wearing a jewish star

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP.

First and foremost, you should wear whatever you want without fear of personal safety. If you want to wear a Star of David necklace, you should be free to do so.

I hope you read the next paragraph in the spirit in which it’s offered. I am not trying to offend you or other Jewish people.

These days, when I see someone wearing a Jewish star, I think they are signaling that they are ok with the carnage in Gaza. I know intellectually that Israel =\= Judaism or Jewish identity. I also know that support of Israel does not mean support of the current government and their actions. That being said, when I see someone today wearing a Star of David, especially someone who until recently wasn’t wearing any Jewish jewelry, o think they are signaling their “side” in the conflict. I know it doesn’t matter what I think and you should be free to wear whatever you want unconstrained by the biases of others.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP.

First and foremost, you should wear whatever you want without fear of personal safety. If you want to wear a Star of David necklace, you should be free to do so.

I hope you read the next paragraph in the spirit in which it’s offered. I am not trying to offend you or other Jewish people.

These days, when I see someone wearing a Jewish star, I think they are signaling that they are ok with the carnage in Gaza. I know intellectually that Israel =\= Judaism or Jewish identity. I also know that support of Israel does not mean support of the current government and their actions. That being said, when I see someone today wearing a Star of David, especially someone who until recently wasn’t wearing any Jewish jewelry, o think they are signaling their “side” in the conflict. I know it doesn’t matter what I think and you should be free to wear whatever you want unconstrained by the biases of others.

Not OP. I appreciate the disclaimer you offered there, but that's still very offensive. Do you also assume that everyone who wears a crucifix is signaling their homophobia, or anyone who wears a headscarf supports Al Qaeda? (Not to imply that those things are all apples-to-apples by any means).

Not even close to apples to apples. How many mosques have you seen displaying flags over the front door "We stand with Al Qaeda" or how many Muslim families do you know who take their kids on heritage trips to meet the Taliban? Zero. Homophobic Christians are also in the minority. But U.S. Jewish support for Israel is a widespread phenomenon. Jews are unique in the close links they have forged with Israel. I understand the reasons behind it, but you can't really compare it to any other religious group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP.

First and foremost, you should wear whatever you want without fear of personal safety. If you want to wear a Star of David necklace, you should be free to do so.

I hope you read the next paragraph in the spirit in which it’s offered. I am not trying to offend you or other Jewish people.

These days, when I see someone wearing a Jewish star, I think they are signaling that they are ok with the carnage in Gaza. I know intellectually that Israel =\= Judaism or Jewish identity. I also know that support of Israel does not mean support of the current government and their actions. That being said, when I see someone today wearing a Star of David, especially someone who until recently wasn’t wearing any Jewish jewelry, o think they are signaling their “side” in the conflict. I know it doesn’t matter what I think and you should be free to wear whatever you want unconstrained by the biases of others.

Not OP. I appreciate the disclaimer you offered there, but that's still very offensive. Do you also assume that everyone who wears a crucifix is signaling their homophobia, or anyone who wears a headscarf supports Al Qaeda? (Not to imply that those things are all apples-to-apples by any means).

Not even close to apples to apples. How many mosques have you seen displaying flags over the front door "We stand with Al Qaeda" or how many Muslim families do you know who take their kids on heritage trips to meet the Taliban? Zero. Homophobic Christians are also in the minority. But U.S. Jewish support for Israel is a widespread phenomenon. Jews are unique in the close links they have forged with Israel. I understand the reasons behind it, but you can't really compare it to any other religious group.

Well if you think Israel is an illegitimate, terrorist state that is a judgment call you made in your head, a judgment you can't force on anyone. So go ahead and think your little thoughts and be irritated by stars of David, but non of this is a problem that we need to say oh I am so sorry I need to be sensitive to this.
-A non Jew, to be clear, I am not speaking for them (but you won't believe that because you probably think the whole world hates Jews and anyone defending them has to be a Jew)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP.

First and foremost, you should wear whatever you want without fear of personal safety. If you want to wear a Star of David necklace, you should be free to do so.

I hope you read the next paragraph in the spirit in which it’s offered. I am not trying to offend you or other Jewish people.

These days, when I see someone wearing a Jewish star, I think they are signaling that they are ok with the carnage in Gaza. I know intellectually that Israel =\= Judaism or Jewish identity. I also know that support of Israel does not mean support of the current government and their actions. That being said, when I see someone today wearing a Star of David, especially someone who until recently wasn’t wearing any Jewish jewelry, o think they are signaling their “side” in the conflict. I know it doesn’t matter what I think and you should be free to wear whatever you want unconstrained by the biases of others.

Not OP. I appreciate the disclaimer you offered there, but that's still very offensive. Do you also assume that everyone who wears a crucifix is signaling their homophobia, or anyone who wears a headscarf supports Al Qaeda? (Not to imply that those things are all apples-to-apples by any means).

Not even close to apples to apples. How many mosques have you seen displaying flags over the front door "We stand with Al Qaeda" or how many Muslim families do you know who take their kids on heritage trips to meet the Taliban? Zero. Homophobic Christians are also in the minority. But U.S. Jewish support for Israel is a widespread phenomenon. Jews are unique in the close links they have forged with Israel. I understand the reasons behind it, but you can't really compare it to any other religious group.

The point of the examples was not that they are all legitimate assumptions. In fact, none of them are good assumptions to make based on one's jewelry. And your post reads like the antisemitic dual-loyalty trope.
Do you know why Jewish support for Israel is so high worldwide? Because we have been kicked out of everywhere else. Even if we never intend to live in Israel and have serious qualms with the actions of the Israeli government, the existence of the State of Israel is a promise of safety for the next rise in antisemitism, the next pogrom.
Assuming that someone wearing a Star of David (which is a symbol of Judaism, not just Israel, btw) wholeheartedly supports the Israeli government demonstrates a lack of understanding of antisemitism, Jewish history, the Jewish Diaspora, and the idea vs. reality of Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP.

First and foremost, you should wear whatever you want without fear of personal safety. If you want to wear a Star of David necklace, you should be free to do so.

I hope you read the next paragraph in the spirit in which it’s offered. I am not trying to offend you or other Jewish people.

These days, when I see someone wearing a Jewish star, I think they are signaling that they are ok with the carnage in Gaza. I know intellectually that Israel =\= Judaism or Jewish identity. I also know that support of Israel does not mean support of the current government and their actions. That being said, when I see someone today wearing a Star of David, especially someone who until recently wasn’t wearing any Jewish jewelry, o think they are signaling their “side” in the conflict. I know it doesn’t matter what I think and you should be free to wear whatever you want unconstrained by the biases of others.

Not OP. I appreciate the disclaimer you offered there, but that's still very offensive. Do you also assume that everyone who wears a crucifix is signaling their homophobia, or anyone who wears a headscarf supports Al Qaeda? (Not to imply that those things are all apples-to-apples by any means).

Not even close to apples to apples. How many mosques have you seen displaying flags over the front door "We stand with Al Qaeda" or how many Muslim families do you know who take their kids on heritage trips to meet the Taliban? Zero. Homophobic Christians are also in the minority. But U.S. Jewish support for Israel is a widespread phenomenon. Jews are unique in the close links they have forged with Israel. I understand the reasons behind it, but you can't really compare it to any other religious group.

Okay, I suggest you take your “Israel = Al Qaeda = Taliban” dishonest equivalency over to the Politics thread. If you keep peddling that crap here this thread will get locked - not only is it inflammatory, it’s off topic. Take it elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP.

First and foremost, you should wear whatever you want without fear of personal safety. If you want to wear a Star of David necklace, you should be free to do so.

I hope you read the next paragraph in the spirit in which it’s offered. I am not trying to offend you or other Jewish people.

These days, when I see someone wearing a Jewish star, I think they are signaling that they are ok with the carnage in Gaza. I know intellectually that Israel =\= Judaism or Jewish identity. I also know that support of Israel does not mean support of the current government and their actions. That being said, when I see someone today wearing a Star of David, especially someone who until recently wasn’t wearing any Jewish jewelry, o think they are signaling their “side” in the conflict. I know it doesn’t matter what I think and you should be free to wear whatever you want unconstrained by the biases of others.

Not OP. I appreciate the disclaimer you offered there, but that's still very offensive. Do you also assume that everyone who wears a crucifix is signaling their homophobia, or anyone who wears a headscarf supports Al Qaeda? (Not to imply that those things are all apples-to-apples by any means).

Not even close to apples to apples. How many mosques have you seen displaying flags over the front door "We stand with Al Qaeda" or how many Muslim families do you know who take their kids on heritage trips to meet the Taliban? Zero. Homophobic Christians are also in the minority. But U.S. Jewish support for Israel is a widespread phenomenon. Jews are unique in the close links they have forged with Israel. I understand the reasons behind it, but you can't really compare it to any other religious group.

Okay, I suggest you take your “Israel = Al Qaeda = Taliban” dishonest equivalency over to the Politics thread. If you keep peddling that crap here this thread will get locked - not only is it inflammatory, it’s off topic. Take it elsewhere.

Sadly, I believe this thread will only get locked if we insist on discussing the centrality of deep-seated antisemitism to current discourse about both American Jewish life and Israel.

You are correct that in the Politics forum, our moderator holds a permanent, special place for demonization of Jews.

But I think it is less that he won't allow demonization of Jews elsewhere than he will not allow long-running exploration of antisemitism elsewhere. He repeatedly dismisses Jew hatred as the driving force in current events and doesn't let us discuss it in depth on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for writing that. I thought I was alone in thinking that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP.

First and foremost, you should wear whatever you want without fear of personal safety. If you want to wear a Star of David necklace, you should be free to do so.

I hope you read the next paragraph in the spirit in which it’s offered. I am not trying to offend you or other Jewish people.

These days, when I see someone wearing a Jewish star, I think they are signaling that they are ok with the carnage in Gaza. I know intellectually that Israel =\= Judaism or Jewish identity. I also know that support of Israel does not mean support of the current government and their actions. That being said, when I see someone today wearing a Star of David, especially someone who until recently wasn’t wearing any Jewish jewelry, o think they are signaling their “side” in the conflict. I know it doesn’t matter what I think and you should be free to wear whatever you want unconstrained by the biases of others.

Not OP. I appreciate the disclaimer you offered there, but that's still very offensive. Do you also assume that everyone who wears a crucifix is signaling their homophobia, or anyone who wears a headscarf supports Al Qaeda? (Not to imply that those things are all apples-to-apples by any means).

Not even close to apples to apples. How many mosques have you seen displaying flags over the front door "We stand with Al Qaeda" or how many Muslim families do you know who take their kids on heritage trips to meet the Taliban? Zero. Homophobic Christians are also in the minority. But U.S. Jewish support for Israel is a widespread phenomenon. Jews are unique in the close links they have forged with Israel. I understand the reasons behind it, but you can't really compare it to any other religious group.

Okay, I suggest you take your “Israel = Al Qaeda = Taliban” dishonest equivalency over to the Politics thread. If you keep peddling that crap here this thread will get locked - not only is it inflammatory, it’s off topic. Take it elsewhere.

Ok. I wrote the first post that started this little subthread and haven’t posted since. I am sorry I pulled things off course. Bowing out now. Hopefully those who want to continue can take this to the politics thread. Good luck to OP.

[Anonymous]

I’m not Jewish but my wife is. I found a Star the size of a hood ornament and started wearing it on the biggest chain I had. I leave an extra button open on my shirts just to make sure people can see it.

I dare someone to pick a fight with me.

[Anonymous]

Didn’t read all posts but, there are many options besides a Magen David—a chai, or look up a Shema ring or necklace that has the first sentence of the prayer written in script.
I happen to like these more and not because it is not as obvious.