Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

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Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Which lobbyists were pushing for both MM in Arlington AND the PW data center?

MM was never about “affordable housing”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).

The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.

No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.

Baseless hysteria. There just aren’t that many permits per year.

Young people don’t want group homes away from the action. Your daughters are safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think that many people care about this issue because the turnout for the democratic primary was pitiful, even though anti-MM candidates were running. I have to believe most people don't care. What could be easier than mailing in an absentee ballot???

Again, the developers have stacked the deck with all these renters voting for their “chance at a house”.

Renters don’t turn out for county board primaries. If MM was so unpopular, Roy should’ve been a slam dunk.

Having an issue as derisive as MM decided by the county board primary elections is the height of disfunction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).

The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.

No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.

IKR! As Paul Revere said, "Ganglandia is coming! Ganglandia is coming!"

Or something...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Which lobbyists were pushing for both MM in Arlington AND the PW data center?

MM was never about “affordable housing”.

Yes it was about "affordable housing" they just changed the words used to make it sound more appealing. Yes, the concoction industry, and real estate industry are involved in all of these projects. The large publicly traded construction companies do residential and commercial. They also use the same group of aggressive land use lawyers and consultations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).

The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.

No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.

Baseless hysteria. There just aren’t that many permits per year.

Young people don’t want group homes away from the action. Your daughters are safe.

Are you kidding, if for the same rent they can get a townhouse with a yard to host BBQ and watch parties until all hours for the same price as a Clarndon apartment, that is only a 5 min uber from the "action"?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).

The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.

No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.

Baseless hysteria. There just aren’t that many permits per year.

Young people don’t want group homes away from the action. Your daughters are safe.

Are you kidding, if for the same rent they can get a townhouse with a yard to host BBQ and watch parties until all hours for the same price as a Clarndon apartment, that is only a 5 min uber from the "action"?

They can already rent group homes in all those areas. I know many people who lived in group homes in 22207 all the way to Falls Church. This already exists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Which lobbyists were pushing for both MM in Arlington AND the PW data center?

MM was never about “affordable housing”.

Yes it was about "affordable housing" they just changed the words used to make it sound more appealing. Yes, the concoction industry, and real estate industry are involved in all of these projects. The large publicly traded construction companies do residential and commercial. They also use the same group of aggressive land use lawyers and consultations.

It was never about “affordable housing”. You do know that means something specific, right? It was about increasing density and opening up more options that aren’t McMansions.

Which large publicly-traded companies were lobbying for Arlington MM?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).

The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.

No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.

Baseless hysteria. There just aren’t that many permits per year.

Young people don’t want group homes away from the action. Your daughters are safe.

Are you kidding, if for the same rent they can get a townhouse with a yard to host BBQ and watch parties until all hours for the same price as a Clarndon apartment, that is only a 5 min uber from the "action"?

Yes. You clearly didn’t live here in your 20s.

A few people had group homes farther out but most tried to be walking distance.

I don’t get the obsession with group homes. That isn’t the target market here.

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Anonymous wrote:There are going to be expensive townhomes by any standard, and brand new. I think you will find young couples and young families looking to be in a nice quiet neighborhood with good schools. Bros aren’t interested in Donaldson Run and it’s a pretty lame location for a party house.

Here’s how it goes down, the brand new townhouse is bought by a young couple with a baby. Within four years, they’ve outgrown it and realize that living with three stories, or four stories and no yard will not work with their preschooler and the second baby.

They will then decide it is a great investment and decide to rent it out for the next 20 years, which point it will become a tenant house and will very very soon become a group house, it only takes one instance to become a direct group house, and then the individual members move in and out, and it never dies like a cancer.

Most people buying a townhouse in that price point can't afford to hold the townhouse as a rental after just 4 years and then also buy a SFH. You're going to give yourself an ulcer with these crazy scenarios.

If it were me, I would be concerned about the plexes being rentals with high turnover. That I get. But consider yourself lucky if your neighborhood gets a few luxury townhomes.

We lived in a townhouse rental, this is exactly how it goes down. What do you mean can’t afford?! The rent covers a huge part of the cost.

You rented a townhouse in Arlington but you don't want other people to have that same opportunity?

[Anonymous]

"Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind."

Worried about those new $1.5M townhouses coming to your street? You're free to leave Arlington at any time. I'm sure McLean will welcome you.

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Anonymous wrote:"Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind."

Worried about those new $1.5M townhouses coming to your street? You're free to leave Arlington at any time. I'm sure McLean will welcome you.

These people are wild. They are selling new townhouses in Clarendon for over 1.6M. The townhouses in 22207 will be every bit of 1.5M. People should hope this could SAVE some of the underenrolled schools up there (though I doubt enough will get built to meaningfully increase enrollment in that part of the county).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are going to be expensive townhomes by any standard, and brand new. I think you will find young couples and young families looking to be in a nice quiet neighborhood with good schools. Bros aren’t interested in Donaldson Run and it’s a pretty lame location for a party house.

Here’s how it goes down, the brand new townhouse is bought by a young couple with a baby. Within four years, they’ve outgrown it and realize that living with three stories, or four stories and no yard will not work with their preschooler and the second baby.

They will then decide it is a great investment and decide to rent it out for the next 20 years, which point it will become a tenant house and will very very soon become a group house, it only takes one instance to become a direct group house, and then the individual members move in and out, and it never dies like a cancer.

Most people buying a townhouse in that price point can't afford to hold the townhouse as a rental after just 4 years and then also buy a SFH. You're going to give yourself an ulcer with these crazy scenarios.

If it were me, I would be concerned about the plexes being rentals with high turnover. That I get. But consider yourself lucky if your neighborhood gets a few luxury townhomes.

We lived in a townhouse rental, this is exactly how it goes down. What do you mean can’t afford?! The rent covers a huge part of the cost.

You rented a townhouse in Arlington but you don't want other people to have that same opportunity?

My townhouse was with 3/10 mile from metro. It was part of the smart growth developments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).

The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.

No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.

Baseless hysteria. There just aren’t that many permits per year.

Young people don’t want group homes away from the action. Your daughters are safe.

Are you kidding, if for the same rent they can get a townhouse with a yard to host BBQ and watch parties until all hours for the same price as a Clarndon apartment, that is only a 5 min uber from the "action"?

Yes. You clearly didn’t live here in your 20s.

A few people had group homes farther out but most tried to be walking distance.

I don’t get the obsession with group homes. That isn’t the target market here.

Are you in your 20s? Because they Uber everywhere now.

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Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.

You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.

Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).

The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.

No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.

Baseless hysteria. There just aren’t that many permits per year.

Young people don’t want group homes away from the action. Your daughters are safe.

Are you kidding, if for the same rent they can get a townhouse with a yard to host BBQ and watch parties until all hours for the same price as a Clarndon apartment, that is only a 5 min uber from the "action"?

Yes. You clearly didn’t live here in your 20s.

A few people had group homes farther out but most tried to be walking distance.

I don’t get the obsession with group homes. That isn’t the target market here.

Are you in your 20s? Because they Uber everywhere now.

And we cabbed everywhere that wasn't right in walking distance.

Don't worry. The bros don't want to live out in BFE.