DOGE's new scam - "Medicaid/Medicare Fraud"

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.

So you do realize that Medicare and Medicaid expenditures are more efficient than private health insurance because the government caps costs for procedures? If we get rid of those programs US health care expenditures would rise, not fall, assuming the same level of care.

It is not getting rid of the programs but the wastage. You are advocating for wastage. Let them see the books and figure out what companies are charging Medicare excessively.

You mean in the surgical way Musk has been working so far? Spare me your wisdom. You've been doing a terrible job of both saving money and figuring out what agencies do so you can make it work better.

It has to be done this way because the people you voted before didn't care to stop the gravy train for all the fraudsters sucking medicare and medicaid. It is not going to be pretty but that is the only way to get it done.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.

This person is a genius!!!

I’m okay with cutting A LOT of foreign aid ($400M in Gaza???) but not all of it and not an entire agency!

Cut Medicare/Medicaid! Follow the money!!!

Funny. Biden spent $320 on a pier in Gaza and destroyed it a week later.

Why do you people keep bringing up Biden? Nobody here is in a Biden cult, you know? I like Joe Biden, but he wasn’t perfect.

Was he better than Trump? Of course, but that bar is pretty low. As Presidents go, it’s the lowest.

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Anonymous wrote:You know it's coming. It's a big target. It's a large percentage of the federal budget and it's starving everything else.

American taxpayers footed the bill for at least $1.8 trillion in federal and state health care expenditures in 2022 — about 41% of the nearly $4.5 trillion in both public and private health care spending the U.S. recorded last year, according to the annual report released last week by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

https://www.statnews.com/2023/12/19/us-healthcare-costs-government-covers-41-percent-of-total/

I guess the red states better prepare to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

California gets more Medicaid funding than the entire state budget of Florida.

Bootstrap that. Zero federal funding to illegal aliens and able bodied people.

California has a significantly larger population than Florida. It's also a significant part of the country's economy.

People are so dumb. 1, maybe if Florida actually spent money on stuff their budget would be bigger. Two able-bodied people and undocumented immigrants cannot get Medicaid.

Do you guys people really think they just show up at the office and say hey sign me up for that government check?

I mean I get having an opinion but at least try to be informed. Don't sound like the biggest dumb dumb on the Earth

Who the hell cares even if they aren’t “both able bodied”? We shouldn’t need to pay for services (healthcare or otherwise) for illegal immigrants no matter what their situation is.

Hospitals cannot turn away patients. Should hospitals go broke and thus not be available for anyone just so that you can satisfy your sense of righteousness?

YES they can. You are referring to EMTALA, which is a law that says emergency rooms cannot turn away patients needing emergency care, nor can they turn away pregnant women in labor - but once the patient is stabilized, they no longer need to provide care for them and can send them away. Likewise, hospitals can turn away patients in non-emergency situations. And, that law only applies to hospitals that accept medicare. A private hospital that does not accept medicare (such as what the billionaire Republican class has been advocating for) is NOT subject to that law at all and can turn away anyone they want.

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Anonymous wrote:Medicaid reform is one thing I can get behind.

Why can my lazy-azz neighbor, who has Medicaid and no job, get Mounjaro for free without diabetes. Why are we paying for her weight loss?

Oh.My.God. First of all, losing weight will reduce costs and co-morbidities in the long run. Secondly, talk to your STATE about what they cover. Each state gets to decide so instead of throwing out the whole thing. Thirdly, you don't get medicaid for being lazy. Qualifying is incredibly hard. Why don't you try...never mind. You are too far gone to even understand any of this.

how do you think hospitals pay for the illegals they treat? By increasing the cost for medicare and Medicaid.

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I'm fine with going after healthcare providers that submitted fraudulent claims. But I think there's a lot more grift and greed going on in the insurance industry.

Also, why isn't Elon going after all of the PPP fraud?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with going after healthcare providers that submitted fraudulent claims. But I think there's a lot more grift and greed going on in the insurance industry.

Also, why isn't Elon going after all of the PPP fraud?

Medicare only has around 2% overhead, as compared to closer to 18% overhead in private insurance. There is a LOT more waste, grift and abuse in private insurance. But i guess Elon doesn't want us knowing that for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Finding this kind of fraud is difficult and time consuming. They may cut off payments, but it won't be because they discovered fraud. Aside, Florida is a good place to look for it, and you know that won't happen.

They're taking over the government. They don't care about the fraud. This is step two to taking over the United States.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with going after healthcare providers that submitted fraudulent claims. But I think there's a lot more grift and greed going on in the insurance industry.

Also, why isn't Elon going after all of the PPP fraud?

Elon Musk is engaged in State Capture and taking over the US government. He's not interested in fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with going after healthcare providers that submitted fraudulent claims. But I think there's a lot more grift and greed going on in the insurance industry.

Also, why isn't Elon going after all of the PPP fraud?

I think they’re going after everything. But they can’t clean up the entire country in 2 weeks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with going after healthcare providers that submitted fraudulent claims. But I think there's a lot more grift and greed going on in the insurance industry.

Also, why isn't Elon going after all of the PPP fraud?

I think they’re going after everything. But they can’t clean up the entire country in 2 weeks.

Musk is engaging in theater, with fictitious fraud. I'm far more concerned with what he's ACTUALLY doing, which is his own fraud.

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Medicare fraud? Like Senator (and Felon!) Rick Scott's $1.7B Medicare fraud?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Scott#:~:text=During%20his%20tenure%20as%20chief,fraud%20settlement%20in%20U.S.%20history.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at Medicare and Medicaid makes a zillion times more sense than going after something like usaid or science research dollars. I detest trump but Medicare and Medicaid is where we are spending all of our country's money and it is where we need to look to figure out how not to go bankrupt.

So you do realize that Medicare and Medicaid expenditures are more efficient than private health insurance because the government caps costs for procedures? If we get rid of those programs US health care expenditures would rise, not fall, assuming the same level of care.

It is not getting rid of the programs but the wastage. You are advocating for wastage. Let them see the books and figure out what companies are charging Medicare excessively.

You mean in the surgical way Musk has been working so far? Spare me your wisdom. You've been doing a terrible job of both saving money and figuring out what agencies do so you can make it work better.

I agree that Trump did nothing to act against Medicare fraudsters during his first 4 year term, probably because Medicare fraudsters like Republican Senator Rick Scott are his allies and base of support.

https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/2024/12/u-s-sen-rick-scott-trump-s-nominations-cement-florida-as-the-epicenter-of-the-gop

It has to be done this way because the people you voted before didn't care to stop the gravy train for all the fraudsters sucking medicare and medicaid. It is not going to be pretty but that is the only way to get it done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they truly want to cut down on Medicaid and Medicare spending there is really only one answer: what they called “death panels” during the Obamacare debate. Over XX percent of the health care spending a person receives occurs in the last 6 months of life. Stop keeping those old people alive so long, costs will go way down.

13-25% in last year of life, for Medicare.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6610551/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4638261/

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Anonymous wrote:If they truly want to cut down on Medicaid and Medicare spending there is really only one answer: what they called “death panels” during the Obamacare debate. Over XX percent of the health care spending a person receives occurs in the last 6 months of life. Stop keeping those old people alive so long, costs will go way down.

13-25% in last year of life, for Medicare.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6610551/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4638261/

Don’t some European countries do this?

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Anonymous wrote:If they truly want to cut down on Medicaid and Medicare spending there is really only one answer: what they called “death panels” during the Obamacare debate. Over 90 percent of the health care spending a person receives occurs in the last 6 months of life. Stop keeping those old people alive so long, costs will go way down.

It’s not living. I pray to God my children pull the plug early.