Hurricane Milton

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I never get is that the hurricane timing infallibly moves to half a day, if not a day later than expected. It's systematic with every storm. Now it's moved from Wednesday 8 am to Thursday 2 am. Maybe it's to err on the side of caution so people get prepared, but my county cancelled school a day too early.


Evacuation is not an instantaneous process. Closing a day early ia better than closing just in time. If you're interested in preventing loss of life.


Yes, there are people who are not prepared 2-3 days in advance to evacuate. So, canceling school a day early gives people extra time to pack and prepare and get their family out of the area. As the PP mentioned, the process is not instantaneous. The roadway system is not designed for an entire area to vacate at once. So, if you close school early, some families will leave earlier and will make it that much easier for the people who are leaving later or caught in the jam by reducing the amount of backup that it causing the jam. In Irma in 2017, it took 12+ hours for some of the roads to clear and some people only barely made it out before the storm hit their areas.

As for the timing, they give the average timing based on meteorologic data. But storms speed up and slow down all the time. They try to err on the cautious side. What do you think would be the response if they tried to be more accurate and predicted a later time, but then the storm sped up and many people were caught before they could evacuate and more people died? When you are dealing with a natural event that is very likely to cost human life, you err on the side that will protect as many lives as possible. If you save even one extra life by being cautious, then it's worth it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for the people of FL. Have they even recovered from the last hurricane yet? The news hasn't covered much at all. I have no idea if people are still out of power.


I do and I don't. These people choose to live in a state with a massive risk for yearly catastrophic weather. They don't pay a state income tax and my federal tax dollars go to bail them out again and again. There are 49 other nice states to live in. I'm so sick of the entitlement. People want to talk about government handouts? How much does rebuilding Florida three times a year cost us?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for the people of FL. Have they even recovered from the last hurricane yet? The news hasn't covered much at all. I have no idea if people are still out of power.


I do and I don't. These people choose to live in a state with a massive risk for yearly catastrophic weather. They don't pay a state income tax and my federal tax dollars go to bail them out again and again. There are 49 other nice states to live in. I'm so sick of the entitlement. People want to talk about government handouts? How much does rebuilding Florida three times a year cost us?

I think that certain vulnerable areas, especially along the coast, need to be designated as future national parks. When a disaster hits and homes are completely destroyed, the people living there get automatically bought out rather than rebuilding the home. This would be similar to totaling a car when the repair costs more than the car value. Provide more than enough so they can move somewhere else. I don’t think we need to be subsidizing people’s ocean front views anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for the people of FL. Have they even recovered from the last hurricane yet? The news hasn't covered much at all. I have no idea if people are still out of power.


I do and I don't. These people choose to live in a state with a massive risk for yearly catastrophic weather. They don't pay a state income tax and my federal tax dollars go to bail them out again and again. There are 49 other nice states to live in. I'm so sick of the entitlement. People want to talk about government handouts? How much does rebuilding Florida three times a year cost us?

I think that certain vulnerable areas, especially along the coast, need to be designated as future national parks. When a disaster hits and homes are completely destroyed, the people living there get automatically bought out rather than rebuilding the home. This would be similar to totaling a car when the repair costs more than the car value. Provide more than enough so they can move somewhere else. I don’t think we need to be subsidizing people’s ocean front views anymore.



That’s a great idea. They could make miles of national park, and then run a tram line 5 miles inland, and just build village of hotels there, and run the tram every 15 minutes for beach access
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for the people of FL. Have they even recovered from the last hurricane yet? The news hasn't covered much at all. I have no idea if people are still out of power.


I do and I don't. These people choose to live in a state with a massive risk for yearly catastrophic weather. They don't pay a state income tax and my federal tax dollars go to bail them out again and again. There are 49 other nice states to live in. I'm so sick of the entitlement. People want to talk about government handouts? How much does rebuilding Florida three times a year cost us?


WTF?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for the people of FL. Have they even recovered from the last hurricane yet? The news hasn't covered much at all. I have no idea if people are still out of power.


I do and I don't. These people choose to live in a state with a massive risk for yearly catastrophic weather. They don't pay a state income tax and my federal tax dollars go to bail them out again and again. There are 49 other nice states to live in. I'm so sick of the entitlement. People want to talk about government handouts? How much does rebuilding Florida three times a year cost us?


None of the 49 other states ever got federal tax dollars for a weather event?

I do agree that people should not be living directly on the coast-I say this as someone who lives several miles inland.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for the people of FL. Have they even recovered from the last hurricane yet? The news hasn't covered much at all. I have no idea if people are still out of power.


Welcome back from your coma! This has been all over the news in the past few weeks. Just so you don't feel out of the loop, there was flooding in NC too.
Anonymous



OP here.

17 confirmed tornadoes, including some very large ones, for an unverified current total of 51. Here is the St Lucie one:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1844081322190618665
Anonymous

OP again.


Milton's IKE has increased to 78 TJ.


Prior to landfall, here are the IKE measures of other hurricanes and storms:

Hurricane Charley 2004 was 12 TJ.

Hurricane Helene 2024 was 100 TJ.

Hurricane Katrina 2005 was 120 TJ.

Superstorm Sandy 2012 was 330 TJ.


As a reminder, Integrated Kinetic Energy, or IKE is the measure of the destructive potential of a hurricane or storm.
Anonymous
^ TJ is terrajoules unit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


OP here.

17 confirmed tornadoes, including some very large ones, for an unverified current total of 51. Here is the St Lucie one:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1844081322190618665


Glenn‘s publicity team is top notch
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
OP again.


Milton's IKE has increased to 78 TJ.


Prior to landfall, here are the IKE measures of other hurricanes and storms:

Hurricane Charley 2004 was 12 TJ.

Hurricane Helene 2024 was 100 TJ.

Hurricane Katrina 2005 was 120 TJ.

Superstorm Sandy 2012 was 330 TJ.


As a reminder, Integrated Kinetic Energy, or IKE is the measure of the destructive potential of a hurricane or storm.


Why do you keep posting these details? You sound like AI.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
OP again.


Milton's IKE has increased to 78 TJ.


Prior to landfall, here are the IKE measures of other hurricanes and storms:

Hurricane Charley 2004 was 12 TJ.

Hurricane Helene 2024 was 100 TJ.

Hurricane Katrina 2005 was 120 TJ.

Superstorm Sandy 2012 was 330 TJ.


As a reminder, Integrated Kinetic Energy, or IKE is the measure of the destructive potential of a hurricane or storm.



So does this mean that this storm isn't as bad as they were predicting?
Anonymous
I'm sure many are thanking their stars that Milton appears to be heading for landfall south of Tampa. Sad for people farther south, but should lessen the sheer extent of destruction that could have been horrifically possible with the original trajectory.

This is going to be awful nonetheless for so so many people.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for the people of FL. Have they even recovered from the last hurricane yet? The news hasn't covered much at all. I have no idea if people are still out of power.


I do and I don't. These people choose to live in a state with a massive risk for yearly catastrophic weather. They don't pay a state income tax and my federal tax dollars go to bail them out again and again. There are 49 other nice states to live in. I'm so sick of the entitlement. People want to talk about government handouts? How much does rebuilding Florida three times a year cost us?

I think that certain vulnerable areas, especially along the coast, need to be designated as future national parks. When a disaster hits and homes are completely destroyed, the people living there get automatically bought out rather than rebuilding the home. This would be similar to totaling a car when the repair costs more than the car value. Provide more than enough so they can move somewhere else. I don’t think we need to be subsidizing people’s ocean front views anymore.


I said the same thing today - turn all the barrier islands into part of the National Parks.

Offer everyone a one time payout. If you choose to stay, there will be no federal funds used to repair homes or structures (either directly or through subsidies). If your home is washed away, you will not be allowed to rebuild.
post reply Forum Index » Environment, Weather, and Green Living
Message Quick Reply
Go to: