Has the Coalition for TJ (or any other groups) considered another lawsuit?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


You’re trolling. Access to banks of previous questions is not the same as “early access to the entrance exam”.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



You don't have to be "affluent" to have test prep.

And if they adopt the PSAT as their entrance exam, test prep is available from Khan academy.

Just give every 8th grader the PSAT and use that.


Khan Academy is a great resource, it doesn’t compare to live instruction.

PSAT would be more of the same. SOLs would be more fair.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


How about you link a news story.

A facebook post by a high school sophomore is not a news story.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


You’re trolling. Access to banks of previous questions is not the same as “early access to the entrance exam”.


And even that claim is based on a social media post by a high school student who wanted to virtue signal by "recognizing their privilege"
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



You don't have to be "affluent" to have test prep.

And if they adopt the PSAT as their entrance exam, test prep is available from Khan academy.

Just give every 8th grader the PSAT and use that.


Khan Academy is a great resource, it doesn’t compare to live instruction.

PSAT would be more of the same. SOLs would be more fair.


At least there is khan academy for PSAT. What free resource is there for SOLs? You think SOL's are not preppable?

I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


You’re trolling. Access to banks of previous questions is not the same as “early access to the entrance exam”.


Both amount to the same thing: getting access to the test questions before the test.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



You don't have to be "affluent" to have test prep.

And if they adopt the PSAT as their entrance exam, test prep is available from Khan academy.

Just give every 8th grader the PSAT and use that.


Khan Academy is a great resource, it doesn’t compare to live instruction.

PSAT would be more of the same. SOLs would be more fair.


At least there is khan academy for PSAT. What free resource is there for SOLs? You think SOL's are not preppable?

I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.


There is a reason people pay good money for these classes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



You don't have to be "affluent" to have test prep.

And if they adopt the PSAT as their entrance exam, test prep is available from Khan academy.

Just give every 8th grader the PSAT and use that.


Khan Academy is a great resource, it doesn’t compare to live instruction.

PSAT would be more of the same. SOLs would be more fair.


At least there is khan academy for PSAT. What free resource is there for SOLs? You think SOL's are not preppable?

I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.


There is a reason people pay good money for these classes.


Yes, but you can also pay good money for SOL tutoring and frankly there are no free resources for that like there is for the PSAT.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


How about you link a news story.

A facebook post by a high school sophomore is not a news story.


That's been posted here dozens of times but you just ignore it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



You don't have to be "affluent" to have test prep.

And if they adopt the PSAT as their entrance exam, test prep is available from Khan academy.

Just give every 8th grader the PSAT and use that.


Khan Academy is a great resource, it doesn’t compare to live instruction.

PSAT would be more of the same. SOLs would be more fair.


At least there is khan academy for PSAT. What free resource is there for SOLs? You think SOL's are not preppable?

I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.I taught kaplan and princeton review for years. The test taking strategies are probably about 6-12 hours at most. The rest of it is taking practice tests and being disciplined about reviewing the tests and answers. A disciplined kid with khan academy will do better than a kid that has to have their hand held through Kaplan.


There is a reason people pay good money for these classes.


Yes, but you can also pay good money for SOL tutoring and frankly there are no free resources for that like there is for the PSAT.


If these prep places didn't provide real value people wouldn't invest thousands into it. They do this because they provide a significant advantage over these fee resouces.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


You’re trolling. Access to banks of previous questions is not the same as “early access to the entrance exam”.


Both amount to the same thing: getting access to the test questions before the test.


#fakenews from our friend #BackDoorKaren
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


How about you link a news story.

A facebook post by a high school sophomore is not a news story.


That's been posted here dozens of times but you just ignore it.


No. It hasn't. It has always been a link to an indian girl's social media account where she virtue signals by confessing her privilege.

You are clearly a false flag trying to make people who support the current method (perhaps with some improvements) seem like bad faith pathological liars and idiots.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


How about you link a news story.

A facebook post by a high school sophomore is not a news story.


All of that has been posted here many many times. Just use search.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that adding a FARMS bonus to the MS allotment is too much weighting toward underprivileged. I would also like to see them keep the latter and do away with or lessen the former.


I don't know if the system is already so weighted in favor of wealth and privilege that it seems necessary. Up until recently people even bought early access to the entrance test for years to game the process.


I am the poster at 14:04 and I believe in FARM preferences and holistic admissions and I also believe you are full of shit. I think you are a false flag trying to make anyone that supports the current admissions process sound like a dishonest idiot


+1

Kids from affluent families had access to previous test questions via test prep classes. They didn’t have “early access to the entrance test”. Although I do vaguely remember something that happening for CogAT years ago.



They did. The prep centers had compiled question banks by debriefing students from prior years giving their customers access to many of the test questions. This has been covered here many times. There are many links and news stories provided. Please use the search function.


How about you link a news story.

A facebook post by a high school sophomore is not a news story.


That's been posted here dozens of times but you just ignore it.


No. It hasn't. It has always been a link to an indian girl's social media account where she virtue signals by confessing her privilege.

You are clearly a false flag trying to make people who support the current method (perhaps with some improvements) seem like bad faith pathological liars and idiots.


I know several posted in a Facebook group that the questions were the same. There was also a couple local news sources and the school paper. It's all been covered to death. Not sure how you could've missed it.
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