UVA OOS vs UF in-state

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Anonymous wrote:Opinion? Stay in FL

We live in DC.

The in-state thing is possible if you have a grandparent in FL (yes, really). So we'd get DCTag money as well.

It would make UF cost about as much as a European vacation.

Major is CS

You need to apply and get the grandparent tuition and there is a very limited amount. Have you already secured this?

This was my question too, and it doesn't look like the OP has come back to answer it. I'm from Florida and my parents still live there so we looked into this and it is very limited. If memory serves the state allocates somewhere around 300 total per year and that is divided between all their state schools.

It is not as hard to get as you think. Two years in but the class of 2027 kids who submitted as late as end of January got it. Each year will probably get harder as more people find out but still likely if paperwork is turned in within first couple months when application opens.

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Anonymous wrote:Opinion? Stay in FL

We live in DC.

The in-state thing is possible if you have a grandparent in FL (yes, really). So we'd get DCTag money as well.

It would make UF cost about as much as a European vacation.

Major is CS

You need to apply and get the grandparent tuition and there is a very limited amount. Have you already secured this?

This was my question too, and it doesn't look like the OP has come back to answer it. I'm from Florida and my parents still live there so we looked into this and it is very limited. If memory serves the state allocates somewhere around 300 total per year and that is divided between all their state schools.

It is not as hard to get as you think. Two years in but the class of 2027 kids who submitted as late as end of January got it. Each year will probably get harder as more people find out but still likely if paperwork is turned in within first couple months when application opens.

Still doesn’t help op..

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Anonymous wrote:On college confidential, several people mentioned getting into Michigan but not UF. UF is definitely becoming more selective.

UF is known for being quirky with oos admissions, it often doesn’t take the highest stat students.

Selective doesn’t equal better. Almost all schools are becoming more selective. Tennessee admitted 25% OOS this year, and you don’t hear people comparing it to UVA.

Tennessee kids have much lower stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a hiring manager, I did not find UVA particularly impressive. Maybe it's a big deal in Virginia.

I'm an alum of UF and would not be "impressed" by the school, yet I would know from personal experience that the education is high quality.

I'd find Michigan impressive.

Not sure why. All big state schools, similar kids would go.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is in here arguing over Michigan and UVA and UF isn’t even part of the conversation, because no one would choose UF over either of these schools except Florida residents!

+1, from a FL resident.

That said, 100% free ride to UF is an awfully nice backup plan if DC doesn't get accepted to T10 private.

Wouldn't pay UVA or UM OOS tuition vs. UF free ride.

NO. WE are in MD. Paying for UMD over those schools too. UM OOS $70,000. Umm no. NO thanks

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Anonymous wrote:On college confidential, several people mentioned getting into Michigan but not UF. UF is definitely becoming more selective.

UF is known for being quirky with oos admissions, it often doesn’t take the highest stat students.

Regardless the method of selection, OOS acceptance rate appears to be at or below 10% this admissions cycle.

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Anonymous wrote:On college confidential, several people mentioned getting into Michigan but not UF. UF is definitely becoming more selective.

UF is known for being quirky with oos admissions, it often doesn’t take the highest stat students.

Regardless the method of selection, OOS acceptance rate appears to be at or below 10% this admissions cycle.

Do you know if UF published that information? I was really curious about getting the information on this cycle's admits.

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I know that this cycle for UF was especially tough - both getting in, as well as on the kids who did not get accepted (lots of the rejected kids had pretty high stats).

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Anonymous wrote:UF alum here. UVA, no question. UF is a diploma mill. Every UF grad I have worked with in over 20 years lacked basic skills. I would never send my kids there.

No doubt a troll ^^. UF is ranked #28 in national universities, and is the #6 public school. Nice try, though!

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-florida-1535#:~:text=University%20of%20Florida%27s%20ranking%20in%20the%202024,edition%20of%20Best%20Colleges%20is%20National%20Universities%2C%20%2328.

UF’s high ranking is mostly based on affordability.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On college confidential, several people mentioned getting into Michigan but not UF. UF is definitely becoming more selective.

UF is known for being quirky with oos admissions, it often doesn’t take the highest stat students.

Regardless the method of selection, OOS acceptance rate appears to be at or below 10% this admissions cycle.

Do you know if UF published that information? I was really curious about getting the information on this cycle's admits.

I'm unaware whether it has already been officially published, but estimates I've been able to work out using the priority admissions data from their Dec. 2023 disclosure suggest that the likelihood that the OOS acceptance count exceeded 2,900 is low. At that point, the acceptance rate would fall below 10%.

Expected would be some ED dropouts from the OOS pool who notified UF that they were no longer to be considered for admission, but I would expect that count to be lower than the non-priority applications received from OOS applicants after 11/1/2023. Everything considered, it looking like the OOS acceptance rate is going to land around that 10% level.

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Anonymous wrote:On college confidential, several people mentioned getting into Michigan but not UF. UF is definitely becoming more selective.

UF is known for being quirky with oos admissions, it often doesn’t take the highest stat students.

Regardless the method of selection, OOS acceptance rate appears to be at or below 10% this admissions cycle.

Do you know if UF published that information? I was really curious about getting the information on this cycle's admits.

I'm unaware whether it has already been officially published, but estimates I've been able to work out using the priority admissions data from their Dec. 2023 disclosure suggest that the likelihood that the OOS acceptance count exceeded 2,900 is low. At that point, the acceptance rate would fall below 10%.

Expected would be some ED dropouts from the OOS pool who notified UF that they were no longer to be considered for admission, but I would expect that count to be lower than the non-priority applications received from OOS applicants after 11/1/2023. Everything considered, it looking like the OOS acceptance rate is going to land around that 10% level.

This seems unlikely as last year’s oos acceptance rate was 20 percent. You probably aren’t accounting for the fact that they accept way more students than actually enroll. So if they enroll 2900 oos students, they likely are admitting at least twice that assuming an oos yield of 50 percent, which is probably too generous.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA OOS (around $70k/year, all-in) vs UF (honors, FWIW) in-state.

UF would obviously be far less expensive - instate tuition <$10k.

UVA is well-respected, especially in the mid-atlantic. While UF is a pretty highly ranked public, I'm just not sure. Looking for opinions...

UVA is more than 70k. Add the Florida in-state tuition to the 70k and you have what it costs — 80k, or more depending on major. But you would know that if DC was actually choosing between these schools.

With DCTag and the major choice, it's around 70. Nice attitude, though. You seem a little jealous.

It's 90, and 80 with DC tag for CS, which is part of Engineering and higher tuition and fees. Not jealous of people who can't read:
https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-2025

BACS is 10k less than a BSCS.

So you would pay 30k more per year so your kid could take computer science “light” at UVA? Huge mistake.

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Anonymous wrote:On college confidential, several people mentioned getting into Michigan but not UF. UF is definitely becoming more selective.

UF is known for being quirky with oos admissions, it often doesn’t take the highest stat students.

Regardless the method of selection, OOS acceptance rate appears to be at or below 10% this admissions cycle.

Do you know if UF published that information? I was really curious about getting the information on this cycle's admits.

I'm unaware whether it has already been officially published, but estimates I've been able to work out using the priority admissions data from their Dec. 2023 disclosure suggest that the likelihood that the OOS acceptance count exceeded 2,900 is low. At that point, the acceptance rate would fall below 10%.

Expected would be some ED dropouts from the OOS pool who notified UF that they were no longer to be considered for admission, but I would expect that count to be lower than the non-priority applications received from OOS applicants after 11/1/2023. Everything considered, it looking like the OOS acceptance rate is going to land around that 10% level.

This seems unlikely as last year’s oos acceptance rate was 20 percent. You probably aren’t accounting for the fact that they accept way more students than actually enroll. So if they enroll 2900 oos students, they likely are admitting at least twice that assuming an oos yield of 50 percent, which is probably too generous.

UF had approx. 29,000 OOS priority applicants (i.e., applicants who submitted their application by the Nov. 2023 deadline) when they reported on the admissions cycle in December 2023, and approx. 38,000 in-state applicants at that same time. That jives with their disclosed total of 67,784 applicants at that time.

They accept around 15,000 applicants each year. Check the historical CDS details if you care to nail down the exact number.

Therefore, even if you assume that the ED candidates who were accepted elsewhere (and who then withdrew their UF application) are at the same level of the number of applications that were received after the priority deadline (they aren't even close, but let's say they are to establish a worst case scenario), the acceptance rate would seem to land around 22% this admissions cycle. In reality, the denominator is probably going to land at or above 70,000 this year, resulting in an effective acceptance rate of approx. 21.4% ...

Meanwhile, UF has some flexibility to enroll more than 10% of an incoming class from OOS, but not enough to get that OOS acceptance rate up to 20%. If they did, they would be accepting at least 5,800 OS applicants. And if they convert only 25% of those 5,800 acceptances into admissions, that would translate into 22% OOS enrollment. Maybe they can get away with that, but I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:UF alum here. UVA, no question. UF is a diploma mill. Every UF grad I have worked with in over 20 years lacked basic skills. I would never send my kids there.

LOL! UF grad here. Did your kids get rejected from UF?

UF is and was a very good school even when I went back in the day.

Pick the school where your child feels the most comfortable.

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Anonymous wrote:On college confidential, several people mentioned getting into Michigan but not UF. UF is definitely becoming more selective.

UF is known for being quirky with oos admissions, it often doesn’t take the highest stat students.

Regardless the method of selection, OOS acceptance rate appears to be at or below 10% this admissions cycle.

Do you know if UF published that information? I was really curious about getting the information on this cycle's admits.

I'm unaware whether it has already been officially published, but estimates I've been able to work out using the priority admissions data from their Dec. 2023 disclosure suggest that the likelihood that the OOS acceptance count exceeded 2,900 is low. At that point, the acceptance rate would fall below 10%.

Expected would be some ED dropouts from the OOS pool who notified UF that they were no longer to be considered for admission, but I would expect that count to be lower than the non-priority applications received from OOS applicants after 11/1/2023. Everything considered, it looking like the OOS acceptance rate is going to land around that 10% level.

This seems unlikely as last year’s oos acceptance rate was 20 percent. You probably aren’t accounting for the fact that they accept way more students than actually enroll. So if they enroll 2900 oos students, they likely are admitting at least twice that assuming an oos yield of 50 percent, which is probably too generous.

UF had approx. 29,000 OOS priority applicants (i.e., applicants who submitted their application by the Nov. 2023 deadline) when they reported on the admissions cycle in December 2023, and approx. 38,000 in-state applicants at that same time. That jives with their disclosed total of 67,784 applicants at that time.

They accept around 15,000 applicants each year. Check the historical CDS details if you care to nail down the exact number.

Therefore, even if you assume that the ED candidates who were accepted elsewhere (and who then withdrew their UF application) are at the same level of the number of applications that were received after the priority deadline (they aren't even close, but let's say they are to establish a worst case scenario), the acceptance rate would seem to land around 22% this admissions cycle. In reality, the denominator is probably going to land at or above 70,000 this year, resulting in an effective acceptance rate of approx. 21.4% ...

Meanwhile, UF has some flexibility to enroll more than 10% of an incoming class from OOS, but not enough to get that OOS acceptance rate up to 20%. If they did, they would be accepting at least 5,800 OS applicants. And if they convert only 25% of those 5,800 acceptances into admissions, that would translate into 22% OOS enrollment. Maybe they can get away with that, but I doubt it.

I think they had about 22% OOS enrollment for this years freshman class