Georgetown Prep rolling out college admissions without mentioning that kids are recruits

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Anonymous wrote:You people are CRAZY. This is by far one of the most unhinged posts I've seen on DCUM. We now care that a kid got into a college based on athletics versus his brains? As if he won't need to use his brains to pass his classes in college too? This thread WREAKS of jealousy and hate. If you don't like Prep, why comment on them? Just ignore what they have going on and focus on the schools that meet your laundry list of "doing things right"......according to you.

Exactly. There is a sick group of haters on dcum for Prep and other Catholic schools. It is quite striking.

Oh you poor victims. Boo hoo.

Are you having fun?

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Anonymous wrote:You people are CRAZY. This is by far one of the most unhinged posts I've seen on DCUM. We now care that a kid got into a college based on athletics versus his brains? As if he won't need to use his brains to pass his classes in college too? This thread WREAKS of jealousy and hate. If you don't like Prep, why comment on them? Just ignore what they have going on and focus on the schools that meet your laundry list of "doing things right"......according to you.

Exactly. There is a sick group of haters on dcum for Prep and other Catholic schools. It is quite striking.

Oh you poor victims. Boo hoo.

Are you having fun?

Absolutely. Pathetic victimhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most schools indicate athletic recruits.

All of them do. They are transparent.

Where I’ve never seen that can you link?

https://www.instagram.com/sidwellseniors2024

It has the sport listed for athletic recruits.

The Sidwell list you provided is run by students and it does not include all students. They opt in, they choose whether or not to report sports.

The Georgetown Prep school site does officially announce where kids are going. Very few schools do this officially. You are comparing apples to oranges.

Also - when looking at any of these lists - you should assume that the vast majority of T20 admits have a hook. You are mentioning sports, but there are also legacies, VIP, and target populations the school would like to have in their student body.

I have no dog in this fight;Holton-Arms page is run by the school, they state the sport. I guess this is more apples to apple..both single sex schools and the insta decision page is run by the school.

https://www.instagram.com/holtonarms2024?igsh=NmZicmZ4Y3Bsc3ht

Yuck! Mine was an Ivy recruited athlete at Holton ten years ago. She would have hated everyone posting their info like that.

It's a new generation.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most schools indicate athletic recruits.

All of them do. They are transparent.

Where I’ve never seen that can you link?

https://www.instagram.com/sidwellseniors2024

It has the sport listed for athletic recruits.

The Sidwell list you provided is run by students and it does not include all students. They opt in, they choose whether or not to report sports.

The Georgetown Prep school site does officially announce where kids are going. Very few schools do this officially. You are comparing apples to oranges.

Also - when looking at any of these lists - you should assume that the vast majority of T20 admits have a hook. You are mentioning sports, but there are also legacies, VIP, and target populations the school would like to have in their student body.

I have no dog in this fight;Holton-Arms page is run by the school, they state the sport. I guess this is more apples to apple..both single sex schools and the insta decision page is run by the school.

https://www.instagram.com/holtonarms2024?igsh=NmZicmZ4Y3Bsc3ht

Yuck! Mine was an Ivy recruited athlete at Holton ten years ago. She would have hated everyone posting their info like that.

The kids work hard to get recruited why shouldn’t that be highlighted? Is your kid embarrassed that she was a sport recruit?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would not send a kid there but people do.

Agree. Would not send a kid to Columbia!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people are CRAZY. This is by far one of the most unhinged posts I've seen on DCUM. We now care that a kid got into a college based on athletics versus his brains? As if he won't need to use his brains to pass his classes in college too? This thread WREAKS of jealousy and hate. If you don't like Prep, why comment on them? Just ignore what they have going on and focus on the schools that meet your laundry list of "doing things right"......according to you.

Exactly. There is a sick group of haters on dcum for Prep and other Catholic schools. It is quite striking.

Oh you poor victims. Boo hoo.

Are you having fun?

Absolutely. Pathetic victimhood.

Why so much hate? People who hate are generally unhappy themselves...so I will pray that you find happiness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it refreshing the Prep boys didn’t see the need for their own vanity Insta page.

Oh come on....they don't because the school does it....I highly doubt this is because they are somehow choosing some high ground! And, I also assume STA has a tight clamp keeping their boys from making an Insta page.

Are you dense. Many schools have both. A student run one. And then the school does one later.

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People don’t understand what it means to be a top sports recruit. If you are a 5 star then yes you can be stupid. But these days the recruits also have to be very smart. Too much competition. It get them
Noticed for sure but there is too much competition and the days are gone that you can get into a college that is a huge reach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People don’t understand what it means to be a top sports recruit. If you are a 5 star then yes you can be stupid. But these days the recruits also have to be very smart. Too much competition. It get them
Noticed for sure but there is too much competition and the days are gone that you can get into a college that is a huge reach.

It's just not true. Sports recruits can give you 10 points on your GPA at our school. I.e. if you're not a recruit you need a 95 for the same schools that a recruit needs an 85 for. It's a very large difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t understand what it means to be a top sports recruit. If you are a 5 star then yes you can be stupid. But these days the recruits also have to be very smart. Too much competition. It get them
Noticed for sure but there is too much competition and the days are gone that you can get into a college that is a huge reach.

It's just not true. Sports recruits can give you 10 points on your GPA at our school. I.e. if you're not a recruit you need a 95 for the same schools that a recruit needs an 85 for. It's a very large difference.

How do you know this?

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It's amazing how many things people think they know that aren't so.

Although it may be true that for some high schools admitted athletes may have lower GPA's than others that are admitted or even denied admission to the same college.

But there isn't any formula or anything that automatically adds points.

If you want to understand how admissions to highly selective schools and athletic "recruiting" work together, you have to understand the Ivy League Academic Index. Just go to the Ivy League website and you can read all about it.

The Ivy League isn't the only one to use this approach. The NESCAC schools use it also.

The Academic Index requires that the distribution of academic profiles of athletic recruits (SAT scores and class rank) closely matches of the distribution of student academic profiles of the overall population at the school.

If you want to understand this area, it will take some reading on your part. Or you can just spout off with what you heard from someone who thinks they know.

[Anonymous]

Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t understand what it means to be a top sports recruit. If you are a 5 star then yes you can be stupid. But these days the recruits also have to be very smart. Too much competition. It get them
Noticed for sure but there is too much competition and the days are gone that you can get into a college that is a huge reach.

It's just not true. Sports recruits can give you 10 points on your GPA at our school. I.e. if you're not a recruit you need a 95 for the same schools that a recruit needs an 85 for. It's a very large difference.

How do you know this?

Because you can look at Scoir and see that for 5 years and 50 applicants the only kids admitted had over a 4.5 (or whatever) and then the one year an athlete matriculated to that college a kid was admitted with a 3.5. The green dot stands out.
I don't know which athletes went where and when but the kids can generally match a name to a dot because they know that XX went to Yale (or wherever) 2 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

I'm not an athlete basher - but I find it tiresome hearing about all their commitment etc or the legacy or VIP parents swearing their kid was smart anyway.... who cares. Your kid is where they are and they did get a special consideration - own it and move on. Stop trying to convince everyone how deserving they are. There are thousands of other "deserving" students who didn't get an extra bump to get pulled out of the pile - that's life- but yours did, so appreciate that and stop worrying about convincing others (or yourself) of their worthiness. The others will just have to live with the fact that there are more qualified applicants than spaces.

It's just like dealing with parents who want to judge us for going private over public. It's just not worth the discussion. If they want to judge us - who cares - I'm moving on.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it refreshing the Prep boys didn’t see the need for their own vanity Insta page.

Oh come on....they don't because the school does it....I highly doubt this is because they are somehow choosing some high ground! And, I also assume STA has a tight clamp keeping their boys from making an Insta page.

If STA can control what its students post on social media that is an amazing accomplishment

DP. They do not control anything. The boys don't find the need to post a public page. They all post on their own private pages but why would they feel the need to post to people they do not know? Pretty sure a few others do not post either.