on academics. Sorry, son, it would be ridiculous otherwise. They will find a way to keep playing at a high level if the passion is there.
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Looked at Arlington insta for girls, it does appear that they are heavy on academic schools for soccer. Not sure if the coaches have a pipeline or if it's just the aggressive NoVA moms, but it looks like it is a real thing.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!


Some of those kids and families value the academic over soccer which to be honest Arlington is a solid choice to be. Not saying they are a better club but they have been pretty stable and kids are getting recruited to play in the colleges they fit for. Not everyone is destined to play top D1 and that's ok.

Top tier academic schools is the goal for my kid. If soccer helps them get there even better.
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Anonymous wrote:Looked at Arlington insta for girls, it does appear that they are heavy on academic schools for soccer. Not sure if the coaches have a pipeline or if it's just the aggressive NoVA moms, but it looks like it is a real thing.


Of course it is the goal. Not at Arlington but DD who played high academic D3 was either interested in Ivies or UAA D3. Had no interest in P4. There was some interest in her from non P4 D1 more academic schools but she pretty quickly decided D3 was what she wanted when the Ivies did not work. She was pre-med. Now in med school.
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!


If you are a parent, and your child has an offer from D1 Le Moyne (78% accepted, 2,800 undergrads) and D3 Carnegie Mellon (11% acceptance, 8,000 undergrads + top grad school) you hope your kid picks Mellon. The lifetime value of a degree from WashU, Mellon, Emory, Hopkins (all ~10% or lower acceptance) is multiples more valuable.

Players that pick those schools have offers from D1, just not P4. So yeah, if I see those schools on the list, I know it means Arlington kids are being recruited.

PS, if your kid plays for LeMoyne and it gives them the opportunity live their dream to play D1 ball, that’s awesome! But as a parent, I’m thinking longer term - I’ll be happy and support my kid either way, but my kid currently has the grades so I will take elite D3 over D1 in the middle of upstate NY.


1000% this. My kid did a lower tier D1 and the coach really screwed over the players. School had no athletic budget for anything not football, and the academics were weak. She tried the portal but was so burned out she just transferred to tech as a regular student. She regrets the D1 or bust mindset now.
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For some girls they are shooting for pros. Others want to play D1 at a high level so P4 or other top programs. Others just want to play in D1 anywhere and yet other want to just play anywhere. Why is it so hard to think that there are girls that want to go to top schools?

Soccer to them is important but they have other plans. The sort in girl's soccer is not all by ability. Almost the entire UAA and a lot of NESCAC could play D-1 -- either mid or lower. Many of them would have taken an Ivy if there was an offer -- many were recruited Ivy. When we asked a UAA coach where she lost her top prospects to she said Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth, and Yale.

That is really true in this are where soccer runs upper middle class and rich. That impacts how the girls think about what they want to do with their life.
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!


If you are a parent, and your child has an offer from D1 Le Moyne (78% accepted, 2,800 undergrads) and D3 Carnegie Mellon (11% acceptance, 8,000 undergrads + top grad school) you hope your kid picks Mellon. The lifetime value of a degree from WashU, Mellon, Emory, Hopkins (all ~10% or lower acceptance) is multiples more valuable.

Players that pick those schools have offers from D1, just not P4. So yeah, if I see those schools on the list, I know it means Arlington kids are being recruited.

PS, if your kid plays for LeMoyne and it gives them the opportunity live their dream to play D1 ball, that’s awesome! But as a parent, I’m thinking longer term - I’ll be happy and support my kid either way, but my kid currently has the grades so I will take elite D3 over D1 in the middle of upstate NY.


LeMoyne is an odd comp, and yes Hopkins, CM and Wash U are great academic schools but shitty college experiences. Most parents paying through the nose for 10-12 years of youth soccer are surely not dreaming of sending their superstar athletes to Egg Head U.
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Anonymous wrote:Looked at Arlington insta for girls, it does appear that they are heavy on academic schools for soccer. Not sure if the coaches have a pipeline or if it's just the aggressive NoVA moms, but it looks like it is a real thing.


A lot of Arlington girls also go to very fancy private schools (Sidwell, Potomac, Hilton-Arms, etc). I think it’s the counselors at the private schools that are more connected than the Arlington coaches getting them into Ivies and top D3s.
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington feels like the only normal club left in this area. Probably because they have a great financial position and don’t have to invite all the chaos in like others.

good coaches for both genders, good Technical staff, good fields and no stupid ‘alliances’ to distract.

They also have really good college placement


Arlington doesn’t need an alliance. They have the most players of any club in nova.

Pretty average college placement for ECNL.


Agree with this but average for ECNL is pretty good.


I am not sure I would say it is "average". If your goal is P4, yeah, they are middle tier. But if you mix in academic as well as P4, then they are pretty good. In the last two years you have at least 3 Ivy and a shit ton of super high academic schools (Georgetown, USC, Vandy, Hopkins and too many top tier D3 schools to name).

For parents in this area, they'd willingly trade the scholarship money for the admissions ticket.


Too many top tier d3 schools? Arlington is touted as a top club and the goal is d3 recruiting?!


If you are a parent, and your child has an offer from D1 Le Moyne (78% accepted, 2,800 undergrads) and D3 Carnegie Mellon (11% acceptance, 8,000 undergrads + top grad school) you hope your kid picks Mellon. The lifetime value of a degree from WashU, Mellon, Emory, Hopkins (all ~10% or lower acceptance) is multiples more valuable.

Players that pick those schools have offers from D1, just not P4. So yeah, if I see those schools on the list, I know it means Arlington kids are being recruited.

PS, if your kid plays for LeMoyne and it gives them the opportunity live their dream to play D1 ball, that’s awesome! But as a parent, I’m thinking longer term - I’ll be happy and support my kid either way, but my kid currently has the grades so I will take elite D3 over D1 in the middle of upstate NY.


LeMoyne is an odd comp, and yes Hopkins, CM and Wash U are great academic schools but shitty college experiences. Most parents paying through the nose for 10-12 years of youth soccer are surely not dreaming of sending their superstar athletes to Egg Head U.


I doubt most of the parents we are talking about dream about the kid playing soccer. I think they dream about the school. Egg head U as you say. Soccer is a game. Not what you do with your life. Why are those not a good college experience?
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Anonymous wrote:Looked at Arlington insta for girls, it does appear that they are heavy on academic schools for soccer. Not sure if the coaches have a pipeline or if it's just the aggressive NoVA moms, but it looks like it is a real thing.


A lot of Arlington girls also go to very fancy private schools (Sidwell, Potomac, Hilton-Arms, etc). I think it’s the counselors at the private schools that are more connected than the Arlington coaches getting them into Ivies and top D3s.


And you would be wrong - the fancy private school helps them get through the pre-read, but if they don't have a coach filing the pre-read request, then their HS counselor has no ability to get them on a soccer team.

And sure, you can argue that the coach might be more comfortable putting in the pre-read request for a kid who went to a fancy private school, but given the push by most of those schools to up their geographic diversity, it's less than you might think.
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