Georgetown Prep rolling out college admissions without mentioning that kids are recruits

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

I'm not an athlete basher - but I find it tiresome hearing about all their commitment etc or the legacy or VIP parents swearing their kid was smart anyway.... who cares. Your kid is where they are and they did get a special consideration - own it and move on. Stop trying to convince everyone how deserving they are. There are thousands of other "deserving" students who didn't get an extra bump to get pulled out of the pile - that's life- but yours did, so appreciate that and stop worrying about convincing others (or yourself) of their worthiness. The others will just have to live with the fact that there are more qualified applicants than spaces.

It's just like dealing with parents who want to judge us for going private over public. It's just not worth the discussion. If they want to judge us - who cares - I'm moving on.

Exactly. Stop perpetuating the myth of meritocracy. Own your privilege and enjoy it while you have it. The way the country is going, it wont be tolerated for much longer; might as well enjoy it while you can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also point out that while Prep’s posts for each graduating senior do not mention their sport, the school’s Insta posts all the info about sports recruits. Just today they had a signing day post. There were additional posts about athlete commits earlier in the year. It’s not like they’re hiding anything.

Yeah - OP is just being crazy AND clearly doesn't understand the landscape of college insta posting.

I think we found another Prep mom

Nope - Big 3 - never applied to Prep. I just think the OP has no clue.

Love how you worked Big 3 into a 15-word post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

I'm not an athlete basher - but I find it tiresome hearing about all their commitment etc or the legacy or VIP parents swearing their kid was smart anyway.... who cares. Your kid is where they are and they did get a special consideration - own it and move on. Stop trying to convince everyone how deserving they are. There are thousands of other "deserving" students who didn't get an extra bump to get pulled out of the pile - that's life- but yours did, so appreciate that and stop worrying about convincing others (or yourself) of their worthiness. The others will just have to live with the fact that there are more qualified applicants than spaces.

It's just like dealing with parents who want to judge us for going private over public. It's just not worth the discussion. If they want to judge us - who cares - I'm moving on.

Exactly. Stop perpetuating the myth of meritocracy. Own your privilege and enjoy it while you have it. The way the country is going, it wont be tolerated for much longer; might as well enjoy it while you can.

A question for clarification: Do you feel the same about kids who are in the performing arts or have accomplished something exceptional outside of their classwork and test scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

I'm not an athlete basher - but I find it tiresome hearing about all their commitment etc or the legacy or VIP parents swearing their kid was smart anyway.... who cares. Your kid is where they are and they did get a special consideration - own it and move on. Stop trying to convince everyone how deserving they are. There are thousands of other "deserving" students who didn't get an extra bump to get pulled out of the pile - that's life- but yours did, so appreciate that and stop worrying about convincing others (or yourself) of their worthiness. The others will just have to live with the fact that there are more qualified applicants than spaces.

It's just like dealing with parents who want to judge us for going private over public. It's just not worth the discussion. If they want to judge us - who cares - I'm moving on.

Exactly. Stop perpetuating the myth of meritocracy. Own your privilege and enjoy it while you have it. The way the country is going, it wont be tolerated for much longer; might as well enjoy it while you can.

A question for clarification: Do you feel the same about kids who are in the performing arts or have accomplished something exceptional outside of their classwork and test scores?

False equivalence. They’re not rewarded in the same way athletic recruits are rewarded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

I'm not an athlete basher - but I find it tiresome hearing about all their commitment etc or the legacy or VIP parents swearing their kid was smart anyway.... who cares. Your kid is where they are and they did get a special consideration - own it and move on. Stop trying to convince everyone how deserving they are. There are thousands of other "deserving" students who didn't get an extra bump to get pulled out of the pile - that's life- but yours did, so appreciate that and stop worrying about convincing others (or yourself) of their worthiness. The others will just have to live with the fact that there are more qualified applicants than spaces.

It's just like dealing with parents who want to judge us for going private over public. It's just not worth the discussion. If they want to judge us - who cares - I'm moving on.

Exactly. Stop perpetuating the myth of meritocracy. Own your privilege and enjoy it while you have it. The way the country is going, it wont be tolerated for much longer; might as well enjoy it while you can.

A question for clarification: Do you feel the same about kids who are in the performing arts or have accomplished something exceptional outside of their classwork and test scores?

False equivalence. They’re not rewarded in the same way athletic recruits are rewarded.

American society and universities both don't recognize them in the same way either though. Look at attendance at Harvard-Yale football versus any other event either school hosts. Both schools don't even play the highest level of college football but those games are the biggest campus events for students and alumni by a wide margin.

If a child was/is a Hollywood star, they can go pretty much wherever they want though!

[Anonymous]

People should be clear here that they hate the game and not the players
It is perfectly reasonable to be unhappy that schools choose to give different weight to different ECs (they are pretty transparent about it) but it is questionable to jump on anonymous forums and start calling out and complaining about individual kids who are 16-18.

[Anonymous]

Everyone agrees there also would not be any true meritocracy if only SAT scores, or standardized tests and GPA, or IQ were used to admit kids, right? Sometimes I and others on the board assume a level of foundational knowledge on subjects that is probably unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep is being dishonest by omission.
They've started announcing their college admissions but conveniently are not designating athletic recruits as such.
Example: today they announced a kid to Columbia and one to JHU. Well, both are athletic recruits.
The regular Joes are going to far different schools.

Schools will often give kids the option to say the sport they plan on playing in the announcements. The vast majority choose to share it and are excited for people to know they'll be playing in college. It isn't some conspiracy about hiding info

At multiple schools they also list walk-ons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are accepted in to schools based off their ability to contribute to the well roundedness of a student body. Each student brings something to the table via academics, arts, culture, demographic background, athletics, and other extracurriculars. Some peoples resentment towards sports as a contributing factor in college admissions shows a misunderstanding of the value gained and learned on the path to athletic excellence. A kid who has dedicated countless hours in the pursuit of a goal deserves recognition for that commitment and effort, whether they are a violinist or a tennis player. It would behoove one to think that maybe that same dedication to excellence might also steer them through medical school, propel them to the top of some other chosen career, or share their perspective on leadership with their peers. Universities continue to pursue athletic admits for a reason. It's part of their school cultures. It's what makes US universities amazing places, or at least what the intention is... A diverse group of individuals with unique and different talents who come together for four years to learn from one another. They (again kids) should be celebrated for their accomplishments and not denigrated by adults on a forum for being rocks who are good at ball sports.

I'm not an athlete basher - but I find it tiresome hearing about all their commitment etc or the legacy or VIP parents swearing their kid was smart anyway.... who cares. Your kid is where they are and they did get a special consideration - own it and move on. Stop trying to convince everyone how deserving they are. There are thousands of other "deserving" students who didn't get an extra bump to get pulled out of the pile - that's life- but yours did, so appreciate that and stop worrying about convincing others (or yourself) of their worthiness. The others will just have to live with the fact that there are more qualified applicants than spaces.

It's just like dealing with parents who want to judge us for going private over public. It's just not worth the discussion. If they want to judge us - who cares - I'm moving on.

Exactly. Stop perpetuating the myth of meritocracy. Own your privilege and enjoy it while you have it. The way the country is going, it wont be tolerated for much longer; might as well enjoy it while you can.

A question for clarification: Do you feel the same about kids who are in the performing arts or have accomplished something exceptional outside of their classwork and test scores?

False equivalence. They’re not rewarded in the same way athletic recruits are rewarded.

American society and universities both don't recognize them in the same way either though. Look at attendance at Harvard-Yale football versus any other event either school hosts. Both schools don't even play the highest level of college football but those games are the biggest campus events for students and alumni by a wide margin.

If a child was/is a Hollywood star, they can go pretty much wherever they want though!

How many students would change their minds about attending Harvard or Yale if they did away with football? Outside of the football team, zero.

It’s not necessary and that’s the most well attended spectator sport on campus. You don’t think they could eliminate the sailing team and feel nothing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone agrees there also would not be any true meritocracy if only SAT scores, or standardized tests and GPA, or IQ were used to admit kids, right? Sometimes I and others on the board assume a level of foundational knowledge on subjects that is probably unfair.

Would any of those students get a dedicated team of recruiters outside the regular application process and a pre-read like athletes do?

[Anonymous]

My kids go to a Big 3. I only know 2 GPrep seniors this year. Neither are athletes nor connected and they are going to Cal Tech and Columbia. Pretty solid in my book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids go to a Big 3. I only know 2 GPrep seniors this year. Neither are athletes nor connected and they are going to Cal Tech and Columbia. Pretty solid in my book.

The Cal Tech kid is a track recruit.

[Anonymous]

It's pretty easy to be "smart" when your first car is more expensive than the teachers, you don't need to work, and the school staff is intimidated by you parents wealth. It's a golden ticket!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids go to a Big 3. I only know 2 GPrep seniors this year. Neither are athletes nor connected and they are going to Cal Tech and Columbia. Pretty solid in my book.

Another gratuitous mention of Big 3! Why are Big 3 parents so insecure?

[Anonymous]

Well I went to the grocery store yesterday and couldn't believe that Aunt Becky is back on the magazine covers. It's a shame that everyone has forgotten that she used tons of money to do frauds for her snotty rich kids. It does however let the upper class know that they can do whatever they want in America and never go to jail.
We deserve what we get- Trump 2024!