Georgetown Prep rolling out college admissions without mentioning that kids are recruits

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t understand what it means to be a top sports recruit. If you are a 5 star then yes you can be stupid. But these days the recruits also have to be very smart. Too much competition. It get them
Noticed for sure but there is too much competition and the days are gone that you can get into a college that is a huge reach.

It's just not true. Sports recruits can give you 10 points on your GPA at our school. I.e. if you're not a recruit you need a 95 for the same schools that a recruit needs an 85 for. It's a very large difference.

How do you know this?

Because you can look at Scoir and see that for 5 years and 50 applicants the only kids admitted had over a 4.5 (or whatever) and then the one year an athlete matriculated to that college a kid was admitted with a 3.5. The green dot stands out.
I don't know which athletes went where and when but the kids can generally match a name to a dot because they know that XX went to Yale (or wherever) 2 years ago.

Hooks such as recruits and legacy are not shown on SCOIR so you actually do not know the athletes gpa. Also SCOIR only shows those accepted and denied does not show if they are attending for sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t understand what it means to be a top sports recruit. If you are a 5 star then yes you can be stupid. But these days the recruits also have to be very smart. Too much competition. It get them
Noticed for sure but there is too much competition and the days are gone that you can get into a college that is a huge reach.

It's just not true. Sports recruits can give you 10 points on your GPA at our school. I.e. if you're not a recruit you need a 95 for the same schools that a recruit needs an 85 for. It's a very large difference.

How do you know this?

Because you can look at Scoir and see that for 5 years and 50 applicants the only kids admitted had over a 4.5 (or whatever) and then the one year an athlete matriculated to that college a kid was admitted with a 3.5. The green dot stands out.
I don't know which athletes went where and when but the kids can generally match a name to a dot because they know that XX went to Yale (or wherever) 2 years ago.

Hooks such as recruits and legacy are not shown on SCOIR so you actually do not know the athletes gpa. Also SCOIR only shows those accepted and denied does not show if they are attending for sure.

Also want to add what private in the area has GPA's 4.5 on SCOIR? I can not think of a single one that calculates that way.

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t understand what it means to be a top sports recruit. If you are a 5 star then yes you can be stupid. But these days the recruits also have to be very smart. Too much competition. It get them
Noticed for sure but there is too much competition and the days are gone that you can get into a college that is a huge reach.

It's just not true. Sports recruits can give you 10 points on your GPA at our school. I.e. if you're not a recruit you need a 95 for the same schools that a recruit needs an 85 for. It's a very large difference.

How do you know this?

Because you can look at Scoir and see that for 5 years and 50 applicants the only kids admitted had over a 4.5 (or whatever) and then the one year an athlete matriculated to that college a kid was admitted with a 3.5. The green dot stands out.
I don't know which athletes went where and when but the kids can generally match a name to a dot because they know that XX went to Yale (or wherever) 2 years ago.

Hooks such as recruits and legacy are not shown on SCOIR so you actually do not know the athletes gpa. Also SCOIR only shows those accepted and denied does not show if they are attending for sure.

it depends on the school. I've had kids at two different schools. one removes hooked kids (including athletes) from Scoir/Naviance; one does not.

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Anonymous wrote:You people are CRAZY. This is by far one of the most unhinged posts I've seen on DCUM. We now care that a kid got into a college based on athletics versus his brains? As if he won't need to use his brains to pass his classes in college too? This thread WREAKS of jealousy and hate. If you don't like Prep, why comment on them? Just ignore what they have going on and focus on the schools that meet your laundry list of "doing things right"......according to you.

Exactly. There is a sick group of haters on dcum for Prep and other Catholic schools. It is quite striking.

Oh you poor victims. Boo hoo.

Are you having fun?

Absolutely. Pathetic victimhood.

Why so much hate? People who hate are generally unhappy themselves...so I will pray that you find happiness.

No one is hating Catholics when criticizing prep for an Instagram post any more than they hate quakers when criticizing Sidwell. Get over yourselves, you’re not victims here

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Prep put out more matriculation announcements today. Congratulations to all the seniors.

For those naysayers who clearly have an irrational grudge against Prep, Columbia and Cornell are in today’s group and I do not believe either are athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

I'm not an athlete basher - but I find it tiresome hearing about all their commitment etc or the legacy or VIP parents swearing their kid was smart anyway.... who cares. Your kid is where they are and they did get a special consideration - own it and move on. Stop trying to convince everyone how deserving they are. There are thousands of other "deserving" students who didn't get an extra bump to get pulled out of the pile - that's life- but yours did, so appreciate that and stop worrying about convincing others (or yourself) of their worthiness. The others will just have to live with the fact that there are more qualified applicants than spaces.

It's just like dealing with parents who want to judge us for going private over public. It's just not worth the discussion. If they want to judge us - who cares - I'm moving on.

+100

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I’d also point out that while Prep’s posts for each graduating senior do not mention their sport, the school’s Insta posts all the info about sports recruits. Just today they had a signing day post. There were additional posts about athlete commits earlier in the year. It’s not like they’re hiding anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d also point out that while Prep’s posts for each graduating senior do not mention their sport, the school’s Insta posts all the info about sports recruits. Just today they had a signing day post. There were additional posts about athlete commits earlier in the year. It’s not like they’re hiding anything.

Yeah - OP is just being crazy AND clearly doesn't understand the landscape of college insta posting.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also point out that while Prep’s posts for each graduating senior do not mention their sport, the school’s Insta posts all the info about sports recruits. Just today they had a signing day post. There were additional posts about athlete commits earlier in the year. It’s not like they’re hiding anything.

Yeah - OP is just being crazy AND clearly doesn't understand the landscape of college insta posting.

100%

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also point out that while Prep’s posts for each graduating senior do not mention their sport, the school’s Insta posts all the info about sports recruits. Just today they had a signing day post. There were additional posts about athlete commits earlier in the year. It’s not like they’re hiding anything.

Yeah - OP is just being crazy AND clearly doesn't understand the landscape of college insta posting.

I think we found another Prep mom

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You people are CRAZY. This is by far one of the most unhinged posts I've seen on DCUM. We now care that a kid got into a college based on athletics versus his brains? As if he won't need to use his brains to pass his classes in college too? This thread WREAKS of jealousy and hate. If you don't like Prep, why comment on them? Just ignore what they have going on and focus on the schools that meet your laundry list of "doing things right"......according to you.

Exactly. There is a sick group of haters on dcum for Prep and other Catholic schools. It is quite striking.

Oh you poor victims. Boo hoo.

Are you having fun?

Absolutely. Pathetic victimhood.

Why so much hate? People who hate are generally unhappy themselves...so I will pray that you find happiness.

No one is hating Catholics when criticizing prep for an Instagram post any more than they hate quakers when criticizing Sidwell. Get over yourselves, you’re not victims here

Are there any Quakers at Sidwell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, who obsesses over this stuff?

+1. Insanity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also point out that while Prep’s posts for each graduating senior do not mention their sport, the school’s Insta posts all the info about sports recruits. Just today they had a signing day post. There were additional posts about athlete commits earlier in the year. It’s not like they’re hiding anything.

Yeah - OP is just being crazy AND clearly doesn't understand the landscape of college insta posting.

I think we found another Prep mom

Nope - Big 3 - never applied to Prep. I just think the OP has no clue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people are CRAZY. This is by far one of the most unhinged posts I've seen on DCUM. We now care that a kid got into a college based on athletics versus his brains? As if he won't need to use his brains to pass his classes in college too? This thread WREAKS of jealousy and hate. If you don't like Prep, why comment on them? Just ignore what they have going on and focus on the schools that meet your laundry list of "doing things right"......according to you.

Exactly. There is a sick group of haters on dcum for Prep and other Catholic schools. It is quite striking.

Oh you poor victims. Boo hoo.

Are you having fun?

Absolutely. Pathetic victimhood.

Why so much hate? People who hate are generally unhappy themselves...so I will pray that you find happiness.

No one is hating Catholics when criticizing prep for an Instagram post any more than they hate quakers when criticizing Sidwell. Get over yourselves, you’re not victims here

Are there any Quakers at Sidwell?

A few. We only discover who they are in May when they have a special photo for "Quaker graduating seniors"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, who obsesses over this stuff?

Too many people. But in many cases they aren't getting the traction they once did. Allow me to elaborate...

On Monday, NCS seniors had t-shirt day where all the girls wear a college t-shirt to the college they have chosen to attend. This is a tradition and it is all celebratory. The girls also take over a part of the walkway/patio outside of Hearst Hall and draw colorful logos of their colleges and sign their names to it. This is for their enjoyment and pride. But of course, someone had to ruin it. A junior mom got photos of the chalk art and created her own list of where seniors are matriculating. She then posted it here on this forum with the header "Thoughts on this list of matriculations?...Top Private".

Well, what a great turn of events when responders didn't bite, but instead called the poster out. By the next day, the thread was deleted. BRAVO to Jeff and/or anyone else involved in that decision!

It's important to remember that there is a teenager behind every college choice. They really don't need anyone else judging them as they had enough of that from the college admissions officers reviewing their applications. Leave the kids alone!