Yale sees DECREASE in Asian strudents from 30% to 24%; White students icnrease from 42% to 46%

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand what the problem is. I get that elite universities don't have to look like the racial makeup of the US. But 24 percent is still more than 300 percent the 7 percent of the US that is Asian. MIT has issues going the other way, where only 5 percent of their class is black, even though blacks make up close to 13 percent of the US population. And every selective school is way underrepresented by Hispanics, who are presently 19 percent of the population.

People can yammer about test scores, which are important, but private universities remain free to construct classes as they see fit provided there is no overt discrimination against protected classes. And every elite private school wants a broad array of students that can handle the coursework and contribute to the community. It's only been one year since the SC decision so things are going to feel a little chaotic. But no group is owed anything and the universities are doing their best to make sense of the new realities. I'm sure no one is more surprised by the decrease in Asian students to Yale than the Yale administrators themselves.

Because people want to boost their chances at an elite college. It’s really that simple, and black students are the easiest target.

Nobody is targetting black students. Asians are not asking for any favors or handouts or pity. They just don't want to be discriminated against.

They went after Affirmative Action instead of legacy admits with a racist lawyer handling the case. Pretty appalling.

Bingo.

And didn't touch ALDC or water polo recruited athletes either. Hmm...wonder why.

Legacy preferences are not unconstitutional, so how do you propose people should do that?

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Anonymous wrote:Brown saw an increase in Asian students by 14%. Every other group fell with black students falling 40%

Can we provide links like the OP did so everyone doesn't have to search for it in google

https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2024/09/at-brown-university-black-freshman-enrollment-drops-40

As I mentioned in the other thread, Brown's Black population has nearly always been in single digits. 15% is an anomaly. There was a post 2020 surge at top schools, but 2028 numbers are basically what they've always been at Ivies or slightly higher.

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Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

This. I suspect the Asian kids self identified as white so as not to be discriminated against.

That’s our plan. Why invoke discrimination if you have the option not to? Our kids even have light brown hair and green eyes. Why would I want their 1/2 Asian heritage to hurt them, if it doesn’t have to?

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Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

This. I suspect the Asian kids self identified as white so as not to be discriminated against.

That’s our plan. Why invoke discrimination if you have the option not to? Our kids even have light brown hair and green eyes. Why would I want their 1/2 Asian heritage to hurt them, if it doesn’t have to?

It's sad that some races are celebrated and others are diminished in this way.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown saw an increase in Asian students by 14%. Every other group fell with black students falling 40%

Can we provide links like the OP did so everyone doesn't have to search for it in google

https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2024/09/at-brown-university-black-freshman-enrollment-drops-40

As I mentioned in the other thread, Brown's Black population has nearly always been in single digits. 15% is an anomaly. There was a post 2020 surge at top schools, but 2028 numbers are basically what they've always been at Ivies or slightly higher.

we must count the blacks! Can't be too many! Only a small number would be legitimately qualified, so if any more than a small number get in, something is fishy...

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You do realize that they simply know based on your surname, right? They don’t really need to see the race box.

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize that they simply know based on your surname, right? They don’t really need to see the race box.

Gotta be careful with the names. Wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of Stagger Lee.

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Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

This. I suspect the Asian kids self identified as white so as not to be discriminated against.

That’s our plan. Why invoke discrimination if you have the option not to? Our kids even have light brown hair and green eyes. Why would I want their 1/2 Asian heritage to hurt them, if it doesn’t have to?

It's sad that some races are celebrated and others are diminished in this way.

Yes it is bad black people are only seen as seat stealers, taking away spots from harder working smarter people who have taken better advantage of the American dream.

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Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

This. I suspect the Asian kids self identified as white so as not to be discriminated against.

That’s our plan. Why invoke discrimination if you have the option not to? Our kids even have light brown hair and green eyes. Why would I want their 1/2 Asian heritage to hurt them, if it doesn’t have to?

It's sad that some races are celebrated and others are diminished in this way.

Yes it is bad black people are only seen as seat stealers, taking away spots from harder working smarter people who have taken better advantage of the American dream.

No. Going forward there are going to be differences that reflect both regional demographics and popular majors. I just looked at Rice University. Hispanic students represent 17 percent of all students, which is down from 18 percent last year. That is still significantly higher than most elite universities. Because it reflects Texas, which is where a sizable percentage of Rice students come from. Black students declined to 6 percent from 8 percent, which is not great. But Rice suffers from some of the same problems that MIT has. It's largely known for STEM, and there just aren't a high percentage of high-stats black students pursuing STEM majors. Caucasians are 26 percent at Rice this year, which is up from 24 percent last year. And Asian Americans are 29 percent this year, a trifle down from 30 percent last year.

No doubt if Rice was a humanities based school in Atlanta, the numbers would look completely different. Each school has a different reality that attracts a different cross-section of applicants. A SLAC in Minnesota is going to look different than a STEM school in Cambridge which is going to look different than an Ivy League school in Hanover, NH, which is going to look different than a state flagship in Berkeley, CA. No one is stealing seats. Schools are going to look different because this isn't North Korea - we are a broad, diverse country with a multitude of regions and a huge variety of students with different interests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

This. I suspect the Asian kids self identified as white so as not to be discriminated against.

That’s our plan. Why invoke discrimination if you have the option not to? Our kids even have light brown hair and green eyes. Why would I want their 1/2 Asian heritage to hurt them, if it doesn’t have to?

It's sad that some races are celebrated and others are diminished in this way.

Yes it is bad black people are only seen as seat stealers, taking away spots from harder working smarter people who have taken better advantage of the American dream.

No. Going forward there are going to be differences that reflect both regional demographics and popular majors. I just looked at Rice University. Hispanic students represent 17 percent of all students, which is down from 18 percent last year. That is still significantly higher than most elite universities. Because it reflects Texas, which is where a sizable percentage of Rice students come from. Black students declined to 6 percent from 8 percent, which is not great. But Rice suffers from some of the same problems that MIT has. It's largely known for STEM, and there just aren't a high percentage of high-stats black students pursuing STEM majors. Caucasians are 26 percent at Rice this year, which is up from 24 percent last year. And Asian Americans are 29 percent this year, a trifle down from 30 percent last year.

No doubt if Rice was a humanities based school in Atlanta, the numbers would look completely different. Each school has a different reality that attracts a different cross-section of applicants. A SLAC in Minnesota is going to look different than a STEM school in Cambridge which is going to look different than an Ivy League school in Hanover, NH, which is going to look different than a state flagship in Berkeley, CA. No one is stealing seats. Schools are going to look different because this isn't North Korea - we are a broad, diverse country with a multitude of regions and a huge variety of students with different interests.

Actually is is best to not talk about black people and how they live their lives. I don't see the point.

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Seriously so what

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Anonymous wrote:Brown saw an increase in Asian students by 14%. Every other group fell with black students falling 40%

Can we provide links like the OP did so everyone doesn't have to search for it in google

https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2024/09/at-brown-university-black-freshman-enrollment-drops-40

As I mentioned in the other thread, Brown's Black population has nearly always been in single digits. 15% is an anomaly. There was a post 2020 surge at top schools, but 2028 numbers are basically what they've always been at Ivies or slightly higher.

Is the point you are trying to make that the percentages have not really changed, and that Brown may therefore not be in compliance with the law?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown saw an increase in Asian students by 14%. Every other group fell with black students falling 40%

Can we provide links like the OP did so everyone doesn't have to search for it in google

https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2024/09/at-brown-university-black-freshman-enrollment-drops-40

As I mentioned in the other thread, Brown's Black population has nearly always been in single digits. 15% is an anomaly. There was a post 2020 surge at top schools, but 2028 numbers are basically what they've always been at Ivies or slightly higher.

Is the point you are trying to make that the percentages have not really changed, and that Brown may therefore not be in compliance with the law?

That is the point of all the college demographic threads. They need to WATCH THE BLACKS! to make sure not too many got into top schools, if too many, in their mind, that means rules were broken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

This. I suspect the Asian kids self identified as white so as not to be discriminated against.

That’s our plan. Why invoke discrimination if you have the option not to? Our kids even have light brown hair and green eyes. Why would I want their 1/2 Asian heritage to hurt them, if it doesn’t have to?

It's sad that some races are celebrated and others are diminished in this way.

Yes it is bad black people are only seen as seat stealers, taking away spots from harder working smarter people who have taken better advantage of the American dream.

No. Going forward there are going to be differences that reflect both regional demographics and popular majors. I just looked at Rice University. Hispanic students represent 17 percent of all students, which is down from 18 percent last year. That is still significantly higher than most elite universities. Because it reflects Texas, which is where a sizable percentage of Rice students come from. Black students declined to 6 percent from 8 percent, which is not great. But Rice suffers from some of the same problems that MIT has. It's largely known for STEM, and there just aren't a high percentage of high-stats black students pursuing STEM majors. Caucasians are 26 percent at Rice this year, which is up from 24 percent last year. And Asian Americans are 29 percent this year, a trifle down from 30 percent last year.

No doubt if Rice was a humanities based school in Atlanta, the numbers would look completely different. Each school has a different reality that attracts a different cross-section of applicants. A SLAC in Minnesota is going to look different than a STEM school in Cambridge which is going to look different than an Ivy League school in Hanover, NH, which is going to look different than a state flagship in Berkeley, CA. No one is stealing seats. Schools are going to look different because this isn't North Korea - we are a broad, diverse country with a multitude of regions and a huge variety of students with different interests.

It's too early to say what will happen in the future but we absolutely know what happened in the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown saw an increase in Asian students by 14%. Every other group fell with black students falling 40%

Can we provide links like the OP did so everyone doesn't have to search for it in google

https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2024/09/at-brown-university-black-freshman-enrollment-drops-40

As I mentioned in the other thread, Brown's Black population has nearly always been in single digits. 15% is an anomaly. There was a post 2020 surge at top schools, but 2028 numbers are basically what they've always been at Ivies or slightly higher.

Is the point you are trying to make that the percentages have not really changed, and that Brown may therefore not be in compliance with the law?

That is the point of all the college demographic threads. They need to WATCH THE BLACKS! to make sure not too many got into top schools, if too many, in their mind, that means rules were broken.

Not just blacks. Hispanics too.