DOGE's new scam - "Medicaid/Medicare Fraud"

Anonymous
One poster
"Qualifying is incredibly hard. "

The next poster
"There are a bunch of families in my community on Medicaid."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Medicaid reform is one thing I can get behind.

Why can my lazy-azz neighbor, who has Medicaid and no job, get Mounjaro for free without diabetes. Why are we paying for her weight loss?


Oh.My.God. First of all, losing weight will reduce costs and co-morbidities in the long run. Secondly, talk to your STATE about what they cover. Each state gets to decide so instead of throwing out the whole thing. Thirdly, you don't get medicaid for being lazy. Qualifying is incredibly hard. Why don't you try...never mind. You are too far gone to even understand any of this.


DP. I don’t know if it’s that hard. A lot of people know how to work the system.

I understand that a few people here or
there isn’t going to make a difference. But we’ve set up Medicaid so that recipients actually get way better care than a lot of working adults with private healthcare get! I don’t think that’s right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.


This person is a genius!!!

I’m okay with cutting A LOT of foreign aid ($400M in Gaza???) but not all of it and not an entire agency!

Cut Medicare/Medicaid! Follow the money!!!



Funny. Biden spent $320 on a pier in Gaza and destroyed it a week later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.


This person is a genius!!!

I’m okay with cutting A LOT of foreign aid ($400M in Gaza???) but not all of it and not an entire agency!

Cut Medicare/Medicaid! Follow the money!!!



Funny. Biden spent $320 on a pier in Gaza and destroyed it a week later.


$320 million
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Medicaid reform is one thing I can get behind.

Why can my lazy-azz neighbor, who has Medicaid and no job, get Mounjaro for free without diabetes. Why are we paying for her weight loss?


+1. There are a bunch of families in my community on Medicaid. One was complaining about the glasses covered by Medicaid for their child and how they weren’t stylish enough. I guess it never crossed her mind she could actually work to buy nicer frames.


Completely uninformed. She is not getting medicaid for being lazy.


Hmmm. I know this person, you do not. Who would be in a better position to judge whether she’s abusing the system?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:17 cents of every dollar spent goes to health care.

17% of GDP is not sustainable.


So how about we look at tax loopholes for the rich? Because the US wastes about 1.8 trillion on those every year. Or what about Elon's own contracts with the US that's worth billions? You don't think there might be any bloating there?


"Tax Loopholes"? LOL

The U.S. doesn't waste anything on that. You're coming from the point of view that everything is owned by the U.S. government. Newsflash - that's not the case.

Elon's money is Elon's money. Same with everyone else. Newsflash - we have private property rights in the U.S. That means you don't just take other people's property when you want stuff*. Got it?


* - this applies whether you make quizillion dollars a year or ten dollars a year. Private Property Rights. Learn it. Embrace it. Love it. It's what makes us America and it's pretty fundamental..


You sound like you want to live in a soveriegn state. Go to Somalia. No taxes there.



You are not owed anything.

You sound like you need a lesson in civics and history. Get to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.

So you do realize that Medicare and Medicaid expenditures are more efficient than private health insurance because the government caps costs for procedures? If we get rid of those programs US health care expenditures would rise, not fall, assuming the same level of care.


It is not getting rid of the programs but the wastage. You are advocating for wastage. Let them see the books and figure out what companies are charging Medicare excessively.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.

So you do realize that Medicare and Medicaid expenditures are more efficient than private health insurance because the government caps costs for procedures? If we get rid of those programs US health care expenditures would rise, not fall, assuming the same level of care.


It is not getting rid of the programs but the wastage. You are advocating for wastage. Let them see the books and figure out what companies are charging Medicare excessively.


You mean in the surgical way Musk has been working so far? Spare me your wisdom. You've been doing a terrible job of both saving money and figuring out what agencies do so you can make it work better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One poster
"Qualifying is incredibly hard. "

The next poster
"There are a bunch of families in my community on Medicaid."


It just means that the seond PP lives in a very high poverty neighborhood or one with a lot of foster children, old people, and disabilities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:17 cents of every dollar spent goes to health care.

17% of GDP is not sustainable.


So how about we look at tax loopholes for the rich? Because the US wastes about 1.8 trillion on those every year. Or what about Elon's own contracts with the US that's worth billions? You don't think there might be any bloating there?


"Tax Loopholes"? LOL

The U.S. doesn't waste anything on that. You're coming from the point of view that everything is owned by the U.S. government. Newsflash - that's not the case.

Elon's money is Elon's money. Same with everyone else. Newsflash - we have private property rights in the U.S. That means you don't just take other people's property when you want stuff*. Got it?


* - this applies whether you make quizillion dollars a year or ten dollars a year. Private Property Rights. Learn it. Embrace it. Love it. It's what makes us America and it's pretty fundamental..


You sound like you want to live in a soveriegn state. Go to Somalia. No taxes there.



You are not owed anything.

You sound like you need a lesson in civics and history. Get to it.


You are not owed anything, esp a tax free existence. If that is what you want, find a country that meets your needs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.


This person is a genius!!!

I’m okay with cutting A LOT of foreign aid ($400M in Gaza???) but not all of it and not an entire agency!

Cut Medicare/Medicaid! Follow the money!!!



Funny. Biden spent $320 on a pier in Gaza and destroyed it a week later. :roll:


$320 million

Democrats LOVE waste.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Medicaid reform is one thing I can get behind.

Why can my lazy-azz neighbor, who has Medicaid and no job, get Mounjaro for free without diabetes. Why are we paying for her weight loss?


Oh.My.God. First of all, losing weight will reduce costs and co-morbidities in the long run. Secondly, talk to your STATE about what they cover. Each state gets to decide so instead of throwing out the whole thing. Thirdly, you don't get medicaid for being lazy. Qualifying is incredibly hard. Why don't you try...never mind. You are too far gone to even understand any of this.


DP. I don’t know if it’s that hard. A lot of people know how to work the system.

I understand that a few people here or
there isn’t going to make a difference. But we’ve set up Medicaid so that recipients actually get way better care than a lot of working adults with private healthcare get! I don’t think that’s right.


SO there it is. The maga mindset. No one better be getting something I ain't getting, even if it makes our society more healthy and strong. Also, your premise is that only employed people deserve care? Really?

And again--we dont throw out whole systems because of negligible fraud. See where fraud actually occurs--Rick Scott. The Scooter Store.
Why do people always demonize the weak and powerless instead of the giants actually wasting your money?
Why is that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.


This person is a genius!!!

I’m okay with cutting A LOT of foreign aid ($400M in Gaza???) but not all of it and not an entire agency!

Cut Medicare/Medicaid! Follow the money!!!



Funny. Biden spent $320 on a pier in Gaza and destroyed it a week later. :roll:


$320 million

Democrats LOVE waste.


No, but we do love Democracy and the constitution? When did you decide to give up on life and become a Russian pawn?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Medicaid reform is one thing I can get behind.

Why can my lazy-azz neighbor, who has Medicaid and no job, get Mounjaro for free without diabetes. Why are we paying for her weight loss?


Oh.My.God. First of all, losing weight will reduce costs and co-morbidities in the long run. Secondly, talk to your STATE about what they cover. Each state gets to decide so instead of throwing out the whole thing. Thirdly, you don't get medicaid for being lazy. Qualifying is incredibly hard. Why don't you try...never mind. You are too far gone to even understand any of this.


DP. I don’t know if it’s that hard. A lot of people know how to work the system.

I understand that a few people here or
there isn’t going to make a difference. But we’ve set up Medicaid so that recipients actually get way better care than a lot of working adults with private healthcare get! I don’t think that’s right.


SO there it is. The maga mindset. No one better be getting something I ain't getting, even if it makes our society more healthy and strong. Also, your premise is that only employed people deserve care? Really?

And again--we dont throw out whole systems because of negligible fraud. See where fraud actually occurs--Rick Scott. The Scooter Store.
Why do people always demonize the weak and powerless instead of the giants actually wasting your money?
Why is that?



The fraud is not negligible.

Who is "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket?

No one is demonizing the weak and powerless, but you brought this on with a lack of common sense and a sense of wanting ever more sugar like a drug addict.

Auditing and shutting down fraud, waste and abuse is a good thing. The payers demand it. We're not going to keep on this self-destructive path you seem to want forever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Medicaid reform is one thing I can get behind.

Why can my lazy-azz neighbor, who has Medicaid and no job, get Mounjaro for free without diabetes. Why are we paying for her weight loss?


+1. There are a bunch of families in my community on Medicaid. One was complaining about the glasses covered by Medicaid for their child and how they weren’t stylish enough. I guess it never crossed her mind she could actually work to buy nicer frames.


Completely uninformed. She is not getting medicaid for being lazy.


Hmmm. I know this person, you do not. Who would be in a better position to judge whether she’s abusing the system?


she might not be but there is a lot of other fraud happening and everything needs to be looked into. My mother is on medicaid and I am ok in answering if any questions come.
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