NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

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Anonymous wrote:They are coming to purge Catholics who won’t bow down to hard right doctrine. He calls people who use IVF and contraception “disordered”

It’s happening folks. They are coming for disloyal Catholics next:

Name your favorite commencement speaker, OP.

DP Conan O’Brien

Team Coco all the way.

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Anonymous wrote:He was speaking to a certain audience. Why do others, not part of that audience, care? There can be many different viewpoints.

Because he is a barometer of sorts. You know we’re all not a bunch of mindless heathens, right? We do read things like Reuters and The Economist and learn about trends. There is a big resurgence of strict Christianity or Christian nationalism in response to the rapid social change that’s taking place.

So people not part of that audience care because it helps us gauge what you all are thinking. What else are you going to decry and try to restrict? What other rights are we potentially going to lose because of your religious ideology and influence. Do you understand that? We want to know what we might be facing. And that bearded dipsht is a thermometer.

Ok - so how do you feel about the strict Muslim community and all of the things they forbid/restrict? You do know they hate the LGBTQ community, and don’t even start with gay marriage. They consider women second-class citizens too. You ok with those restrictions and regressive ideology? We’ll wait while you spin something up.
DP

I’m a Catholic and this thread about a heretic Catholic speaking to young Catholic women. That’s why I care.

If you start a thread about a heretic Muslim I’m sure an educated Muslim could explain to you why it’s lies.

Are you the PP to whom I was addressing my questions? If so - still waiting on your answers. If not, your concerns are irrelevant.

Start your own thread about that. This is about a Catholic a heretic.

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Anonymous wrote:He was speaking to a certain audience. Why do others, not part of that audience, care? There can be many different viewpoints.

Because he is a barometer of sorts. You know we’re all not a bunch of mindless heathens, right? We do read things like Reuters and The Economist and learn about trends. There is a big resurgence of strict Christianity or Christian nationalism in response to the rapid social change that’s taking place.

So people not part of that audience care because it helps us gauge what you all are thinking. What else are you going to decry and try to restrict? What other rights are we potentially going to lose because of your religious ideology and influence. Do you understand that? We want to know what we might be facing. And that bearded dipsht is a thermometer.

Ok - so how do you feel about the strict Muslim community and all of the things they forbid/restrict? You do know they hate the LGBTQ community, and don’t even start with gay marriage. They consider women second-class citizens too. You ok with those restrictions and regressive ideology? We’ll wait while you spin something up.
DP

I’m a Catholic and this thread about a heretic Catholic speaking to young Catholic women. That’s why I care.

If you start a thread about a heretic Muslim I’m sure an educated Muslim could explain to you why it’s lies.

Are you the PP to whom I was addressing my questions? If so - still waiting on your answers. If not, your concerns are irrelevant.

Start your own thread about that. This is about a Catholic a heretic.

Uh, no. I'll stay right here, thanks. You're the only one who wants to discuss a "Catholic heretic." Everyone else is talking about whether what he said was misogynistic or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a disillusioned Democrat who was thinking of sitting the next one out. This guy sure snapped me out of that temporary insanity.

This gives me hope (sincerely). In the darker parts of my mind I envision us all sleepwalking into a largely theocratic, male-centric government while still saying, "They would never do that" where "that" is any number of things: banning abortion even if the pregnancy kills you, or if you a 10 year old rape victim, banning birth control, repealing the civil rights act and not allowing pregnant or married women to work, etc. etc.

Good grief. I say this in all sincerity: you need therapy. None of the things you listed are happening, as much as you like to pretend they are. Every post like that just makes people take you less and less seriously.
DP

So you have never read a history book, or you are too dim to understand what it teaches us.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

DP. That's not what I got from it. He was saying that the *most important accomplishment* for both women AND men is their children and families. I would agree with that, and I'm neither Catholic nor a "trad wife," whatever that is.

Dp- yeah not to the men. Just the ladies. Men have important things to do.

Actually, this is what he said about men. Can't say I disagree with him.

"As I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father and as a man.

To the gentleman here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent disorder, dysfunction and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the US. And a correlation can be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well."

As an NFL kicker he is not home very much.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

DP. That's not what I got from it. He was saying that the *most important accomplishment* for both women AND men is their children and families. I would agree with that, and I'm neither Catholic nor a "trad wife," whatever that is.

Dp- yeah not to the men. Just the ladies. Men have important things to do.

Actually, this is what he said about men. Can't say I disagree with him.

"As I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father and as a man.

To the gentleman here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent disorder, dysfunction and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the US. And a correlation can be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well."

As an NFL kicker he is not home very much.

How could that possibly be true? Wouldn’t that make him a liar or hypocrite? Is that not sinful? I’m sure he’s home every Sunday at least to take the kids to church as he’s the husband and head of the house. I don’t think he’d shift that responsibility to a woman lest Old Testament god smites him for shirking his duties.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

Yep what a slap in the face.

And how is a person opposed to IVF but still think women belong in the home raising babies? I suppose at least these particular women have degrees to fall back on just in case they or their husbands are infertile. Jackass.

- a native KC-er and Chiefs Fan

I'm sure he believes he can get a holy annulment of his marriage if his wife is infertile. But he'll be the first one to the pharmacist for Viagra when his d doesn't work anymore. He's about male privilege, not love of God.

[Anonymous]

Wow 8 pages of people far left of center disagreeing with the views of someone to the far right of center.

Did anyone get up and walk out like the crowd at VCU?

[Anonymous]

Love this posting:

Harrison Butker went to a Catholic college and delivered a speech to Catholic graduates affirming Catholic doctrine. He was literally moved to tears when describing how much his wife means to him. He called out and attacked the lies that millions of young women have been told, lies which leave many of them lonely and miserable rather than fulfilled and happy.

Professional sports is full of criminals, domestic abusers, and men with a half-dozen children they don't raise. For the press to smear a brave, devout family man as an antisemitic, sexist pig is disgusting.

I stand with Harrison Butker.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1790888187474407804

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love this posting:

Harrison Butker went to a Catholic college and delivered a speech to Catholic graduates affirming Catholic doctrine. He was literally moved to tears when describing how much his wife means to him. He called out and attacked the lies that millions of young women have been told, lies which leave many of them lonely and miserable rather than fulfilled and happy.

Professional sports is full of criminals, domestic abusers, and men with a half-dozen children they don't raise. For the press to smear a brave, devout family man as an antisemitic, sexist pig is disgusting.

I stand with Harrison Butker.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1790888187474407804

Me too.

This is the condemnation. Light has come into the world and the world hates the light loved the darkness over the light because their deeds were evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love this posting:

Harrison Butker went to a Catholic college and delivered a speech to Catholic graduates affirming Catholic doctrine. He was literally moved to tears when describing how much his wife means to him. He called out and attacked the lies that millions of young women have been told, lies which leave many of them lonely and miserable rather than fulfilled and happy.

Professional sports is full of criminals, domestic abusers, and men with a half-dozen children they don't raise. For the press to smear a brave, devout family man as an antisemitic, sexist pig is disgusting.

I stand with Harrison Butker.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1790888187474407804

Counterpoint
He’s just another in a long line of dickheads in the NFL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love this posting:

Harrison Butker went to a Catholic college and delivered a speech to Catholic graduates affirming Catholic doctrine. He was literally moved to tears when describing how much his wife means to him. He called out and attacked the lies that millions of young women have been told, lies which leave many of them lonely and miserable rather than fulfilled and happy.

Professional sports is full of criminals, domestic abusers, and men with a half-dozen children they don't raise. For the press to smear a brave, devout family man as an antisemitic, sexist pig is disgusting.

I stand with Harrison Butker.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1790888187474407804

What lies have women been told? Why aren’t they lies for men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this posting:

Harrison Butker went to a Catholic college and delivered a speech to Catholic graduates affirming Catholic doctrine. He was literally moved to tears when describing how much his wife means to him. He called out and attacked the lies that millions of young women have been told, lies which leave many of them lonely and miserable rather than fulfilled and happy.

Professional sports is full of criminals, domestic abusers, and men with a half-dozen children they don't raise. For the press to smear a brave, devout family man as an antisemitic, sexist pig is disgusting.

I stand with Harrison Butker.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1790888187474407804

Counterpoint
He’s just another in a long line of dickheads in the NFL.

Sure.
And, it's clear you did not listen to his speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this posting:

Harrison Butker went to a Catholic college and delivered a speech to Catholic graduates affirming Catholic doctrine. He was literally moved to tears when describing how much his wife means to him. He called out and attacked the lies that millions of young women have been told, lies which leave many of them lonely and miserable rather than fulfilled and happy.

Professional sports is full of criminals, domestic abusers, and men with a half-dozen children they don't raise. For the press to smear a brave, devout family man as an antisemitic, sexist pig is disgusting.

I stand with Harrison Butker.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1790888187474407804

Me too.

This is the condemnation. Light has come into the world and the world hates the light loved the darkness over the light because their deeds were evil.

Wut

[Anonymous]

Considering how we can pretty much all do whatever we want and our mental health issues and crime have skyrocketed, we may have to hear the hard truth that sometimes we have to have us some boundaries.