JHU - 18% white in class of 2027

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Anonymous wrote:For the people in the back, not all Hispanic/Latino people have indigenous features. We come in many “shades”. Walking around campus and not seeing many “stereotypical” Latino students, does not mean there really aren’t a lot of them there.

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So Elon musk must be African American then

That is because he is. He is of African decent and is now an American.

Whether he identifies as black, is another matter.

You are familiar with the origins of the white people in sub-saharan Africa - they're colonizers, sorry if that's the first time you're hearing that. Nah. I'm not.

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Anonymous wrote:So many racists on this board. I wonder how many of you would publicly express these views?

None. They all sit their seething in their DEI sessions. However, the marginalized folks still know who most of you are - hopefully you know that.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are lying about their racial/ethnic background or if this is because of people who don’t “look” their race (white Latinos, etc.), why aren’t we seeing similar demographics at other top schools? Harvard and Yale are closer to 40% white. Much lower % of Blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans than Hopkins. Seems strange that people would only lie to get into Hopkins!

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We would all need real data in larger quantities than publicly available to analyze this intelligently.

As a thought experiment, one might wonder if those biracial kids who believe that emphasizing one side of their heritage would help with admission, would check the box for their non-white family origin.

In my Gen X professional grad school educated circles, there are many families of mixed heritage. All high-attaining families but from grad schools that are not quite HYPSM level. One level down in school ranking if you are the kind of person that thinks that matters a lot.

It seems very reasonable to me that children from these kinds of families would both target and be accepted at schools like JHU.

And this could occur without diluting applicant or student quality.

For your assertion to hold, it would then have to be true that jhu uniquely receives and accepts more bi-racial kids who are academically strong vs other t20s

That something at jhu makes it specifically more attractive to biracial kids than its peers

Also, are you asserting t35 grad school alums ex-hypsm have a greater probability of being in an interracial relationship than t10 grad school alums ?

I do not have the data to have a factual, mathematical argument with you but if you will go on a thought experiment with me....

Biracial marriages are known to be increasing. Educated people marry people they go to school with. So, the less integrated or slower to integrate schools would probably have fewer biracial legacy couples. If you want to review the history of race distribution at the Ivies, I'm sure you can dig it up. Some of them didn't admit women until after I was born.

Also, from my recent review of the current numbers...state flagships and non-Ivys are usually quite large in terms of student bodies compared to the Ivy Leagues.

When you think of all the various educated student diasporas - India, Pakistan, China, Korea, Nigeria, Venezuela, and Brazil come to mind - particularly for grad school - they are interested in any good US school where they can get in. Because it's often quite difficult to get in as an international grad student.

Do you not see how logical it is that there could be many more biracial couples who attended these larger schools of which there are a good many? Plus then assortative mating of grads from different schools?

Next thing is good public schools. One point of good public schools is to give people who have socioeconomic disadvantages an equal chance to master the K-12 curriculum and compete for college. Doesn't the DMV have many of the U.S.'s top districts?

OK, now on to whether there's something about the JHU applicant pool that is special.

I would posit it's partly due to geography. If you live in the DMV and are on this board, you know what your larger multistate local community is like. Educated, affluent, multicultural, yes biracial, extremely affluent minorities of all backgrounds. Huge numbers of potential applicants. Don't most kids apply to local safeties/targets? Add in the school's strengths in higher-paying, quant careers and I can see a lot of interest coming from all quarters.

I will admit some people might be lying. Shame on them.

If you want to educate yourself, you can review the history of how the Ivy Leagues treated Jewish students. I have lived in four different geographies and the one with the highest percentage of Jewish people was in Maryland. I greatly enjoyed living there and being a neighbor broadened my horizons and appreciation for their concerns. If you told me that JHU was disproportionately admitting Jewish students then I would also not be surprised and I would not be upset and complain and look for reasons why Christians were discriminated against.

As a mother of a white boy, I read now that boys are getting a bit of a bump because there's a wish not to let schools get too female. Not sure if that's really true but if so, that would be a shame.

Bottom line, society is constantly changing the rules. If the rules aren't breaking in your favor, then you just have to work harder. And picking on people and making them feel unwelcome for their personal characteristics after they've been selected by a process they did not design is rude and harmful. There is a lot of evidence that suggests people of all types do better in school when welcomed, accepted, and treated with the expectation that they will succeed.

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Your post makes total sense and I agree with almost all of it

I still don’t see how that can skew jhu with such magnitude vs Cornell, Columbia, Carnegie Mellon, etc

Tristate is just as if not more diverse than dmv

Occam’s razor suggests jhu has a lot of applicants and students telling fibs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Believe me I no longer become a patient of URMs. I know how they got in to their "top schools." I'm not taking a chance.

You must have not been to a hospital in the last 20 years. Hopkins medical staff is diverse and outstanding. You think only white=smart=capable. That's your mistake and will hopefully it kill you.

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Anonymous wrote:I graduated a few years ago. My name is actually Italian but a lot of people think it is Hispanic. I checked Hispanic on the application. No one ever "investigated" me.

So you lied to get a perceived advantage because you weren't confident of your own record and ability to make a strong case for your fit to major?

So how were your JHU grades?

I hope you're not my doctor or personal wealth advisor or not even real at all (under-bridge-dweller).

But you're ok with a personal wealth adviser who did need to play the card because otherwise they wouldn't have had a shot? What's the difference? It's not a perceived advantage if it works.

My point is that if you are real and actually checked a box as a lie then you would be a thin-skinned, sleazy person who only looks out for himself. I wouldn't trust you not to churn my portfolio or steal from me as an investment advisor. And I would question whether you would overrecommend procedures and bill fairly as a doctor. If you are real, I've met people like you and I don't want you handling my business. I'll take it to someone ethical and trustworthy who outcompeted you without compromising. Risk factors in even without emotions. Liars are high-risk people to be around. That's why society judges them harshly when exposed.

This poster doth protest too much. Probably a recipient of extra points and financial aid due to skin color. Now everyone questions as to why she/he got into school at all. Maybe questions her kids, too.

Actually all white at this HH, thanks for your concern. Biracial family members (Asian) who married in. Concerned about the hate and questioning I see directed at my extended family, the younger generation of which has not reached college app age yet and are not URM. My sister has had ethnic slurs directed at her just for being brunette when she's actually white.

What are you doing to make America a better place?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the people in the back, not all Hispanic/Latino people have indigenous features. We come in many “shades”. Walking around campus and not seeing many “stereotypical” Latino students, does not mean there really aren’t a lot of them there.

ah

So Elon musk must be African American then

That is because he is. He is of African decent and is now an American.

Whether he identifies as black, is another matter.

You are familiar with the origins of the white people in sub-saharan Africa - they're colonizers, sorry if that's the first time you're hearing that. Nah. I'm not.

Are you familiar with the origins of the white people in the Americas? They are colonizers. Should they be called Americans?

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Anonymous wrote:The largest demographic group at JHU is Asian... why are is OP emphasizing hispanic and rather than what is actually the largest demographic group?

Because it usually asks for race. You check off Caucasian. Then it asks Hispanic
or Non Hispanic. There’s probably a large portion of caucasians who are claiming Hispanic.

It’s a lot easier to cheat by clicking Caucasian Hispanic than Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:My white kid did not lie. Honest kid. Not even an illusion he’s anything other than Wonder bread, but I have read that stats on how many applicants lie and it’s eye-opening. Well- at least if he ever runs for office he’s not going to have dirt like Warren.

Oh, is that right? You must be so proud. So proud in fact, that you would have no problem identifying yourself or your kid. Right?

Didn’t think so.

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/johns-hopkins-newsletter-said-english-215920000.html

Too bad he had to retract the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doctors coming from India, don't do undergrad, they go to medical school after 12th grade, do 5 year MBBS, pass USMLE and then apply here to do residency, take boards and start practicing. They seem to make fine physicians.

Some of the Drs from India seem to forget we don’t have a caste system here. In America we will question a doctor’s competence. You are not some god.

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Anonymous wrote:The largest demographic group at JHU is Asian... why are is OP emphasizing hispanic and rather than what is actually the largest demographic group?

Because whites and Asians like to make brown and black people the boogie-man!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the people in the back, not all Hispanic/Latino people have indigenous features. We come in many “shades”. Walking around campus and not seeing many “stereotypical” Latino students, does not mean there really aren’t a lot of them there.

ah

So Elon musk must be African American then

That is because he is. He is of African decent and is now an American.

Whether he identifies as black, is another matter.

He is a colonizer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many racists on this board. I wonder how many of you would publicly express these views?

None. They all sit their seething in their DEI sessions. However, the marginalized folks still know who most of you are - hopefully you know that.

The jig is up. The DEI sessions are already a thing of the past. Do you know that? Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:With their academic rigor, they need admissions to be merit based. What percentage are Asians? That should be the litmus test.

Why don't you actually take a look at the link and see?

Everyone who has decried affirmative action in college admissions, saying it discriminated against Asian students-- here ya go! JHU is a school where the largest group of students admitted for the class of 2027 is Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:Believe me I no longer become a patient of URMs. I know how they got in to their "top schools." I'm not taking a chance.

I'm sure they're grateful.