How long till the economy collapses?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has lived through the collapse of a democracy or studied that topic is very worried. Are they crazy or just better informed than you about the signs that institutions are failing and power is being dangerously ceded to one man with authoritarian tendencies?

A lot depends on if the executive still follows the courts. The legislative branch has shown no signs of being a check. They’ve been verbally threatening not to follow court orders for a few days. Threatening judges. Project 2025 says ignore the court rulings and proceed with your policies.

Are we crazy for taking them at their word? Where do other people find the confidence to believe they wouldn’t actually do it?

Really something that reducing the size of the federal workforce and ending ridiculous spending by USAID = the end of democracy.

If this is so obvious, why won’t he just propose these cuts to congress so they can pass a law cutting them? Why does he insist on doing it illegally?

Because Congress is incentivized to stay in power which means doling out funds and special pork projects for their constituents.

By staying in power, you mean doing what voters want? Wow, what a concept! Sounds like democracy!

Project 2025 had a 4% approval rating. Herpes is more popular.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the people saying that Trump has to make cuts to fix the deficit. Here are his just announced plans:

No tax on tips.
No tax on seniors’ Social Security.
No tax on overtime pay.
Renew Trump’s 2017 tax cuts, set to expire in 2026.
Increase the deduction for state-and-local taxes, now limited at $10,000.

this sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Not if you’re trying to fix the deficit it doesn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL ! This thread asks "How long till the economy collapses ?" --in an attempt to blame the new administration. Wake up folks. The USA has a national debt approaching $40 million and is still engaging in annual budget deficit spending !!!

Time to stop playing politics and get down to the business of acting (spending & budgeting) like a responsible country. The world's problems are not our responsibility to solve.

Pro Tip: If you don't like the price of eggs,then don't buy eggs.

How much did deficit spending go down while the Republicans had total control of everything from 2017 to 2019? How much did they reduce the debt then?

Crickets. You'll never get an answer about this because it turns out it was never about the deficit, just like it isn't about the sanctity of the constitution. I never want to hear one word from a republican ever again about the debt or the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has lived through the collapse of a democracy or studied that topic is very worried. Are they crazy or just better informed than you about the signs that institutions are failing and power is being dangerously ceded to one man with authoritarian tendencies?

A lot depends on if the executive still follows the courts. The legislative branch has shown no signs of being a check. They’ve been verbally threatening not to follow court orders for a few days. Threatening judges. Project 2025 says ignore the court rulings and proceed with your policies.

Are we crazy for taking them at their word? Where do other people find the confidence to believe they wouldn’t actually do it?

Really something that reducing the size of the federal workforce and ending ridiculous spending by USAID = the end of democracy.

If this is so obvious, why won’t he just propose these cuts to congress so they can pass a law cutting them? Why does he insist on doing it illegally?

Because Congress is incentivized to stay in power which means doling out funds and special pork projects for their constituents.

By staying in power, you mean doing what voters want? Wow, what a concept! Sounds like democracy!

Project 2025 had a 4% approval rating. Herpes is more popular.

What point are you trying to make? The PP was responding to the MAGA claiming Trump shouldn’t go through congress for his proposed cuts because they are incentivized to not approve them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL ! This thread asks "How long till the economy collapses ?" --in an attempt to blame the new administration. Wake up folks. The USA has a national debt approaching $40 million and is still engaging in annual budget deficit spending !!!

Time to stop playing politics and get down to the business of acting (spending & budgeting) like a responsible country. The world's problems are not our responsibility to solve.

Pro Tip: If you don't like the price of eggs,then don't buy eggs.

How much did deficit spending go down while the Republicans had total control of everything from 2017 to 2019? How much did they reduce the debt then?

Crickets. You'll never get an answer about this because it turns out it was never about the deficit, just like it isn't about the sanctity of the constitution. I never want to hear one word from a republican ever again about the debt or the rule of law.

+1. I switched from independent to democrat after J6 when I realized there were no republicans left to vote for and there are so few independents who run… 40% of the democratic platform is not really my jam, but the way that the republican party has embraced Trump and his lawlessness is something I can’t get behind and then all this preaching about the sanctity of life and America first only to take billions away from programs that help poor children and the disabled and add trillions to our national debt. It’s all so pathological. Let’s normalize sanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the President, even this one, has that much to do with what the economy does.

Of course, it does. Tariffs, mass layoffs, freezing of federal funding. All this impacts the economy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL ! This thread asks "How long till the economy collapses ?" --in an attempt to blame the new administration. Wake up folks. The USA has a national debt approaching $40 million and is still engaging in annual budget deficit spending !!!

Time to stop playing politics and get down to the business of acting (spending & budgeting) like a responsible country. The world's problems are not our responsibility to solve.

Pro Tip: If you don't like the price of eggs,then don't buy eggs.

Problem is, It is not at all about spending cut. That is just fancy terminology to make the audience feels better. It is all about move the money from ones to another.

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The whole plan is to replace democracy. https://www.notesfromthecircus.com/p/the-plot-against-america?

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By his magical 100 days

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Removing regulations and shrinking government involvement in business is going to lead to a major economic boom. We are going to see growth we have not seen in our lifetime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Removing regulations and shrinking government involvement in business is going to lead to a major economic boom. We are going to see growth we have not seen in our lifetime.

Followed by a crisis not seen in our grandparents lifetimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Removing regulations and shrinking government involvement in business is going to lead to a major economic boom. We are going to see growth we have not seen in our lifetime.

Please tell me what kind of regulations you mean. Keeping our water and air clean? Keeping chemicals out of our food? I though MAHA was all about that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Removing regulations and shrinking government involvement in business is going to lead to a major economic boom. We are going to see growth we have not seen in our lifetime.

Followed by a crisis not seen in our grandparents lifetimes.

Except we’re going to skip right to the crisis. The deck has been stacked. Any card we pick will be bad. To put a fine point on it, the former Republican majority leader of the Senate just voted against the Republican nominee for Director of National Intelligence saying she had shown “extraordinarily bad judgement.” And he was the only Republican to cast a vote against her. There is extraordinarily bad judgement on display everywhere. We’re in a race to the bottom and we’re going to get there very soon.

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Anonymous wrote:83 days 7 hours 36 minutes 10 seconds.

We only have that long IF we're lucky. OP, sell everything now and buy meal replacement packages, a water purifier, and guns/ammo to protect your bunker.

All this time, gold and prepper companies were advertising on Fox when their best customers were actually watching MSNBC.

Because Faux audience is nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the people saying that Trump has to make cuts to fix the deficit. Here are his just announced plans:

No tax on tips.
No tax on seniors’ Social Security.
No tax on overtime pay.
Renew Trump’s 2017 tax cuts, set to expire in 2026.
Increase the deduction for state-and-local taxes, now limited at $10,000.

This is a drop in the $4 billion bucket. How is he going to pay for it? Total BS.