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Anonymous wrote:Every time I go by Chevy Chase Country Club and Columbia(?) Country Club while riding the X1 bus up Connecticut Ave, I wonder how many people could have homes if those massive properties had affordable high rise buildings on them instead of golf courses.

It would literally solve the housing problems of everyone in the DC area. It’s heartbreaking.

Wow - what a great idea. I see no problems with this whatsoever.

And no current homes would be lost in the process. That’s the beauty of it. It’s equitable for everyone involved.

And those who purchased a SFH in a n-hood of SFHs in order to live in such an area will move. Very simple. And guess what? Those who live in SFHs pay a huge percentage of MoCo's income tax revenues. Neither Maryland nor MoCo are growing. This is a made up crisis.

I’m confused as to why you think it’s a better idea to force people OUT of existing homes to bulldoze and build high density housing, than to build that high density housing in a place that is currently devoid of any housing at all. Why force people from their homes just for sake of keeping empty space empty? That makes NO sense. Are you daft or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time I go by Chevy Chase Country Club and Columbia(?) Country Club while riding the X1 bus up Connecticut Ave, I wonder how many people could have homes if those massive properties had affordable high rise buildings on them instead of golf courses.

It would literally solve the housing problems of everyone in the DC area. It’s heartbreaking.

Wow - what a great idea. I see no problems with this whatsoever.

I am a member of one of those. If the county wants to pay me my $100k fee back then go for it. Otherwise, good luck.

Why do people think they have a right to live in the most expensive neighborhoods in the country?

Why on earth do you fancy the county owes you a refund? You don’t even own the property. You just pay for the privilege of using it. After it becomes a community, you’ll no longer need to pay you dues. Problem solved.

But refunding you your initiation fee for something you’ve already used, presumably for years? That’s nutty. Go away.

And as for “living next to expensive neighborhoods” - your home value has precisely ZERO to do with it l, you conceited buggar. It’s about two things only: 1) proximity to transit (purple and red lines, and 2) open space that is currently not occupied by existing homes.


No one gives a sh!t about your silly golf course, Brett. There’s a lot more people who need affordable housing than there are members of your club. And in the end that’s all that matters. Hopefully the county will just eminent domain those clubs and be done with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ouch. Covenants and historic neighborhoods people. Protect your property

Do what you can, but it’s coming. All Thrive 2050.

Now they are establishing transportation corridors with “mass transit.” You know, the BRT, aka the bus. Mink, Friedson and Glass are right now proposing to end residential parking requirements within so far of a bus stop, and I think that it is one quarter of a mile. One half mile from the purple line. Then they will say, oh look, a perfect opportunity to build density here!! Great mother urbanism is coming whether you like it or not. Remember in November.

Yes, a bus is mass transit. Yes, the Purple Line is mass transit. No, they are not proposing to end parking requirements near a bus STOP. Yes, I will remember their support for housing and mass transit in November, even though they will not be on the ballot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time I go by Chevy Chase Country Club and Columbia(?) Country Club while riding the X1 bus up Connecticut Ave, I wonder how many people could have homes if those massive properties had affordable high rise buildings on them instead of golf courses.

It would literally solve the housing problems of everyone in the DC area. It’s heartbreaking.

Wow - what a great idea. I see no problems with this whatsoever.

I am a member of one of those. If the county wants to pay me my $100k fee back then go for it. Otherwise, good luck.

Why do people think they have a right to live in the most expensive neighborhoods in the country?

Why do people think they get to make decisions about property that is not owned by them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time I go by Chevy Chase Country Club and Columbia(?) Country Club while riding the X1 bus up Connecticut Ave, I wonder how many people could have homes if those massive properties had affordable high rise buildings on them instead of golf courses.

It would literally solve the housing problems of everyone in the DC area. It’s heartbreaking.

Wow - what a great idea. I see no problems with this whatsoever.

I am a member of one of those. If the county wants to pay me my $100k fee back then go for it. Otherwise, good luck.

Why do people think they have a right to live in the most expensive neighborhoods in the country?

Why on earth do you fancy the county owes you a refund? You don’t even own the property. You just pay for the privilege of using it. After it becomes a community, you’ll no longer need to pay you dues. Problem solved.

But refunding you your initiation fee for something you’ve already used, presumably for years? That’s nutty. Go away.

And as for “living next to expensive neighborhoods” - your home value has precisely ZERO to do with it l, you conceited buggar. It’s about two things only: 1) proximity to transit (purple and red lines, and 2) open space that is currently not occupied by existing homes.


No one gives a sh!t about your silly golf course, Brett. There’s a lot more people who need affordable housing than there are members of your club. And in the end that’s all that matters. Hopefully the county will just eminent domain those clubs and be done with it.

lol someone got a little annoyed huh?

Actually all that matters to me is walking to my 2pm tee time but here we are!

There are plenty of affordable places in Moco with transit. What's wrong with Takoma Park, Silver Spring, Wheaton?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time I go by Chevy Chase Country Club and Columbia(?) Country Club while riding the X1 bus up Connecticut Ave, I wonder how many people could have homes if those massive properties had affordable high rise buildings on them instead of golf courses.

It would literally solve the housing problems of everyone in the DC area. It’s heartbreaking.

Wow - what a great idea. I see no problems with this whatsoever.

I am a member of one of those. If the county wants to pay me my $100k fee back then go for it. Otherwise, good luck.

Why do people think they have a right to live in the most expensive neighborhoods in the country?

Why on earth do you fancy the county owes you a refund? You don’t even own the property. You just pay for the privilege of using it. After it becomes a community, you’ll no longer need to pay you dues. Problem solved.

But refunding you your initiation fee for something you’ve already used, presumably for years? That’s nutty. Go away.

And as for “living next to expensive neighborhoods” - your home value has precisely ZERO to do with it l, you conceited buggar. It’s about two things only: 1) proximity to transit (purple and red lines, and 2) open space that is currently not occupied by existing homes.


No one gives a sh!t about your silly golf course, Brett. There’s a lot more people who need affordable housing than there are members of your club. And in the end that’s all that matters. Hopefully the county will just eminent domain those clubs and be done with it.

Not PP but pretty sure a lot of people care about that silly golf course. Pretty sure you have a better chance of Trump being the next mayor of DC than having Chevy become affordable housing high rises

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ouch. Covenants and historic neighborhoods people. Protect your property

Do what you can, but it’s coming. All Thrive 2050.

Now they are establishing transportation corridors with “mass transit.” You know, the BRT, aka the bus. Mink, Friedson and Glass are right now proposing to end residential parking requirements within so far of a bus stop, and I think that it is one quarter of a mile. One half mile from the purple line. Then they will say, oh look, a perfect opportunity to build density here!! Great mother urbanism is coming whether you like it or not. Remember in November.

Yes, a bus is mass transit. Yes, the Purple Line is mass transit. No, they are not proposing to end parking requirements near a bus STOP. Yes, I will remember their support for housing and mass transit in November, even though they will not be on the ballot.

Did you read the legislation? It’s easy to look up. Within 1/4 mile of BRT stops. Do you know what BRT stands for?

The BRT is a bus. It’s the first word, even.

I’ll even paste it here.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=44361

It won’t be on the ballot, no, for the same reason that they never put Thrive 2050 on the ballot. It would get voted down, hard. People will be on the ballot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ouch. Covenants and historic neighborhoods people. Protect your property

Do what you can, but it’s coming. All Thrive 2050.

Now they are establishing transportation corridors with “mass transit.” You know, the BRT, aka the bus. Mink, Friedson and Glass are right now proposing to end residential parking requirements within so far of a bus stop, and I think that it is one quarter of a mile. One half mile from the purple line. Then they will say, oh look, a perfect opportunity to build density here!! Great mother urbanism is coming whether you like it or not. Remember in November.

Yes, a bus is mass transit. Yes, the Purple Line is mass transit. No, they are not proposing to end parking requirements near a bus STOP. Yes, I will remember their support for housing and mass transit in November, even though they will not be on the ballot.

Did you read the legislation? It’s easy to look up. Within 1/4 mile of BRT stops. Do you know what BRT stands for?

The BRT is a bus. It’s the first word, even.

I’ll even paste it here.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=44361

It won’t be on the ballot, no, for the same reason that they never put Thrive 2050 on the ballot. It would get voted down, hard. People will be on the ballot.

People who never take a bus don't know the difference between a bus stop and a BRT station, I guess.

Thrive 2050 wasn't on the ballot because the county doesn't adopt land use plans by referendum. The county also doesn't adopt zoning code changes by referendum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ouch. Covenants and historic neighborhoods people. Protect your property

Do what you can, but it’s coming. All Thrive 2050.

Now they are establishing transportation corridors with “mass transit.” You know, the BRT, aka the bus. Mink, Friedson and Glass are right now proposing to end residential parking requirements within so far of a bus stop, and I think that it is one quarter of a mile. One half mile from the purple line. Then they will say, oh look, a perfect opportunity to build density here!! Great mother urbanism is coming whether you like it or not. Remember in November.

Yes, a bus is mass transit. Yes, the Purple Line is mass transit. No, they are not proposing to end parking requirements near a bus STOP. Yes, I will remember their support for housing and mass transit in November, even though they will not be on the ballot.

Did you read the legislation? It’s easy to look up. Within 1/4 mile of BRT stops. Do you know what BRT stands for?

The BRT is a bus. It’s the first word, even.

I’ll even paste it here.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=44361

It won’t be on the ballot, no, for the same reason that they never put Thrive 2050 on the ballot. It would get voted down, hard. People will be on the ballot.

People who never take a bus don't know the difference between a bus stop and a BRT station, I guess.

Thrive 2050 wasn't on the ballot because the county doesn't adopt land use plans by referendum. The county also doesn't adopt zoning code changes by referendum.

Moco resident for 42 years and never knew what BRT was until I just googled it.

[Anonymous]

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No one gives a sh!t about your silly golf course, Brett. There’s a lot more people who need affordable housing than there are members of your club. And in the end that’s all that matters. Hopefully the county will just eminent domain those clubs and be done with it.

The county will not take the Chevy Chase Country club or the Columbia Country Club by eminent domain, because it would cost too much and spend decades in court.

I do support an end to the country clubs' property tax exemption, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ouch. Covenants and historic neighborhoods people. Protect your property

Do what you can, but it’s coming. All Thrive 2050.

Now they are establishing transportation corridors with “mass transit.” You know, the BRT, aka the bus. Mink, Friedson and Glass are right now proposing to end residential parking requirements within so far of a bus stop, and I think that it is one quarter of a mile. One half mile from the purple line. Then they will say, oh look, a perfect opportunity to build density here!! Great mother urbanism is coming whether you like it or not. Remember in November.

Yes, a bus is mass transit. Yes, the Purple Line is mass transit. No, they are not proposing to end parking requirements near a bus STOP. Yes, I will remember their support for housing and mass transit in November, even though they will not be on the ballot.

Did you read the legislation? It’s easy to look up. Within 1/4 mile of BRT stops. Do you know what BRT stands for?

The BRT is a bus. It’s the first word, even.

I’ll even paste it here.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=44361

It won’t be on the ballot, no, for the same reason that they never put Thrive 2050 on the ballot. It would get voted down, hard. People will be on the ballot.

People who never take a bus don't know the difference between a bus stop and a BRT station, I guess.

Thrive 2050 wasn't on the ballot because the county doesn't adopt land use plans by referendum. The county also doesn't adopt zoning code changes by referendum.

If that’s all you have then I am feeling pretty confident that it won’t happen, especially if residents start organizing now. Thank you for the BUS rapid transit pedantry. You know, the BUS “rapid” transit that they are building all over the county as part of the needed “infrastructure” to sneak in zoning changes.

Everyone that has a planned BRT line or purple line stop can look forward to living the urban dream, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ouch. Covenants and historic neighborhoods people. Protect your property

Do what you can, but it’s coming. All Thrive 2050.

Now they are establishing transportation corridors with “mass transit.” You know, the BRT, aka the bus. Mink, Friedson and Glass are right now proposing to end residential parking requirements within so far of a bus stop, and I think that it is one quarter of a mile. One half mile from the purple line. Then they will say, oh look, a perfect opportunity to build density here!! Great mother urbanism is coming whether you like it or not. Remember in November.

Yes, a bus is mass transit. Yes, the Purple Line is mass transit. No, they are not proposing to end parking requirements near a bus STOP. Yes, I will remember their support for housing and mass transit in November, even though they will not be on the ballot.

Did you read the legislation? It’s easy to look up. Within 1/4 mile of BRT stops. Do you know what BRT stands for?

The BRT is a bus. It’s the first word, even.

I’ll even paste it here.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=44361

It won’t be on the ballot, no, for the same reason that they never put Thrive 2050 on the ballot. It would get voted down, hard. People will be on the ballot.

People who never take a bus don't know the difference between a bus stop and a BRT station, I guess.

Thrive 2050 wasn't on the ballot because the county doesn't adopt land use plans by referendum. The county also doesn't adopt zoning code changes by referendum.

If that’s all you have then I am feeling pretty confident that it won’t happen, especially if residents start organizing now. Thank you for the BUS rapid transit pedantry. You know, the BUS “rapid” transit that they are building all over the county as part of the needed “infrastructure” to sneak in zoning changes.

Everyone that has a planned BRT line or purple line stop can look forward to living the urban dream, I guess.

Why the scare quotes? BRT actually is infrastructure. When is the last time you used a RideOn bus or Metrobus to go somewhere?

[Anonymous]

All of these YIMBY-related organizations are political pawns for developers. If you look at who is funding this Orgs (GGW, NOVA YIMBYS, etc.), it comes from large corporate developers who would like the ability to build anything and everything wherever they want. These developers are purely interested in making money and do not care about anything else. Communities that fall for this ruse will face serious consequences when the quality of local government services significantly declines due to a lack of consideration for legitimate infrastructure limitations. The developers get rich from this and do not care about destroying communities. They live in gated neighborhoods and send their kids to private schools, so they are glad to destroy residents' communities to make money and are mostly insulated from the real-world consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of these YIMBY-related organizations are political pawns for developers. If you look at who is funding this Orgs (GGW, NOVA YIMBYS, etc.), it comes from large corporate developers who would like the ability to build anything and everything wherever they want. These developers are purely interested in making money and do not care about anything else. Communities that fall for this ruse will face serious consequences when the quality of local government services significantly declines due to a lack of consideration for legitimate infrastructure limitations. The developers get rich from this and do not care about destroying communities. They live in gated neighborhoods and send their kids to private schools, so they are glad to destroy residents' communities to make money and are mostly insulated from the real-world consequences.

Exactly! pure puppets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of these YIMBY-related organizations are political pawns for developers. If you look at who is funding this Orgs (GGW, NOVA YIMBYS, etc.), it comes from large corporate developers who would like the ability to build anything and everything wherever they want. These developers are purely interested in making money and do not care about anything else. Communities that fall for this ruse will face serious consequences when the quality of local government services significantly declines due to a lack of consideration for legitimate infrastructure limitations. The developers get rich from this and do not care about destroying communities. They live in gated neighborhoods and send their kids to private schools, so they are glad to destroy residents' communities to make money and are mostly insulated from the real-world consequences.

Where are there "gated neighborhoods" in Montgomery County?