Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

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Anonymous wrote:We are considering buying a sfh in Bethesda, and hoping to dwell in a neighborhood of such. What should I think about in terms of the "impact" of this plan?

If you're worried about having a duplex in your neighborhood, make sure to move to one of the remoter parts of Bethesda, far from anything.

What parts of Bethesda do you believe would be safe if you actually want to maintain your nice SFH neighborhood

I don't mind a duplex, but I would be dismayed by a six plex or if an apartment building went up. Where can I dig into the details of this? Is there any kind of visual aid (map) to show the areas affected by this? What is the path of resistance, or is this a done deal?

We are putting an offer soon. Trying to escape the morons running DC - didn't realize Bethesda and CC had the same density bros/equity bros in charge.

Watch the presentation, there are maps and aids and they lay the entire thing out as they envision it. The first posts in the thread point to minute marks.

Thank you. I watched the beginning and found the women declaring how excited they were over and over really annoying and turned it off. We are trying to escape that mix of naivete/unintended consequences/dogoodery mixed with greed that we have in DC politics and development right now. Hate the thought of running into the exact same bunch. But I'll try to stomach the video

The people running the video made it seem like it was a high school project. Those are the people outlining a project of this scale!?

You said it. So cringey! I skimmed the video, but the presenters were so very distracting. I am looking on the website for documents and visuals to review .

This is a you issue.

That something with a lot of impact feels like wandering through a middle school science fair that's not even your kid (sorry middle school scientists!). Ok.

Again: that's a you issue. That's what it feels like, to you.

It's a terrible presentation that could have been 10-15 minutes long. Try that next time you cobble together a presentation.

When the Council invites you to do a presentation, you can show everyone how it's done.

The council is a gaggle of leeches. I have zero respect for anyone in that office.

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Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

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Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

never trust anyone that works for Moco! One thing i've learned in my 47 years in the county

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

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Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

Correct.

I support it just because I see it gets so many UMC dcums living in Bethesda, CC , and Potomac furious at the thought of losing home equity or having (gasp!) poors living on their street in MFH units on former SFH lots.

I mean, I hate the stereotypical dcum, and this sh!t is like kryptonite to them, lolz! So yeah, I totally support this. Hell yeah.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

Correct.

I support it just because I see it gets so many UMC dcums living in Bethesda, CC , and Potomac furious at the thought of losing home equity or having (gasp!) poors living on their street in MFH units on former SFH lots.

I mean, I hate the stereotypical dcum, and this sh!t is like kryptonite to them, lolz! So yeah, I totally support this. Hell yeah.

That's interesting - I support it because it's good housing policy, and good transportation policy, and oh yes, good environmental policy too.

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Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

Correct.

I support it just because I see it gets so many UMC dcums living in Bethesda, CC , and Potomac furious at the thought of losing home equity or having (gasp!) poors living on their street in MFH units on former SFH lots.

I mean, I hate the stereotypical dcum, and this sh!t is like kryptonite to them, lolz! So yeah, I totally support this. Hell yeah.

My understanding is that these homes will be worth more because a buyer could build a duplex or something larger. So, I guess the policy results in more home equity, not less. Now, of course, those residents might leave MoCo, costing MoCo huge tax revenues and decreasing MoCo's ability to fund all sorts of services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

How do we provide meaningful input?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

Correct.

I support it just because I see it gets so many UMC dcums living in Bethesda, CC , and Potomac furious at the thought of losing home equity or having (gasp!) poors living on their street in MFH units on former SFH lots.

I mean, I hate the stereotypical dcum, and this sh!t is like kryptonite to them, lolz! So yeah, I totally support this. Hell yeah.

Until you mature, have a couple of kids, and wonder where all the SFHs, leafy neighborhoods and decent schools have gone . Call us then..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

Correct.

I support it just because I see it gets so many UMC dcums living in Bethesda, CC , and Potomac furious at the thought of losing home equity or having (gasp!) poors living on their street in MFH units on former SFH lots.

I mean, I hate the stereotypical dcum, and this sh!t is like kryptonite to them, lolz! So yeah, I totally support this. Hell yeah.

Until you mature, have a couple of kids, and wonder where all the SFHs, leafy neighborhoods and decent schools have gone . Call us then..

PP, with all due respect, you might consider diversifying your range of acquaintances. Not everyone lives the same life, has the same budget, or wants the same thing.

-middle-aged MoCo resident with HS kids in MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

How do we provide meaningful input?

I personally think that the best thing to do is to share the information with friends and neighbors and get your community and neighborhood associations engaged. They can organize opinion pieces and editorials in local publications and organize with each other and work to retain legal representation to see what groundwork can be laid ahead of time. They should study the efforts in Arlington, Alexandra, and elsewhere to see what worked and what didn’t. Speak at public hearings and write testimony.

Also, make sure that everyone is on the same page when it comes time to donate money to campaigns, sign petitions, and gather votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

Correct.

I support it just because I see it gets so many UMC dcums living in Bethesda, CC , and Potomac furious at the thought of losing home equity or having (gasp!) poors living on their street in MFH units on former SFH lots.

I mean, I hate the stereotypical dcum, and this sh!t is like kryptonite to them, lolz! So yeah, I totally support this. Hell yeah.

My understanding is that these homes will be worth more because a buyer could build a duplex or something larger. So, I guess the policy results in more home equity, not less. Now, of course, those residents might leave MoCo, costing MoCo huge tax revenues and decreasing MoCo's ability to fund all sorts of services.

Only the below market homes that are profitable to tear down. Once a couple of those are built the surrounding homes will be worth less because their improved structures will be worth less even if the land as a potential building site is worth a little more. People that live in existing improved homes will lose out. However, you’ll also get gentrification in lower value areas, so you’ve got that going for you.

[Anonymous]

I personally think that the best thing to do is to share the information with friends and neighbors and get your community and neighborhood associations engaged. They can organize opinion pieces and editorials in local publications and organize with each other and work to retain legal representation to see what groundwork can be laid ahead of time. They should study the efforts in Arlington, Alexandra, and elsewhere to see what worked and what didn’t. Speak at public hearings and write testimony.

Also, make sure that everyone is on the same page when it comes time to donate money to campaigns, sign petitions, and gather votes.

Yes we need to get some attorneys involved ASAP to organize a response and rally the HOAs. Don’t make the mistake that Arlington residents did and wait until it is too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The group doing the presentation has 255 members, so I'm not sure where this is going.

The presentation was introduced by, and is partially the initiative of, Andrew Friedson, Council President. The PowerPoint was made and presented by a Senior Housing Planner working for Montgomery County. No one is playing with facts or hyperbole, the presentation is right there to be reviewed. It consists of THEIR WORDS.

However, one true thing is that the actual support for this is small…but if we don’t make it known, it might become too late to have meaningful input.

Just because you personally don't know anyone who supports it doesn't mean support for this is small.

Correct.

I support it just because I see it gets so many UMC dcums living in Bethesda, CC , and Potomac furious at the thought of losing home equity or having (gasp!) poors living on their street in MFH units on former SFH lots.

I mean, I hate the stereotypical dcum, and this sh!t is like kryptonite to them, lolz! So yeah, I totally support this. Hell yeah.

Until you mature, have a couple of kids, and wonder where all the SFHs, leafy neighborhoods and decent schools have gone . Call us then..

PP, with all due respect, you might consider diversifying your range of acquaintances. Not everyone lives the same life, has the same budget, or wants the same thing.

-middle-aged MoCo resident with HS kids in MCPS

Thanks, I'll ponder that. Who knew?

[Anonymous]

I personally want to Manhattanize the entire urban corridor from Downtown Bethesda all the way to Germantown