What will be the next demographic shakeup in electoral politics?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the current crop of young people are going to be more conservative than a lot of people predicted. For a while it seemed like Gen Z was going to be very social justice oriented and progressive. And I do think there’s a little microgeneration of of that. But I think the youngest Gen Z’ers will be more to the right due to certain online messaging being targeted at them and just generally wanting the perceived stability that comes with a more so-called traditional lifestyle. It will be more pronounced among young men, but I think we will see it in women too.

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my 13 yo told me last year ago that "pronouns are gone" and that kids are not woke. they use racial stereotypes freely. boys in particular, but also some girls.

I don’t hear much about the racial stereotypes, but I live in a very diverse area so it would probably be less common. Agreed that pronouns are not popular with this age any more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, Latino men voted for Trump in part because a woman was running. To act like this is a permanent shift is to misunderstand the dynamic.

You have never been around Hispanic men or women if you think the old stereotype of a woman being submissive to a man still holds. During the pandemic a lot shifted when the jobs Hispanic held were shut down and women in fields of daycare, cleaning, and other service providers became the top earners. Hispanic men respect women just fine. That's why they saw how lackluster Kamala Harris is and why they did not vote for her.

I never said hispanic women were submissive. I said hispanic men won't vote for a woman. See how those are different points?

If this were true, there would be no female presidents in Mexico, Central or South America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's dumb that people think there's nobody to take over from Trump. If anybody has ever seen Vance in interviews or during the debate its quite obvious. His Rogan interview was A+, better than Trumps. He connects.

He will easily take over the Trump mantle without the baggage. He holds the base together with even more appeal to centrists who are "embarrassed" by Trump.

Right now the left has no strong contenders. Mayor Petes not it, Bashear is not very impressive in actuality, and Shapiro is dull(not to mention a zionist in the party of anti-semitism). The establishment will probably choose Newsom and we all know they control the
candidate choice.

Newsom 🤮

If the Dem elites choose Newsom, then they deserve to lose for the next several decades.

[Anonymous]

The problem for Dems is that they thought young people and Hispanics were going to be guaranteed voting blocs for them but Hispanics are way more conservative than they were 8 years ago and Gen Z is more conservative than millennials.

Also, there is no way someone like Newsom or Mayor Pete is beating Vance in the Rust Belt or Georgia. Someone like Wes Moore isn’t beating him in these places either.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's dumb that people think there's nobody to take over from Trump. If anybody has ever seen Vance in interviews or during the debate its quite obvious. His Rogan interview was A+, better than Trumps. He connects.

He will easily take over the Trump mantle without the baggage. He holds the base together with even more appeal to centrists who are "embarrassed" by Trump.

Right now the left has no strong contenders. Mayor Petes not it, Bashear is not very impressive in actuality, and Shapiro is dull(not to mention a zionist in the party of anti-semitism). The establishment will probably choose Newsom and we all know they control the
candidate choice.

Newsom 🤮

If the Dem elites choose Newsom, then they deserve to lose for the next several decades.

lol this is how I feel.

Does anyone think that the Dems are crippled by Obama’s popularity? They believe there is some formula to create an Obama. When really he was a phenomenon of his moment.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem for Dems is that they thought young people and Hispanics were going to be guaranteed voting blocs for them but Hispanics are way more conservative than they were 8 years ago and Gen Z is more conservative than millennials.

Also, there is no way someone like Newsom or Mayor Pete is beating Vance in the Rust Belt or Georgia. Someone like Wes Moore isn’t beating him in these places either.

I think Hispanics were always more conservative than popularly understood, and they also believed that their merits were so self-evident that the youth would always be with them.

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Anonymous wrote:The parties have shifted. Dems are now the party of GWB foreign policy mixed with far left stances on social issues. The problem is that the actual D politicians cannot speak out against any of the "progressive" policies no matter how unpopular they are.
Rep Seth Moulton has been attacked mercilessly for coming out against trans athletes in womens sports despite his opinion being that of the majority. There are now calls for his resignation or to primary him. Progressives seem to hate free speech these days which can turnoff the general public. I also dont think the left will help themselves running to echo chambers like bluesky.
Trump is a moderate in most respects with similar policies to those Bill Clinton held with a touch of Ross
Perot populism thrown in and a dash of isolation in.

Moulton’s campaign manager resigned immediately, which goes to a structural problem in the party. If you think your career is at risk because your candidate espoused a position that 75% of Americans agree with, that is a serious problem structurally.

Trans men in women sports is the bill I died on. After a life long Dem I did not vote for the presidency this year. I could not vote for a party that wants me to think a man should be on an woman’s team. They can do co ed sports if they want to compete against men and women.

Okay, but the Democrats don't support this. Name one Democratic official who spoke out on this issue.

Well, who is calling for his resignation and why are people talking about primarying him?

Oh. That's right. Democrats.

Democrats put trans rights ahead of the rights of 50% of the population and put trans concerns ahead of the concerns of 99% of the population

Fake news. Shove your BS propaganda up your bigoted a-hole.

That 1% is like the tiny dog whose only power is to yap loudly. People are annoyed by the yapping but know those who do it are insignificant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the current crop of young people are going to be more conservative than a lot of people predicted. For a while it seemed like Gen Z was going to be very social justice oriented and progressive. And I do think there’s a little microgeneration of of that. But I think the youngest Gen Z’ers will be more to the right due to certain online messaging being targeted at them and just generally wanting the perceived stability that comes with a more so-called traditional lifestyle. It will be more pronounced among young men, but I think we will see it in women too.

+1
my 13 yo told me last year ago that "pronouns are gone" and that kids are not woke. they use racial stereotypes freely. boys in particular, but also some girls.

I don’t hear much about the racial stereotypes, but I live in a very diverse area so it would probably be less common. Agreed that pronouns are not popular with this age any more.

PP here - we are at a very diverse school. boys are extremely straightforward with all sorts of stereotypes (racial, ethnic, gender). wokeness is associated with schoolmarms, teachers and other lame adults. not cool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, Latino men voted for Trump in part because a woman was running. To act like this is a permanent shift is to misunderstand the dynamic.

You have never been around Hispanic men or women if you think the old stereotype of a woman being submissive to a man still holds. During the pandemic a lot shifted when the jobs Hispanic held were shut down and women in fields of daycare, cleaning, and other service providers became the top earners. Hispanic men respect women just fine. That's why they saw how lackluster Kamala Harris is and why they did not vote for her.

I never said hispanic women were submissive. I said hispanic men won't vote for a woman. See how those are different points?

If this were true, there would be no female presidents in Mexico, Central or South America.

I don’t know about this personally, but I have heard that immigrants and their descendants in the US can hold more traditional values than the people actually in the country of origin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the current crop of young people are going to be more conservative than a lot of people predicted. For a while it seemed like Gen Z was going to be very social justice oriented and progressive. And I do think there’s a little microgeneration of of that. But I think the youngest Gen Z’ers will be more to the right due to certain online messaging being targeted at them and just generally wanting the perceived stability that comes with a more so-called traditional lifestyle. It will be more pronounced among young men, but I think we will see it in women too.

+1
my 13 yo told me last year ago that "pronouns are gone" and that kids are not woke. they use racial stereotypes freely. boys in particular, but also some girls.

I don’t hear much about the racial stereotypes, but I live in a very diverse area so it would probably be less common. Agreed that pronouns are not popular with this age any more.

PP here - we are at a very diverse school. boys are extremely straightforward with all sorts of stereotypes (racial, ethnic, gender). wokeness is associated with schoolmarms, teachers and other lame adults. not cool.

DP and I see the same in my middle schooler’s friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the current crop of young people are going to be more conservative than a lot of people predicted. For a while it seemed like Gen Z was going to be very social justice oriented and progressive. And I do think there’s a little microgeneration of of that. But I think the youngest Gen Z’ers will be more to the right due to certain online messaging being targeted at them and just generally wanting the perceived stability that comes with a more so-called traditional lifestyle. It will be more pronounced among young men, but I think we will see it in women too.

+1
my 13 yo told me last year ago that "pronouns are gone" and that kids are not woke. they use racial stereotypes freely. boys in particular, but also some girls.

I don’t hear much about the racial stereotypes, but I live in a very diverse area so it would probably be less common. Agreed that pronouns are not popular with this age any more.

PP here - we are at a very diverse school. boys are extremely straightforward with all sorts of stereotypes (racial, ethnic, gender). wokeness is associated with schoolmarms, teachers and other lame adults. not cool.

I have a hard time believing the stereotyping part is true. Do you hear the boys saying this? I don’t think my 12 year old would dare to in my presence. That seems different to me from being fed up with DEI/SEL/woke-speak.

That said I do hope we’re past the brutal cancellations that happened in 2020. Like the Walls kids who got in trouble for playing Cotton Eyed Joe or the teacher with the cotton ball game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the current crop of young people are going to be more conservative than a lot of people predicted. For a while it seemed like Gen Z was going to be very social justice oriented and progressive. And I do think there’s a little microgeneration of of that. But I think the youngest Gen Z’ers will be more to the right due to certain online messaging being targeted at them and just generally wanting the perceived stability that comes with a more so-called traditional lifestyle. It will be more pronounced among young men, but I think we will see it in women too.

+1
my 13 yo told me last year ago that "pronouns are gone" and that kids are not woke. they use racial stereotypes freely. boys in particular, but also some girls.

I don’t hear much about the racial stereotypes, but I live in a very diverse area so it would probably be less common. Agreed that pronouns are not popular with this age any more.

PP here - we are at a very diverse school. boys are extremely straightforward with all sorts of stereotypes (racial, ethnic, gender). wokeness is associated with schoolmarms, teachers and other lame adults. not cool.

Yep being an a$$hole is cool now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's four years will be make or break for the Republican Party. If his four years end in mass death and chaos like Covid-19, BLM riots, J6 riot, his legacy will be ruined. If it ends smoothly, then the Republicans will likely win in 2028.

I think you have this backwards. The pressure for the next four years is not on Trump.

Everyone already spent four years with Trump. They reelected him because they are more comfortable with that than they are with what Democrats have to offer.

The pressure for the next four years is on Democrats to present an alternative to Trump that people can get behind. So far, the only thing that the Democrats are doing is replacing their octogenarians in leadership with the unreformed progressives that helped to drive them into this ditch. I don’t think they are heading in the right direction.

Can you clarify what “unreformed progressives” you think are currently leading the Democratic Party? There was nothing progressive about either Harris or Walz. The idea that MAGA *isnt* extremist is laughable.

Jamie Raskin is one of these unreformed progressives and giving him a leadership position will absolutely ensure that the party is doomed. His district isn’t representative of America and neither are his politics. Hr doesn’t even know or understand why the party is in the situation it’s in. He’s looking to reboot the 2017 “Resistance” but the problem is that the American people have decided that they want to move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the current crop of young people are going to be more conservative than a lot of people predicted. For a while it seemed like Gen Z was going to be very social justice oriented and progressive. And I do think there’s a little microgeneration of of that. But I think the youngest Gen Z’ers will be more to the right due to certain online messaging being targeted at them and just generally wanting the perceived stability that comes with a more so-called traditional lifestyle. It will be more pronounced among young men, but I think we will see it in women too.

+1
my 13 yo told me last year ago that "pronouns are gone" and that kids are not woke. they use racial stereotypes freely. boys in particular, but also some girls.

I don’t hear much about the racial stereotypes, but I live in a very diverse area so it would probably be less common. Agreed that pronouns are not popular with this age any more.

PP here - we are at a very diverse school. boys are extremely straightforward with all sorts of stereotypes (racial, ethnic, gender). wokeness is associated with schoolmarms, teachers and other lame adults. not cool.

I have a hard time believing the stereotyping part is true. Do you hear the boys saying this? I don’t think my 12 year old would dare to in my presence. That seems different to me from being fed up with DEI/SEL/woke-speak.

That said I do hope we’re past the brutal cancellations that happened in 2020. Like the Walls kids who got in trouble for playing Cotton Eyed Joe or the teacher with the cotton ball game.

It’s now socially acceptable for boys of any race to use the n word.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the current crop of young people are going to be more conservative than a lot of people predicted. For a while it seemed like Gen Z was going to be very social justice oriented and progressive. And I do think there’s a little microgeneration of of that. But I think the youngest Gen Z’ers will be more to the right due to certain online messaging being targeted at them and just generally wanting the perceived stability that comes with a more so-called traditional lifestyle. It will be more pronounced among young men, but I think we will see it in women too.

+1
my 13 yo told me last year ago that "pronouns are gone" and that kids are not woke. they use racial stereotypes freely. boys in particular, but also some girls.

I don’t hear much about the racial stereotypes, but I live in a very diverse area so it would probably be less common. Agreed that pronouns are not popular with this age any more.

PP here - we are at a very diverse school. boys are extremely straightforward with all sorts of stereotypes (racial, ethnic, gender). wokeness is associated with schoolmarms, teachers and other lame adults. not cool.

I have a hard time believing the stereotyping part is true. Do you hear the boys saying this? I don’t think my 12 year old would dare to in my presence. That seems different to me from being fed up with DEI/SEL/woke-speak.

That said I do hope we’re past the brutal cancellations that happened in 2020. Like the Walls kids who got in trouble for playing Cotton Eyed Joe or the teacher with the cotton ball game.

It’s now socially acceptable for boys of any race to use the n word.

Well, using the n word the way I think you’re implying isn’t actually a slur or stereotype. But my kid goes to a majority black school and the last time I asked him, he was absolutely clear on the fact that black boys can call each other the n word but white boys cannot.
The school also has plenty of old-school Black teachers who don’t let any kid use the n word.