Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

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Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? OP how do you know all this?

PS - 26 is perfectly acceptable ACT score for many colleges

My child got lower and went T30 because of sports. People hate athletes.

People “hate” athletes because many would have absolutely no chance getting accepted to highly selective schools on their academic achievements, while our kids excel beyond belief and acceptance (not to mention scholarships) to these same highly selective schools are a lottery. My kid excels both in a niche sport, musical instrument AND academics.

you want a gold star, d-bag?

Ehhh, everybody would prefer having a kid who can perform surgery over a kid that can kick a ball far. No need to be butt hurt your kid falls into the latter.

lol. PP thinks med schools are full of people that never played a sport or something.

Able to “kick a ball far” and able to become a surgeon are not anywhere near mutually exclusive.

LOL, indeed. Tell your kid to enjoy soccer and then schlepping pharma to my cardiologist son.

LOL, indeed. The college lax bros now finance bros don’t even bother managing your cardio son’s savings as it falls below the threshold of real wealth.

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Anonymous wrote:Both of my DD's sports (softball, gymnastics) have a few kids every year who get preferential admissions at ivies and full FA because they're under the parent income threshold. I think that parents misunderstand the process if they've spent a lot of time around kids who are getting actual full ride athletic scholarships and truly believe their kids are getting a "full athletic scholarship." And then they broadcast it on instagram.

I don't argue because people who don't understand the difference between athletic scholarships and financial aid are probably not going to be receptive to whatever corrections I'd like to suggest.

Gymnastics at an Ivy?
What makes you believe that they got preferential sports admission?

Ivy schools offer every D1 sport (including gymnastics) except for Women's Beach Volleyball. They also recruit for non-D1 sports like squash, fencing, sailing and some others.

It's no secret that recruited athletes get preferential treatment and it differs by sport. Football players can have lower average stats than likely the gymnastics team.

A fencer recruited by Princeton was told point blank just make sure you get a 1450+ on the SAT. Again, that's for fencing. I bet a football player is told it is a no-brainer if you are 1300+, but they also take kids in the 1200s. Yale lax coach also confirmed stats like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

D3 can't give sports scholarships, but I knew a ton of football players at my D3 school who were dumber than dirt and somehow still had "academic merit" scholarships.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

D3 can't give sports scholarships, but I knew a ton of football players at my D3 school who were dumber than dirt and somehow still had "academic merit" scholarships.

Literally everyone gets boatloads of merit scholarships at non-selective private colleges. The sticker price is fake. It’s like how everything at TJ Maxx appears to be 75% off suggested retail price.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both of my DD's sports (softball, gymnastics) have a few kids every year who get preferential admissions at ivies and full FA because they're under the parent income threshold. I think that parents misunderstand the process if they've spent a lot of time around kids who are getting actual full ride athletic scholarships and truly believe their kids are getting a "full athletic scholarship." And then they broadcast it on instagram.

I don't argue because people who don't understand the difference between athletic scholarships and financial aid are probably not going to be receptive to whatever corrections I'd like to suggest.

Gymnastics at an Ivy?
What makes you believe that they got preferential sports admission?

Gymnastics is only at Cornell, Brown, Yale and Penn, but yes, gymnastics at an ivy.

I know because my friend coaches an ivy program (not gymnastics). You know because they post on instagram in the spring of junior year or summer/fall of senior year with very specific language which is similar to a verbal commit but says something similar to "I'm so excited to start the year by announcing my verbal commitment to the University of Pennsylvania and their admission process."

Each admissions office works with the school's Athletic Department to determine how many preferential admissions slots each coach gets each year. It is not set in stone. And to be clear, many female athletes (especially in sports like gymnastics) have the stats and accomplishments that would allow them to get in via the normal admissions process. Plenty of athletes on the teams are not preferred admits because roster size exceeds preferred admit #s by a large amount. The rest of the team applies through the regular early decision process with a coach's guidance, and some are essentially walk-ons who have had limited contact with a coach until after they're accepted. I don't have the same connections to men's ivy sports and can't comment on that side of things. I do know that the slots are not fungible and so if an athlete with preferred admission chooses another school in November or something, the coach loses that preferred admit slot for the year and sometimes has one or more slots taken away the next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? OP how do you know all this?

PS - 26 is perfectly acceptable ACT score for many colleges

My child got lower and went T30 because of sports. People hate athletes.

People “hate” athletes because many would have absolutely no chance getting accepted to highly selective schools on their academic achievements, while our kids excel beyond belief and acceptance (not to mention scholarships) to these same highly selective schools are a lottery. My kid excels both in a niche sport, musical instrument AND academics.

you want a gold star, d-bag?

Ehhh, everybody would prefer having a kid who can perform surgery over a kid that can kick a ball far. No need to be butt hurt your kid falls into the latter.

lol. PP thinks med schools are full of people that never played a sport or something.

Able to “kick a ball far” and able to become a surgeon are not anywhere near mutually exclusive.

LOL, indeed. Tell your kid to enjoy soccer and then schlepping pharma to my cardiologist son.

I'm sorry that your child was too stupid to be able to handle an undergraduate premed course load and also play a sport.

It will be ironic if your cardiologist son dies of a heart attack because they are so busy trying to keep up with the academics that can't take care of their physical health.

Like I said. You are butt hurt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

D3 can't give sports scholarships, but I knew a ton of football players at my D3 school who were dumber than dirt and somehow still had "academic merit" scholarships.

Literally everyone gets boatloads of merit scholarships at non-selective private colleges. The sticker price is fake. It’s like how everything at TJ Maxx appears to be 75% off suggested retail price.

+1. My DD was offered admission to Washington College in Chestertown. Full freight is $55,000. They gave her $35,000 in merit aid and then a 'presidential scholarship' for an additional $3000 per year. That brought it down to $17,000 which is basically on par with her others schools (UVA/ VT/UMD)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

If a coach gets the student merit aid it’s essentially a sports scholarship.

Sure they don’t call it that. Loophole.

+1

My kid is not the best at their sport, but they got merit aid at a D3 school. College there would have cost us $12K a year for room and board.

The fact they wanted to play their sport was probably a plus for the school and the good GPA helped. While D3 schools can't give athletic scholarships, they can give merit aid to athletes and hope they play their sport in college.

Hopefully, this young person you mention can find their strengths at this school. They may have the chance to become a big fish in a small pond and end up on a path that makes them happy. I hope so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

I have exactly zero delusion that anything I do for DC's sport interests is going to lead to a college scholarship. And yes, there is money and time involved. But DC loves it and is maintaining good physical and mental health while learning firsthand the relationship between hard work and skill development. I'm lucky to be able to invest in this as I have, and I never lose sight of that. But college? Not why we do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

These sports parents never stop lying. And I wouldn’t be surprised if all the scammers in the travel sports apparatus post here too to keep up their grifting. None of these mediocre athletes are going to D3 schools for free. Stop lying!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.